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Published: Wednesday, June 11 2014 10:15 p.m. MDT

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Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT

CG
Orem, UT

you have to go back almost 20 years further to the BYU class of 1973 to find the last BYU class never to have played in a bowl.

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Since you don't get it, I'll educate you.

If Utah still played a watered down mid major schedule like BYU does, we would have our consecutive bowling streak still going and going and going. Adding four or five automatic gimmes every season kinda guarantees you'll go bowling every time. Utah has entirely given that way of life up in order to play with the big boys.

Meanwhile, as Utah tries to climb that ladder, BYU is the 10th grader still playing tee-ball -- and talking like the toughest guy on the block just because he can beat on a group of second graders. If BYU was my team, I'd be embarrassed.

Four losses in a row/9 of last 13

Left out in the cold

No power invite

No national respect

PUBLICLY begging to be in the Big XII(snicker)

PUBLICLY being rebuffed by the Big XII

But by all means, keep up that smack... and make believe that you guys really are better.

LOL!

Rockarolla
West Jordan, UT

How bad do you have to be when you can't beat out Travis Wilson? The Ute QB situation is crowded and I can't blame this kid for leaving. Looks like Wilson is safe for another year! This years Ute team is going to have a hard time winning 2 PAC-12 games. Might be time for Kyle to say so long!

pocyUte
Pocatello, ID

Tomahawk

That was funny.

It kind of reminds one of Cramer dominating the dojo filled with 10 year olds.

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

@Tomahawk red

So I take it that winning isn't important? Utah has NEVER had a winning record playing a top 30 schedule. They only made bowls when they played "easy" schedules like 2004. Utah is in over its head and can't compete.

The league has three tiers. The top tier (Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, Washington) can win the league. The middle tier has two to three ranked teams in it. The dregs are the teams that can't get to bowls. This is the sorry state Utah is in. Sure they are playing the most difficult schedule they have faced. However it isn't the TOP schedule in the league. Cal plays a harder one. So does Washington State. With Southern Utah, Idaho State and Weber State the school guarantees one win a year. They have but one P5 matchup scheduled while the rest of the league has more. Utah most years will play the 8th-12th toughest schedule in the PAC 12

BigCougar
Bountiful, UT

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT
nhatch,

"How does it feel to be incapable of beating a team near the bottom of the Pac 12?"

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Not as bad as it feels being a fan of the team near the bottom of the Pac 12. Lol!

On a serious note, you can't blame a guy for getting tired of losing. I think this is a sign of the culture of losing developing up on the hill. Once ingrained it's hard to break. He's smart to want to break free now before it's too late.

BigCougar
Bountiful, UT

@tomahawk and Steven S Jarvis

"The dregs are the teams that can't get to bowls. This is the sorry state Utah is in. Sure they are playing the most difficult schedule they have faced. However it isn't the TOP schedule in the league. Cal plays a harder one. So does Washington State. With Southern Utah, Idaho State and Weber State the school guarantees one win a year."

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Great point, Wash St managed to win enough games with their tougher schedule to qualify for a bowl game. I guess that means there's an even lower tier than "the Dregs" because Utah can't even keep pace with Wash St.

As for tomahawk's comment about publicly begging to join the Big 12, what's wrong with taking a page from the utah playbook? Utah's public begging paid off. When the Pac12's attempt to de-stabilize the Big 12 and lure Texas, etc away by inviting Colorado got stiff-armed by Texas and the rest of the Big12, the Pac12 was stuck with Colorado and was desperate to find a 2nd school who would say yes.

BigCougar
Bountiful, UT

Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT
Not surprised. Nor do I care.

"Thomas hasn't contributed a thing since arriving here. All I've seen from him is a Twitter claim that he was going to be the best QB the Pac 12 has ever seen."

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I think you confused him with Kyle Whittingham maybe? Wasn't it Kyle who boasted to the media that his QB group was in the upper echelon of the Pac12? Sounds like Micah was just parroting what he was being told by his Head Coach.

You've heard the old saying, "the Speed of the Leader determines the rate of the pack"? Sounds like the nut doesn't fall far from the tree.

Darren Rowe
Heber City, UT

I love how ute fans are still giving the excuse that they are new to the Pac-12 to explain why they suck.

Will utah have their years of success? Of course they will. Duke just went to a bowl game. Kansas was a top 10 team in 2007.

But over the long haul, utah comes nowhere near the rest of the Pac-12.

You've been a member for 3 years now. Face it. You are at the bottom of the conference.

Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT
@Tomahawk red

So I take it that winning isn't important?

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Not sure where you got that from.

The point was, when it comes to dominating the mid major scene... playing a weak schedule every year with one or two tough games, making a bowl and finishing with a great record and a (mediocre) bowl game, Utah has already done that.

In other words, there's no thrill in that anymore. What's the point? Utah twice reached the highest point possible as a mid major. Now, Utah and its fans want to try it on the highest level. Naturally, it has been difficult and will continue to be difficult. But I would rather try and compete on this level and fail (as Utah has done) than to continue as a meaningless mid major... where 9 10 and 11 win seasons mean very little.

If I could take Utah's last three seasons in the Pac 12 or go back and make them 10 or 11 win seasons in the MWC, I'd still take the Pac 12. That's why when BYU fans talk bout their winning records and bowl games, it impresses us very little.

Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

The league has three tiers. The top tier (Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, Washington)

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How do you expect to get any credibility with remarks like that? That remark seriously raises questions about your football knowledge.

Washington is NOT on the conference's top level. But it's doubtless you think they are, simply because they shellacked BYU last year and it's an image-saving measure. But it's not true. They are a middle of the pack team. Period.

The top level includes Oregon, Stanford, UCLA and USC. Washington isn't close.

Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT
@Tomahawk red

It isn't the TOP schedule in the league. Cal plays a harder one. So does Washington State.

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ASU is the only Pac 12 team that had a tougher schedule than Utah last season.

Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT

BigCougar
Bountiful, UT

I think you confused him with Kyle Whittingham maybe? Wasn't it Kyle who boasted to the media that his QB group was in the upper echelon of the Pac12?

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Nope. It was Thomas. Made the remark on Twitter within the past year.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ BigCougar

Utah never begged, especially publicly, to be invited to join the PAC-12. There is no need to fabricate stories.

And this quote "...was stuck with Colorado and was desperate to find a 2nd school who would say yes." is hilarious.

The list of schools that would have said "yes" to joining the PAC-12 includes (but is not limited to) SJSU, SDSU, Fresno St., Nevada, UNLV, Hawaii, Idaho, Boise St., New Mexico, New Mexico St., Utah St., TCU, Colorado St, Wyoming, AND especially BYU.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@tomahawk red

"ASU is the only Pac 12 team that had a tougher schedule than Utah last season."

I'm always amused when utah "fans" like yourself bring this up, especially after making a comment like this one to another poster.

"How do you expect to get any credibility with remarks like that? That remark seriously raises questions about your football knowledge."

You realize the reason everyone else in the pac12 has an easier schedule than utah is because they almost all play utah don't you? That is right, utah is practically the worst team in the pac12 so playing utah actually weakens everyone else's SOS while the opposite is true for utah. Because everyone else in the pac12 is better than utah playing everyone else makes utah's SOS tougher while playing utah makes everyone else's weaker.

Such a funny bit of truth that utah "fans" somehow don't seem to quite comprehend. lol

tinplater
scottsdale, AZ

@ two for flinching,
Your list of schools who would jump at joining the PAC 12 is hilarious! Why not SUU, NAU, Montana, Montana State….heck the entire Big Sky? USU for example would never enter a league in which they would have to compete with the likes of the powerhouses in the PAC 12. Boise State and maybe Fresno State might be able to sort of compete at that level (like Utah).

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ tinplater

BigCougar was suggesting that the PAC-12 was stuck scrambling for a team after the Big-12 merger fell through. The fact is the PAC-12 could have had their pick of any mid-major out west and were not desperate to find a team to say yes. All of the schools I listed would jump at the chance to join the PAC-12 for the revenue increase alone. USU is making $3-5 million per year in the MWC, do you honestly believe USU would turn down an offer that pays $20+ million per year?

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