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Published: Monday, June 16 2014 7:45 p.m. MDT

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VST
Bountiful, UT

If the current owners of the Salt Lake Tribune were “bound” by the Court to adhere to the old agreement, it would result in the financial collapse of the Tribune. If the Tribune owners were hemorrhaging under the new agreement, I am certain they would have said something before now.

This is “much ado about nothing” and the suit should be rejected by the Court.

U-tar
Woodland Hills, UT

They should just join forces and have one paper. They are already both liberal and anti Mormon. Seems they would do well together under any agreement.

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

"According to the lawsuit, the Deseret News was approached by the Tribune's corporate owner about renegotiating the terms of the joint operating agreement between the two newspapers."

Hmmm! The people don't like the fact that the D-News was asked by the Trib to renegotiate the previous agreement and are suing the **D-NEWS??**

Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

What I don't understand is why people who do not own the Tribune want to tell the owner of the Tribune how to run his business, or tell him what he can or can't do with his property. Yeah, I know the "him" is a corporation.

My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

The consensus is to eliminate and competition or duplication of socialist news media that is under the control of federal government in Washington DC which the DN is affiliated with.

The government must not block independent news media or competitive media regardless of financial state. Government involvement in restricting or interfering with our freedom of speech and free press is a constitutional infringement. Free enterprise is independent and unregulated and also unconstitional when it establishes the ability of a monopoly of lies and misinformation and no opposition. I think the threat of monopoly is more serious threat than a marginal profit news paper.

Why a judge is blocking the sale and ownership of the press is not good for Utah or public protections.

Fitz
Murray, UT

The first question the court will have to answer is do these people who have filed the case have standing to do so. I doubt it. The Trib's owners approached the DN and said they wanted out of the printed news, and wanted to change the JOA. It was done by the owners back east, they didn't even tell the local Trib managers until after the deal was signed.

The Trib owners aren't interested in pursuing this lawsuit, the court should toss it, immediately. And the US Justice Department should quickly allow the JOA to stand as requested by the TRib owners.

Aggie238
Logan, UT

I think I'd settle for ONE good paper in Utah. On the Trib side, I have to wade through all the anti-Mormon stuff to get to the news. On the DN side I have to wade through all the Mormon mommy blogs and "Top 50 things you need to know about picking your nose" lists. Heck, even in the DN sports section I have to wade through 17 articles about what Jimmer Fredette had for his morning snack, or what Bronco Mendenhall said at his third cousin's wedding reception before I can find out who won the NBA finals. Fact is, both papers leave a lot to be desired. The Trib has a bit better reporting of actual news, so I prefer that paper out of the two. I don't think it's a good thing to have only the DNews without a challenging voice.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

If this agreement wasn't in place, the Trib would fold quickly. Then Kirby would have to move to the D-News. The Trib is kinda like MSNBC or CNN. No one watches them and no one reads the Trib any more.

USAlover
Salt Lake City, UT

The Trib is simply a rant forum...not a newspaper.

Copacetic
Logan, UT

@ Aggie238:

If you are so disgruntled with SLC newspapers, just stick with our local infamous Herald Journal. Then you can get right to the things you apparently want and will have much less to complain about... which no one enjoys reading, by the way.
No one is forcing you or anyone else to take either paper. It's not a requirement to take one or the other.

With the WWW Internet, there is a vast news world available to everyone beyond just these two newspapers... enough to accommodate anyone's and everyone's tastes in news.

It would be a sad scenario if we get to the point that business owners can't even operate their own businesses as they see fit.

If this group doesn't like the current legal agreement, let them get a group together to buy out the Tribune so they can then make the decisions. Until then, it's the legitimate owner's right to make business decisions as they see fit.

casual observer
Salt Lake City, UT

One party suing the second party because the first party made an agreement that hasn't worked out? Being inept in business is not a reason to bring suit.

Frozen Fractals
Salt Lake City, UT

@U-tar
"They should just join forces and have one paper. They are already both liberal and anti Mormon."

@My2Cents
"The consensus is to eliminate and competition or duplication of socialist news media that is under the control of federal government in Washington DC which the DN is affiliated with. "

I don't even know where to start in responding to either of these comments...

Lagomorph
Salt Lake City, UT

Strider303: "What I don't understand is why people who do not own the Tribune want to tell the owner of the Tribune how to run his business, or tell him what he can or can't do with his property."

And yet that is exactly the situation under the JOA. Refer to article 10 of the JOA, which reads: "It is therefore agreed that the present ownership of [Tribune] shall not be changed without written consent of [DesNews], which shall not be unreasonably withheld; provided, however, that [DesNews] shall have the unrestricted discretionary right to withhold its consent..."

The JOA gives "people who do not own the Tribune" (i.e. the DesNews) the unrestricted right to "tell him what he can or can't do with his property."

Copacetic: "If this group doesn't like the current legal agreement, let them get a group together to buy out the Tribune so they can then make the decisions."

Any purchase by any group is subject to veto by the DesNews. See the JOA language quoted above.

Aggie238
Logan, UT

Whoa there, Copacetic!

Nobody said I approved of either the lawsuit or the JOA for that matter. I just think it would be a bad thing to lose a dissenting voice in the community from the whitewashed spin you get from the Deseret News. And yes, I do read the Herald Journal as well, such as it is. I also read the Guardian, the Washington Post and articles from other miscellaneous outlets. Both the Trib and the DN are better sources for state and sometimes local news than either the HJ or national news outlets, but there's no harm in wishing they were better.

Amazing
In Utah, UT

It states that the Tribune was profitable prior to the implementation of the new agreement on Jan. 1, but that it is now "hemorrhaging and is no longer self-sustaining."

Well, that isn't true according to the SL Tribune. Before the JOA was ever even discussed the SL Trib had laid off 20% of its staff on September 12, 2013. They had laid off other employees earlier that year, and had done so for a few years before that.

Simply put, their troubles began long before the JOA was renegotiated.

Dutchman
Murray, UT

Let's see if I understand the logic. If the current owners of the Tribune, some hedge fund operators in New York City, decided to just walk away from the newspaper and not sell it to anyone thus letting it fold up and go away, a group of former Tribune employees would be asking a federal judge to force the current owners to keep it up and running? It defies logic and is not going to happen. And if the Justice Dept voids the new JOA between the Deseret News and the Tribune I predict that the Deseret News will step out on its own and end its partnership with the Tribune. Newspapers do not have to nor can they be forced to operate under a JOA. I would hate to see the demise of the Tribune but apparently the writing is on the wall.

Utefan60
Salt Lake City, UT

Jut note that the Tribune circulation is far higher than the D News. People are reading the Tribune more than the D-News. I wonder what is going on here other than trying to stifle opposing voices?

Lagomorph
Salt Lake City, UT

The concern by many is that the current out-of-state hedge fund owners have no connection to the community, to the mission of journalism, or to local history. The Trib could be a pallet factory or a stick of butter as far as they are concerned. Like house flippers, they will rip out the old carpet and slap on a coat of cheap paint and sell it off for a quick bit of cash with nary a concern about the quality of the rehab job or how well it fits into the neighborhood. And did we mention that they can only sell the house to someone the next door neighbor approves of? No smokers or same-sex couples need apply.

It's safe to say that without the Trib John Swallow would still be Attorney General and Oktoberfest would only be serving O'Doul's. We would not know about doctored yearbook photos, that Days of '47 turned down Mormons Building Bridges, or how much water the NSA facility is using. Arts fans would likely never see reviews of edgy material at SLAC or PMT (only Hale Center and Desert Star farces) or local reviews of films at SLFS.

Chesh1767
Jacksonville, FL

Just be happy you have/had more than one paper. It's been around 30+ years since we've had more than one newspaper.

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