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Published: Thursday, June 12 2014 11:35 a.m. MDT

Updated: Wednesday, Aug. 13 2014 2:37 p.m. MDT

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Mikhail
ALPINE, UT

This would help explain why Congress - the elected representatives of the people - find it increasingly difficult to legislate. Legislation implies the need for compromise. The more that the ideas are polarized, the less likely compromise. No compromise - no legislation.

Unfortunately, when there is an executive - ready to take advantage of the perceived "gridlock" - so as to increase executive power, the system gets out of balance. Power is increased in the name of "getting something done."

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Several other studies have found that the Republicans have moved far to the right, while Democrats have stayed relatively close to where they were in the 70's. That's the real reason for the growing gap in partisanship.

Ajax
Mapleton, UT

I cannot help but think that an important part of the problem are the outrageously lame claims and solutions of the politically far-right on key issues such as guns, immigration, etc., which only serve to further alienate reasonable folk and heighten the divide.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

There was a time when most democrats wouldn't support same sex marriage, abortion, out of control spending, leaving Iraqis to be killed by terrorists, allow Iran to get the bomb, allow North Korea to get the bomb, call out officers for being racists with no facts, allow ambassadors to get slaughtered, limited government etc.

Now I have seen a majority of them go the way of the radicals in their group. Then turn around and use their perceived power to persecute anyone who opposes them, believes in God, believes in traditional families etc.

Either way, Osama bin laden could claim victory for dividing this country. Since the attack we have borrowed 8-9 Trillion Dollars, lost thousands of soldiers, lost our freedoms, and are close to collapse. Now the same thought process of adding 30 million people to the healthcare system to bring down costs, is being used with illegals. If we just add 30 million illegals to this country then we'll be more prosperous. What?

Why don't democrats understand economics? Simple supply and demand?

The fact is we have the dumbest leadership that is stealing our money and a voting base too stupid to stop it.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

In the interest of fair and balanced comments...

Another view...

Republican oligarchs and plutocrats will continue to siphon off every penny destroying the middle class while Republicans who are too stupid to realize what's happening continue to let it happen.

Why don't republicans understand history?

The years leading up to the great depression are being repeated...with the full blessing of the Republican Political Machine as well as those people who choose to sustain it.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Newspapers like this one, certainly doesn't help us to become less partisan. Look at the letters published, editorials written, and even the photos used.

Democrats: can do no good
Repubs: can do no wrong

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

"There you go again" Bad news: there are at least as many DEMOCRAT plutocrats and oligarchs as there are Republican ones.

Or are "democrat" plutocrats somehow better than Republican ones?

What has Obama done to improve the lives of "middle-class" Americans?

BOTH parties rely on the "middle-class" to pay the bills. The "rich" just don't want to(and nobody seems to be able to make them) and the "poor" can't.
That leaves the rest of us!

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

@There You Go Again
Saint George, UT
In the interest of fair and balanced comments...

Another view...

Republican oligarchs and plutocrats will continue to siphon off every penny destroying the middle class while Republicans who are too stupid to realize what's happening continue to let it happen.

Why don't republicans understand history?

The years leading up to the great depression are being repeated...with the full blessing of the Republican Political Machine as well as those people who choose to sustain it.

1:08 p.m. June 12, 2014

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Great comment --
Agreed.

Cut and Paste.

Thanks!

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

"Americans are increasingly more ideologically consistent since 1994 and, therefore, more partisan . . ."

Well Yes and NO.

Right Wingers (aka "Conservatives") are increasingly more ideological.

Liberals and everyone else, responding to that Right Wing Extremism, are increasingly more realistic.

Dave M
Louisville, KY

Somehow I did not need a study to tell me things have gotten more partisan.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The nomenclature of Democrat, Republican, Right, Left, Liberal or Conservative are simply smokescreen names the politicians use to disguise the real division of people. The actual division of people, with a few million exceptions, are best defined as Business versus workers. In some countries the words were Lord and Commons.

As the business sector consolidates their hold over our government and the workers are put down, the division of people will increase. Then we will have a revolution and the whole process will start over.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

"There was a time when most democrats wouldn't support same sex marriage, abortion, out of control spending, leaving Iraqis to be killed by terrorists, allow Iran to get the bomb, allow North Korea to get the bomb, call out officers for being racists with no facts, allow ambassadors to get slaughtered, limited government etc."

Oh my sir, these thoughts are really something. Roe v Wade was passed in 1973 with both Republicans and Democrats. Democrats now simply are still in support of the law.

Same Sex Marriage wasn't even a possibility until a few years ago.

Regan tripled the budget, Clinton, increased the deficit, and Bush more than doubled it. So everyone participated and it's simply a value judgment on your part that it's "out of control". Not really so.

Iran has not acquired a bomb under Obama, but North Korea got their bomb under GWB.

13 embassy attacks under GWB with 52 dead including one embassy employee.

You just keep thinking though Butch, some day you'll stumble on the truth.

nicholdraper
West Jordan, UT

Thank you pragmatistferlife for the good chuckle this morning. You wrote "Roe v Wade was passed in 1973 with both Republicans and Democrats." That is the typical liberal, comment, they don't even know the difference between a court decision and a legislative act. I worked with a young liberal who was hopping mad when Obama ended the Bush tax cuts and his take home decreased by $300 a month. He said that he voted for Obama because he believed that Romney would raise taxes. Being older I don't know if the divide has gotten wider. It seemed very wide in the 70's during the Vietnam war. But the intelligence of the arguments hasn't improved.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey Nicholdraper –

While you’re chuckling at Pragmatistforlife, save a couple of chuckles for yourself.

Obama did not “end the Bush tax cuts.” They expired.

In fact, it was the Democrats in Congress who wanted to extend those cuts for the Middle Class but Republicans voted them down.“Congressional Democrats offered two attempts to extend the Bush-era rates for ‘middle income’ families but restore the previous, higher rates for ‘high income’ people.” - Wikipedia

How typical of Conservatives to make wild and FALSE claims.

I agree with your assertion that "The intelligence of the arguments has not improved" over the last 30 years.

. . . Especially on the "Conservative" side.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@nicholdraper: The Bush tax cuts only ended for people making over $400,000 a year, for anyone making less, they remained the same. I'm rather certain that that had no effect on your young co-worker. So you are correct. The intelligence of the debate has not improved.

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

That is what the parties want. They want us believing every word that falls out of their mouth. They love it, the more partisan the better.

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