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Former Utah quarterback Micah Thomas is transferring

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  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    June 17, 2014 3:50 p.m.

    @ tinplater

    BigCougar was suggesting that the PAC-12 was stuck scrambling for a team after the Big-12 merger fell through. The fact is the PAC-12 could have had their pick of any mid-major out west and were not desperate to find a team to say yes. All of the schools I listed would jump at the chance to join the PAC-12 for the revenue increase alone. USU is making $3-5 million per year in the MWC, do you honestly believe USU would turn down an offer that pays $20+ million per year?

  • tinplater scottsdale, AZ
    June 17, 2014 7:26 a.m.

    @ two for flinching,
    Your list of schools who would jump at joining the PAC 12 is hilarious! Why not SUU, NAU, Montana, Montana Stateā€¦.heck the entire Big Sky? USU for example would never enter a league in which they would have to compete with the likes of the powerhouses in the PAC 12. Boise State and maybe Fresno State might be able to sort of compete at that level (like Utah).

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 16, 2014 9:54 p.m.

    @tomahawk red

    "ASU is the only Pac 12 team that had a tougher schedule than Utah last season."

    I'm always amused when utah "fans" like yourself bring this up, especially after making a comment like this one to another poster.

    "How do you expect to get any credibility with remarks like that? That remark seriously raises questions about your football knowledge."

    You realize the reason everyone else in the pac12 has an easier schedule than utah is because they almost all play utah don't you? That is right, utah is practically the worst team in the pac12 so playing utah actually weakens everyone else's SOS while the opposite is true for utah. Because everyone else in the pac12 is better than utah playing everyone else makes utah's SOS tougher while playing utah makes everyone else's weaker.

    Such a funny bit of truth that utah "fans" somehow don't seem to quite comprehend. lol

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    June 15, 2014 12:59 p.m.

    @ BigCougar

    Utah never begged, especially publicly, to be invited to join the PAC-12. There is no need to fabricate stories.

    And this quote "...was stuck with Colorado and was desperate to find a 2nd school who would say yes." is hilarious.

    The list of schools that would have said "yes" to joining the PAC-12 includes (but is not limited to) SJSU, SDSU, Fresno St., Nevada, UNLV, Hawaii, Idaho, Boise St., New Mexico, New Mexico St., Utah St., TCU, Colorado St, Wyoming, AND especially BYU.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    June 14, 2014 4:50 p.m.

    BigCougar
    Bountiful, UT

    I think you confused him with Kyle Whittingham maybe? Wasn't it Kyle who boasted to the media that his QB group was in the upper echelon of the Pac12?

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    Nope. It was Thomas. Made the remark on Twitter within the past year.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    June 14, 2014 4:46 p.m.

    Steven S Jarvis
    Orem, UT
    @Tomahawk red

    It isn't the TOP schedule in the league. Cal plays a harder one. So does Washington State.

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    ASU is the only Pac 12 team that had a tougher schedule than Utah last season.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    June 14, 2014 4:45 p.m.

    Steven S Jarvis
    Orem, UT

    The league has three tiers. The top tier (Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, Washington)

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    How do you expect to get any credibility with remarks like that? That remark seriously raises questions about your football knowledge.

    Washington is NOT on the conference's top level. But it's doubtless you think they are, simply because they shellacked BYU last year and it's an image-saving measure. But it's not true. They are a middle of the pack team. Period.

    The top level includes Oregon, Stanford, UCLA and USC. Washington isn't close.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    June 14, 2014 4:41 p.m.

    Steven S Jarvis
    Orem, UT
    @Tomahawk red

    So I take it that winning isn't important?

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    Not sure where you got that from.

    The point was, when it comes to dominating the mid major scene... playing a weak schedule every year with one or two tough games, making a bowl and finishing with a great record and a (mediocre) bowl game, Utah has already done that.

    In other words, there's no thrill in that anymore. What's the point? Utah twice reached the highest point possible as a mid major. Now, Utah and its fans want to try it on the highest level. Naturally, it has been difficult and will continue to be difficult. But I would rather try and compete on this level and fail (as Utah has done) than to continue as a meaningless mid major... where 9 10 and 11 win seasons mean very little.

    If I could take Utah's last three seasons in the Pac 12 or go back and make them 10 or 11 win seasons in the MWC, I'd still take the Pac 12. That's why when BYU fans talk bout their winning records and bowl games, it impresses us very little.

  • Darren Rowe Heber City, UT
    June 14, 2014 2:51 p.m.

    I love how ute fans are still giving the excuse that they are new to the Pac-12 to explain why they suck.

    Will utah have their years of success? Of course they will. Duke just went to a bowl game. Kansas was a top 10 team in 2007.

    But over the long haul, utah comes nowhere near the rest of the Pac-12.

    You've been a member for 3 years now. Face it. You are at the bottom of the conference.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    June 13, 2014 2:41 p.m.

    Tomahawk Red
    North Salt Lake, UT
    Not surprised. Nor do I care.

    "Thomas hasn't contributed a thing since arriving here. All I've seen from him is a Twitter claim that he was going to be the best QB the Pac 12 has ever seen."

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    I think you confused him with Kyle Whittingham maybe? Wasn't it Kyle who boasted to the media that his QB group was in the upper echelon of the Pac12? Sounds like Micah was just parroting what he was being told by his Head Coach.

    You've heard the old saying, "the Speed of the Leader determines the rate of the pack"? Sounds like the nut doesn't fall far from the tree.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    June 13, 2014 2:39 p.m.

    @tomahawk and Steven S Jarvis

    "The dregs are the teams that can't get to bowls. This is the sorry state Utah is in. Sure they are playing the most difficult schedule they have faced. However it isn't the TOP schedule in the league. Cal plays a harder one. So does Washington State. With Southern Utah, Idaho State and Weber State the school guarantees one win a year."

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    Great point, Wash St managed to win enough games with their tougher schedule to qualify for a bowl game. I guess that means there's an even lower tier than "the Dregs" because Utah can't even keep pace with Wash St.

    As for tomahawk's comment about publicly begging to join the Big 12, what's wrong with taking a page from the utah playbook? Utah's public begging paid off. When the Pac12's attempt to de-stabilize the Big 12 and lure Texas, etc away by inviting Colorado got stiff-armed by Texas and the rest of the Big12, the Pac12 was stuck with Colorado and was desperate to find a 2nd school who would say yes.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    June 13, 2014 2:15 p.m.

    Chris B
    Salt Lake City, UT
    nhatch,

    "How does it feel to be incapable of beating a team near the bottom of the Pac 12?"

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    Not as bad as it feels being a fan of the team near the bottom of the Pac 12. Lol!

    On a serious note, you can't blame a guy for getting tired of losing. I think this is a sign of the culture of losing developing up on the hill. Once ingrained it's hard to break. He's smart to want to break free now before it's too late.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    June 13, 2014 9:43 a.m.

    @Tomahawk red

    So I take it that winning isn't important? Utah has NEVER had a winning record playing a top 30 schedule. They only made bowls when they played "easy" schedules like 2004. Utah is in over its head and can't compete.

    The league has three tiers. The top tier (Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, Washington) can win the league. The middle tier has two to three ranked teams in it. The dregs are the teams that can't get to bowls. This is the sorry state Utah is in. Sure they are playing the most difficult schedule they have faced. However it isn't the TOP schedule in the league. Cal plays a harder one. So does Washington State. With Southern Utah, Idaho State and Weber State the school guarantees one win a year. They have but one P5 matchup scheduled while the rest of the league has more. Utah most years will play the 8th-12th toughest schedule in the PAC 12

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    June 13, 2014 8:23 a.m.

    Tomahawk

    That was funny.

    It kind of reminds one of Cramer dominating the dojo filled with 10 year olds.

  • Rockarolla West Jordan, UT
    June 12, 2014 11:59 p.m.

    How bad do you have to be when you can't beat out Travis Wilson? The Ute QB situation is crowded and I can't blame this kid for leaving. Looks like Wilson is safe for another year! This years Ute team is going to have a hard time winning 2 PAC-12 games. Might be time for Kyle to say so long!

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    June 12, 2014 7:36 p.m.

    CG
    Orem, UT

    you have to go back almost 20 years further to the BYU class of 1973 to find the last BYU class never to have played in a bowl.

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    Since you don't get it, I'll educate you.

    If Utah still played a watered down mid major schedule like BYU does, we would have our consecutive bowling streak still going and going and going. Adding four or five automatic gimmes every season kinda guarantees you'll go bowling every time. Utah has entirely given that way of life up in order to play with the big boys.

    Meanwhile, as Utah tries to climb that ladder, BYU is the 10th grader still playing tee-ball -- and talking like the toughest guy on the block just because he can beat on a group of second graders. If BYU was my team, I'd be embarrassed.

    Four losses in a row/9 of last 13

    Left out in the cold

    No power invite

    No national respect

    PUBLICLY begging to be in the Big XII(snicker)

    PUBLICLY being rebuffed by the Big XII

    But by all means, keep up that smack... and make believe that you guys really are better.

    LOL!

  • TanMan_101 West Jordan, UT
    June 12, 2014 5:12 p.m.

    CG

    Really? You're penciling in the next 5 to 6 years without a bowl game for Utah based on recruits that haven't even committed to the program yet? The 2015 recruiting season isn't even half over. Sheesh.

  • TanMan_101 West Jordan, UT
    June 12, 2014 5:10 p.m.

    Step it up a notch in scheduling? Are you serious? Would you like them to schedule NFL teams or something? Guess Dr. Hill should put in a call to the New England Patriots to see if they are available for week 2.

  • CG Orem, UT
    June 12, 2014 2:51 p.m.

    CB

    Micah obviously wanted to play in a bowl sometime during his college career and he could see that was never going to happen with the Utes.

    Utah's class of 2015 is half way to becoming the first since the Utah class of 1991 NEVER to play in a bowl.

    Of course, you have to go back almost 20 years further to the BYU class of 1973 to find the last BYU class never to have played in a bowl.

    Since BYU's first bowl in 1974, no BYU class has missed playing in at least one bowl.

  • Tomahawk Red North Salt Lake, UT
    June 12, 2014 2:43 p.m.

    Not surprised. Nor do I care.

    Thomas hasn't contributed a thing since arriving here. All I've seen from him is a Twitter claim that he was going to be the best QB the Pac 12 has ever seen.

    Seems like kind of a cocky kid whose talent can't cash the checks written by his mouth.

    He was never a serious candidate for QB on this team. Maybe he can win the spot on a mid major team.

  • DrUte Woods Cross, UT
    June 12, 2014 11:35 a.m.

    @Old/Stupid: Yes recruiting competition is tough, and it's undeniable Utah's recruiting leverage (and depth) has improved with their P12 membership.

    Facilities, dollars, recruiting, all on the rise. Bodes well for the Red crew.

    --- Perhaps you should be a bit more concerned with conditions in Provostan before tapping your Blue drum about conditions on the Hill. The rumor mill has it that Bronko is about to follow up his stellar newspaper interview with a Late Night Show campaign.... Can't wait for his soft shoe on all the late night networks.

    Oh, & and if/when you find Busby, be sure to say Hi. Lots of his Blue friends are walking around The Valley with no sox, a regrettable result of his precipitous demise....

    And let us know when the Big12 calls, K?

  • slcftball Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2014 9:04 a.m.

    @steven Jarvis

    I am definitely not a Utah fan-your scheduling comment didn't make sense. You gotta do better than that

  • Old But Not Stupid Moorpark, CA
    June 12, 2014 8:57 a.m.

    Mickey Romney-

    "We're not going to win the Pac 12 with MWC quality guys."

    You're NEVER gonna win the PAC 12 with the 2nd tier PAC-12 athletes that you will always be successful in recruiting. Let's face it. The power 5 conferences each have 2-3 Big Dogs and the rest are Little Dogs.

    Don't make me tell you to which group the Utes are forever bound.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 11, 2014 8:22 p.m.

    @Steven S Jarvis

    Utah has to step it up a notch in scheduling?

    Utah in 2013 played the toughest schedule in the PAC-12 and 3rd toughest in the nation.

    We played 7 top 30 teams going 1-6, national champion Florida State was 2-0, and pre-season national champion BYU was 0-3.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    June 11, 2014 6:56 p.m.

    From FBSschedules: Longest Non-Conference power five scheduling droughts:

    "3. Utah

    Last Non-Conference, Power-Five Opponent: Oct. 9, 2010, at Iowa State

    Last Non-Conference, Power-Five, Regular-Season Win: 68-27 over Iowa State in 2010

    Though Utah played Pitt out of conference in 2011, the Panthers were still a member of the Big East then, not joining the ACC until 2013.

    Ironically, the last time the Utes played a non-league game against a team in a power-five conference was when they were still Mountain West members. This was the same year that Utah also traveled to South Bend to play Notre Dame, a game it lost 28-3.

    The Utes do have a home-and-away series scheduled against Michigan in 2014 and 2015, but after that they have no power-five members on their long-term slate."

    Utah needs to step it up a notch in the scheduling department if they want to stay even with the rest of the league. Even Colorado (at number 6) has more future series scheduled.

  • CougOrUte..Naah Nibley, UT
    June 11, 2014 6:04 p.m.

    Michael, Michael, Michael, 7-5? I think your dreaming buddy. The Utes will have to perform way above their heads to get to 4-8. I think all the Ute fans should be absolutely delirious with joy if they get to 6-6. I am not bagging on the Ute players, but their schedule is a killer. I am afraid they are 2 recruiting years and 1 coaching change away from seriously competing in the PAC 10+2.

  • Michael Romney Salt Lake, UT
    June 11, 2014 3:57 p.m.

    I see some of these transfers are a good thing, not a bad thing. If a guy isn't Pac 12 material - then its a win win for him to leave to another program and we can fill that spot with someone who is Pac 12 material. We're not going to win the Pac 12 with MWC quality guys. I think if we can stay healthy we will do just fine this year and go 7-5. Cheers everyone!

  • the matrix Cedar City, UT
    June 11, 2014 2:58 p.m.

    While I congratulate Utah for their success against BYU how does it feel
    Chris B to be that team at the bottom of the PAC-12. Just goes to show you how far the Utes have to go to be considered a top PAC-12 program. Just one question for you Chris B. is that all you do all day is look for reasons to pick at BYU? The bottom line is both coaches run quality programs because their main goals is to not only win but to turn out quality young men. Coach Whit is good coach who truly cares about his players.Even though I am a dedicated Cougar fan I hope Utah can contend soon for the PAC-12 championship and wish the UTES nothing but the best. I hope the Utes win the PAC-12 in the near future. Chris B. lets see if you have enough integrity to say one positive thing about BYU. It might help you turn over a new leaf.

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    June 11, 2014 2:43 p.m.

    Can't blame Thomas for leaving, and I wish him well wherever he ends up. It would be nice to Have Christian eligible to give our secondary a little more depth.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 11, 2014 1:42 p.m.

    nhatch,

    How does it feel to be incapable of beating a team near the bottom of the Pac 12?

    Just goes to show how far byu is from being considered a power conference quality program.

    P.S. See the ESPN article today from the Big 12 reaffirming they are not interested in byu and making it clear there isn't a single team outside the power conferences that would benefit the conference to add.

    LOL!

  • Jeremy234 SLC, UT
    June 11, 2014 1:38 p.m.

    @ Johnny Truimph Well obviously the Pac-12 thing is still kind of new, whereas Utah Football is over 100 years old.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    June 11, 2014 1:02 p.m.

    I'm sorry to see Micah leave. Reports from spring were that he had really excelled at receiver, and in high school he was good safety as well.

    I hope Christian can play immediately, that would help a pretty inexperienced stable of corners.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    June 11, 2014 12:44 p.m.

    Mediocrity, too bad.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    June 11, 2014 12:29 p.m.

    It seems to be either feast or famine at Quarterback. Travis Wilson will have another exam later this month to see if he can safely play. I hope all works out for him.

  • KYUte Louisville, KY
    June 11, 2014 11:36 a.m.

    It's nice to finally have a QB competition again.
    August can't come soon enough!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 11, 2014 11:26 a.m.

    Best of luck to him - I have nothing against a guy wanting to play more or play a position he really wants to who leaves. Clearly, he's not going to be missed on the field but we wish him the best in playing QB elsewhere if that is what he wants.

    Go UTES
    Go Pac 12