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Published: Thursday, June 12 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Shaun
Sandy, UT

Apparently this writer has insider information that apparently reveals that the President apparently ordered a stand down.

Apparently I missed this apparent news on Fox news. My apparent trusted news source of course.

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

There was no "stand down" order given. That only happened on Fox News, not in the real world.

embarrassed Utahn!
Salt Lake City, UT

"We are a WARLIKE PEOPLE...easily distracted from our assignment of preparing for the coming of the Lord. When enemies rise up, we commit vast resources to the fabrication of gods of stone and steel — ships, planes, missiles, fortifications — and depend on them for protection and deliverance. When threatened, we become anti-enemy instead of pro-kingdom of God; we train a man in the art of war and call him a patriot, thus, in the manner of Satan's counterfeit of true patriotism, perverting the Savior's teaching [to love your enemies]."

—LDS Church President Spencer W. Kimball

Utahns overwhelmingly voted twice for Bush/Cheney.

That is the disgrace!

My President is doing just fine...actually, he's doing a fantastic job despite what the armchair critics say.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Oh my...

Another "Benghazi" letter.

First it's was the birth certificate - and that didn't stick..
Then Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
Next Solandryn,
and now Benghazi.

Keep flinging mud until something sticks...

You daily entertainers [Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck] have made themselves Millionaires doing it.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

I guess the problem here is this is based on a fictional recounting of what happened in Libya, versus what the record says really happened. So sure, make up a version of history, and it can say anything you want. I think what is a shame is the need to stretch history to justify hate.

Lets be really clear.... there were no US soldiers on the ground in Libya ready to assist, but were told not to. None. We had US embassy security, but suggesting they should left their post to secure a CIA compound in a distant and not controlled city is a foolish notion. Tripoli is over 1,000 kilometers away, The nearest combat troops were more than 400 miles away in Italy.

I find it odd how we mourn the loss of two US CIA contractors, and yet just yesterday 5 military people die in a friendly fire incident... and that is not top of mind. Surely its not just because of political value is it?

ECR
Burke, VA

Great example of a straw man argument. Make a statement about someone and assume it's true, then attack that person based on that assumption.

Here's the problem. A report by Republicans on the Armed Services Committee recently declared: "There was no 'stand down' order issued to US military personnel in Tripoli who sought to join the fight in Benghazi." A bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report released in January said: "The Committee has reviewed the allegations that US personnel, including in the IC (Intelligence Community) or DOD, prevented the mounting of any military relief effort during the attacks, but the Committee has not found any of these allegations to be substantiated."

I realize that any amount of evidence or testimony by those who know the truth will never be enough to change someone's mind who is focused on criticizing the president. But it would be nice if we could all base our arguments, tirades or hatred on truth, rather than folly.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Obama "apparently" did this and that? It's clear from the umpteen investigations into Benghazi that Obama "actually" did not do what this writer says he "apparently" did. More artificial facts from the AM radio brains...

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

You know you think the DN would be a little concerned about printing letters where the opinions expressed are so well known to be false.

But apparently not. Sad!

FT
salt lake city, UT

I heard this on talk radio and saw it on Fox News. I now read it in the DNews as well. That must make it so. Is it a scandal if a small group of people continue to repeat the same allegations over and over with no basis in fact?

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

We really need to stop publishing these nonsensical letters and giving these rantings attention.

Seriously, ignore the static and move on. Let these people rant with tin foil hats on until the cows come come. Pay no attention to them. Turn the page and let's move on

SharpHooks
Sandy, UT

Doesn't this letter get published once a week?

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

I did not know that the President of the United States had such omnipotent powers through the World.

I also did not know that this letter writer had such omnipotent all-seeing , all-knowing powers either...

The rest of "mortals" here on this Earth must seem like bateria to them.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Excuses offered by the left for BO's failures is so very hypocritical! They demand so much from GWB and make excuses for BO!

FreedomFighter41
Provo, UT

The letter writer wrote:

"This president has shown weakness in directing our military men and women."

Who directed our military to the capture and killing of the world's #1 criminal, Osama Bin Laden? Apparently the letter writer doesn't know what the definition of weakness is.

"I heard this on talk radio and saw it on Fox News. I now read it in the DNews as well."

Wasn't it said, "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."? I think fox hopes that if they repeat a lie so many times eventually people will believe it. Examples may include how tax increases in the rich hurt job creation, min wage increases will cost jobs, global warming is a hoax, and that the President ordered a stand down.

"Doesn't this letter get published once a week?"

Yes. Shameful, isn't it? And then we wonder why civil dialog in this state is so poor? Why so many are lashing out at Utah establishments? It really has become silly, our one party theocracy where 1 party can do no right and the other can do no wrong.

Esquire
Springville, UT

Great piece of fiction. That's all I can say. Geez.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Read the article in the Deseret News, May 6, 2014, "Rep. Jason Chaffetz accuses White House of hiding Benghazi documents", then check on Jay Carney, Susan Rice and Hillary Clinton.

The Administration "fired" Jay Carney, the press secretary who fed the press what the President wanted us to "know".

Susan Rice was fired from her job as United States Ambassador to the U.N.

Hillary Clinton was fired from her job as Secretary of State.

Three high ranking officials were thrown under the bus because of Benghazi. Documents that would show exactly what happened have been labled "top secret" and will be sealed for about 25 years.

Meanwhile, the families of those four brave men killed in the attack wait for answers. It looks like they'll wait for a while longer. So much for the "most transparent" administration in U.S. history.

Darrel
Eagle Mountain, UT

@Mike Richards

The Administration "fired" Jay Carney, the press secretary who fed the press what the President wanted us to "know".

Susan Rice was fired from her job as United States Ambassador to the U.N.

Hillary Clinton was fired from her job as Secretary of State

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Jay Carney resigned...approached the President, not the other way around. Press Secretary is a very demanding job. Sounds like he wants to spend more time with his family.

Susan Rice was not fired. In fact, she was given a job as National Security Advisor. Sounds like someone "failed up"

Hillary Clinton was not fired. She too resigned. Most cabinet members only serve one term; Colin Powell, Condolezza Rice. What she did was not out of the ordinary at all. And certainly if she were fired, she would not be considered the Democratic frontrunner for 2016 Presidential campaign, and the current favorite to win the Presidency.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

"Three high ranking officials were thrown under the bus because of Benghazi. Documents that would show exactly what happened have been labled "top secret" and will be sealed for about 25 years."

Seriously Mike Richards, where do you dig this stuff up? Not even the best fantasy authors are so creative!

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

@MR-Thou shall not bare false witness against thy neighbor.

...and yet with full knowledge of the facts you still continue daily to spread rumors and falsehoods as truth.

Some do it in ignorance, some do it because they can.

This letter writer continues, along with this newspaper, to try and perpetuate these lies by rapidly repeating them and hoping no one will look up the truth.

Ralph West Jordan
Taylorsville, UT

Re: Mike Richards

Although I have disagreed with many of your opinions, I always respected them and gave them credit as possibly credible because you seemed so and adamant while expressing them

But the "Jay Carney, Susan Rice and Hillary Clinton Firing" statements now give me cause to seriously question your credibility! Please tell us you really don't think these individuals were actually fired, thus restoring our confidence in your ability to sort AM Radio rhetoric from fact!

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