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Published: Monday, June 16 2014 10:55 p.m. MDT

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Silvex
Salt Lake, UT

What a bunch of hypocrites. Any self-respecting, earth-loving, tree-hugging, hippy with an ounce of honesty would never drive an internal-combustion engine vehicle hundreds of miles to participate in such a trivial, self-indulgent activity (especially older vans and buses built on 1970s emission's technology). Do they really believe in anthropogenic global warming or not? Are they not concerned about thousands of people trampling all over the forests crypto-biotic crust? Do they not care about destroying thousands of native plants and grasses? Are they totally callous to the disruption to the natural migration and mating patterns of native fauna that the presence of thousands of dope-smoking, drum-beating, outdoor-defecating, hippies will have? These people lecture us about how we are destroying the environment, but seem to be some of the worst offenders. Obviously a case of do as I say, not as I do.

Dennis
Harwich, MA

How could this be any different than the average "Father & Son" outing. Seriously. You don't see police show up to ticket littering, noise, old men dying during a rough game of horse shoes, etc. etc. What a bunch of worry warts Wasatch County has become.

FT
salt lake city, UT

My family warned me of the Mormon church when I moved to Utah 30 years ago. Criminal statistics the police provided to promote fear about rainbow hippies seems as ridiculous as my families unfounded concerns years ago. I fear netheir hippies nor mormons and we should welcome both and encourage them to co-exist in our mountains this Summer.

Philippine Bonita
Sammamish, WA

@Jo1952 Thanks for the heads up on finding the page outlining the origins and philosophies of this group in their own words. Eeek! I feel sorry for the local law enforcement and residnets.

hexrain
folkston, GA

I seem to recall another group in history that traveled around the country trying to find a place to practice their beliefs, and were persecuted wherever they went. They tried to settle in many states and the local population kept kicking them out because they had strange religious practices that protestants didn't agree with. They even took many partners at once!

First one to guess who I am referring to gets a cookie!

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@nanax8,
Re: "trying to find out what it is that the LDS church was warning their people of"...

Google it and do some research on the problems in the past.

Hint... There's been rapes, deaths, rampant drug abuse is expected (by everyone involved). That may be part of what the LDS church has been warned about.

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In past camps the size of the group quickly overwhelms National Forest Service facilities and ecological damage to vegetation trampled in the area that takes years to recover (if it ever recovers).

The Forest Service has had to bury their mini onsite garbage dumps after they leave (they don't believe in sanitary facilities). The human waste left behind is disgusting (they don't use existing facilities.. just go wherever you want.

The hippie aspect is fine. The crime aspect, the sanitation, and the ecological damage they traditionally do to the area... not so good.

They also have a tradition of going into nearby towns and harassing the people with aggressive panhandling to get food for the camp, shoplifting, and overwhelming local hospitals and leaving the bills unpaid.

There's plenty to be warned about...

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@Dennis
Re: "How could this be any different than the average "Father & Son" outing. Seriously"....

Seriously... you see no difference??

Maybe the drug abuse (which is expected, not just for some, but for all attending the outing). Do they do that at the average father & son outing in your area of Harwich, MA... they don't at the father & son outings out here.

The rapes, murders, Overdose deaths, assaults, shoplifting associated with this group... not so much with the average father & son outing.

I think you are WAY off base with your saying it's just like the average father & son outing.... they obviously are WAY different. The size of the groups are also not similar (when was the last time you saw 20,000 people at a father & son outing)???

The noise is about the only way they are even remotely similar.

"How could this be any different than the average "Father & Son" outing"... you seriously see no difference???

Pac 12 Fever
Salt Lake City, UT

@FT

Yea- I bet you will be the first up there to clean up all the human waste and Other problems.

Easy to approve from behind your computer 100 miles away and it doesn't affect you. Think of them in your yard puffing away- naked- dropping thier waste everywhere and not paying any tickets or fines. Bet you would welcome that! Not!

Harrison Bergeron
Holladay , UT

Silvex:

"Any self-respecting, earth-loving, tree-hugging, hippy with an ounce of honesty would never drive an internal-combustion engine vehicle hundreds of miles to participate in such a trivial, self-indulgent activity..."

"...These people lecture us about how we are destroying the environment, but seem to be some of the worst offenders."

So true.

Socal Coug
San Diego, CA

20,000 people...is there security? Do they have rules for this 'gathering'? A group of people together, whether it's General Conference or a Metallica concert, they'll have security. Otherwise there's bound to be chaos.

CMO Beaver
Beaver, UT

come to the Filmore Beaver area all you hippie folks, you will love it, especially our DQ.. best in Utah!

AlanGee
North Salt Lake, UT

I am not a hippie. I live in Utah, active LDS, RM, etc and I went to "The Gathering" so let me tell you about it.

I was embarrassed by the way the police treated them. They're about 42 miles (90 minutes) East of Heber. They're not trolling the parks of Heber!

I saw about 20 police officers. They were frisking people, citing people for not having a dog on a leash (in BFE National Forrest), having a license plate light out, searching cars, etc. Either the cops are trying to cash flow this event like champs via citations or it's wholesale overreach by the police. The people didn't want the cops there. If you believe the other reports, the hippies were such a problem in town that the police should have been there...but they weren't They were 90 minutes outside of town in the middle of nowhere.

It's a hippie gathering so of course there is going to be drug use. So listing the arrests doesn't accurately reflect on what is really going on. People smoke weed in the woods a lot and the cops never know/care.

Live and let live. Who cares?

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