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Published: Wednesday, June 11 2014 1:20 p.m. MDT

Updated: Thursday, June 12 2014 2:19 p.m. MDT

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

From ESPN today:

"BYU coach Bronco Mendenhall wants in the Big 12, but two league athletic directors told ESPN there have been "zero discussions" about the conference expanding"

"Luck added that there are no "available teams" -- schools from the non-Power Five leagues -- that would add value to the Big 12's per-school revenue"

The power 5 conferences are moving on, without mid majors like byu, usu, and Wyoming.

Mikeylikesit
Davis, UT

Can we please not do the list thing anymore, it takes 10 times the time to read the article/ get the information. Which is the point right?

Johnny Triumph
American Fork, UT

Amusing that Bronco only says BYU would love to be in the Big12 and now it's blown up all over again, even on espn's website today.

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

I love how at the end of each section the author inserts "myth busted" or "myth plausible" according to his own speculation.

Is it plausible that BYU joins the AAC? Sure, but it's also plausible they join the PAC12, Big 12, MWC, stay independent, etc. We won't really have any clue what will happen until another round of conference realignment is a reality. Until then BYU is making the most out of being independent and trying to position themselves as an attractive addition to the BIG 12.

Ken
Sandy, UT

The only people in the nation who think byu deserves or will ever get a seat at the big boy table are byu fans. No one else is talking about byu. I'd hate to be in their position right now, but we're not!

Ken
Sandy, UT

@Wiscougar,

"plausible they join the pac12" No. We will never invite you

Lifelong Ute
Salt Lake City, UT

Part of me wants byu to be invited to the Big 12, just to watch them struggle worse than Utah is struggling in an even better conference(Pac 12), but more of me enjoys watching byu's coach have to beg publicly for an invite, only to watch the Big 12 turn their nose up to byu.

Its delicious! I hope no conference ever invites byu, and its looking almost certain that's the case!

utesgoingdownthehill
Salt Lake City , UT

Best part of reading BYU article is comments from Utah fans. They claim no one is talking about BYU while posting 100+ comments in every BYU article. Oh irony!

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

From ESPN today:

"Luck added that there are no "available teams" -- schools from the non-Power Five leagues -- that would add value to the Big 12's per-school revenue"

LOL!

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@utesonthehill looking down at byu,

We do enjoy mocking your football program that no one wants to invite. We do enjoy beating you year after year after year, even though you aren't our rival. We know we are your rival so its fun to smash your dreams of beating your rival in your "Super Bowl" every year

LOL

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

Lifelong Ute

I hate to admit it; but I feel the same way. The BYU fans on these boards, not all mind you, that come across as overly sensitive and pompous have pretty much sealed the deal for me. Also, no one is going to invite a school that comes in demanding TV rights and dictating what days they will, and will not play on. The Big 12 has basically confirmed that.

Jim1027
St. George, UT

Sour grapes?

Do Utah fans google every mention of BYU just so they can be the first to post their negative remarks?

Perhaps they should finish in the top half of their conference, at least once, before disrespecting other teams?

Maybe they should ask themselves how long their present football coach will have a job before ripping Bronco?

I'm just wondering!

thebigsamoan
Richmond, VA

It's very possible that BYU may never be invited to join any of the 5 so called power conferences but if it ever happen, it'll be so delicious, if for no other reason than to see the haters squirmed and gagged in their nauseous hate and venom against everything BYU!

Frankly, I don't give a hoot if they ever got invited. I'm quite content with them staying independent and play to win no matter what schedule they play.

Go Cougars!

Who am I sir?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

(last comment to previous post)

"The best thing that BYU can do to help its cause is to win games. While an 8-5 season certainly isn't bad, the Cougars need to assert that they are a team that can't be ignored. BYU hasn't finished ranked in the AP Top 25 since it went independent, and that has to change this year."

Total agreement. Who knew the U was working to get into the PAC-12 for some 10 (?) years? Was there any public pleading - no. Any discussions were "behind the scenes". That is where most serious issues are discussed/resolved. There is a natural reaction against seeking outside pressures. I've said it before, and it applies here, Utah made its case of being difficult to avoid. Highest winning bowl percentage of teams with more than 5 bowls. Most wins by a "non-bcs" team over bcs teams. Beating Alabama(!) in the Sugar Bowl. Two undefeated seasons in the past 10 years. This is how Utah earned an invitation to the PAC-12 conference. (Not to forget its status as a highly ranked research university!)

utesgoingdownthehill
Salt Lake City , UT

@ChrisB just the fact that you enjoy mocking BYU more than having a good football team makes me want BYU to stay mid major all my life so I don't need to resort mocking another football team to make myself better. That's so elemntry school bro.cheers!

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

"Luck added that there are no "available teams" -- schools from the non-Power Five leagues -- that would add value to the Big 12's per-school revenue"

That's going to hurt some egos.

Who am I sir?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Another comment, from a Utah fan’s perspective, what Utah did to earn the invitation to the PAC-12:

Many Y fans express the opinion Utah was invited only when the other 5 schools rejected an offer. Utah was not a "first choice". Absolutely correct - but not quite as they imagine. Colorado was in... it was the PAC-11. Five offers were made but not to the PAC-12's top choices (IMO). Probable top choices - Texas, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Florida (or Michigan ...) But that wasn't going to happen!

Similarly, the five offered were not going to happen. Texas A & M was not going to accept the PAC-12. Why? Someone much more knowledgeable than I about Texas A & M would have to say. But they wanted SEC ( got it) or get away from Texas or...

As Commissioner Scott said, Utah was always in the PAC-12's plans.
Now Utah's position
1) Accepted (probably) proposed phase in. $0 first year - 4 years for full share
2) Acknowledged Colorado deserved full membership - $5M buy out to Big 12 and bigger TV market
3) Position of working together in any way to earn membership!

Deal closed!

Flip McFetch
Las Vegas, NV

Utah a highly ranked research univ.?
Forbes top 20 (US): No.
The Center for Measuring University Performance (US): Utah #49.
I'm sure that there are other reputable US based rankings that someone else can scour up.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

thebigsamoan:

"...it'll be so delicious, if for no other reason than to see the haters squirmed and gagged in their nauseous hate and venom against everything BYU"

...but until THEN...

...Haha! Midmajors forever!

Aaah! That was "delicious"!

10CC
Bountiful, UT

The backstory on how TCU got into the Big-12 is fascinating.

DeLoss Dodds was the Texas Athletic Director who essentially was the decision maker of final resort for the Big-12. In other words, if Dodds didn't support it, it wouldn't be done, in terms of Big-12 business.

TCU's Athletic Director drove to Austin to meet with Dodds, and waited all day long from 8:00am to 3:30pm to have a word with Dodds, and finally DeLoss came out of his office and invited the TCU AD out for dinner and drinks. Four hours later, and without having discussed any of the actual merits of inviting TCU, the two parted ways after an evening of drinking, and the next day phone calls to the TCU Athletic Director's office started coming in, asking what he had done.

It seems DeLoss Dodds called a Big-12 meeting the morning after socializing with TCU's AD, the Big-12 voted to extend an offer to TCU that day, and that was it. It took less than 24 hours.

DeLoss Dodds is gone now, retired, but what a crazy story about how the Big-12 added TCU.

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