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Published: Wednesday, June 11 2014 1:15 p.m. MDT

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GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

" . . . he can leave office more as a statesman rather than as a politician . . ."

Well . . . If he doesn't spend enough time as a politician to ensure his reelection, he won't be in office as a statesman.

In other, he can be politician without being a statesman, but he can't be a statesman without being a politician.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

sen. Hatch needs to make this his last term in office either by his own choice or the voters. Period.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Expecting tax reform from Republican businessmen is an exercise in futility. Businessmen are focused on business profits and that includes a favorable tax system for business.

The fact is that the tax bill for running government could be decreased by a simplified tax system. However, a simplified tax system would take away the business profits of a whole lot of people who depend on the complexities of the tax system to force the need for experts upon people

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: ". . . tax reform could be accomplished much sooner than 2017 if Sen. Hatch and other Republicans were willing to forge a compromise with Democrats."

Sure, if conservatives can just be convinced that tax "reform" means just means more taxes, more carefully focused on liberal vote-buying giveaways.

It's clear the good Prof's real agenda is defeat of Republicans. If his real concern were actually politicians keeping their campaign promises, he'd focus on Obama and Democrats, who have a lot more to be ashamed of along those lines than Mr. Hatch.

Esquire
Springville, UT

I would not hold my breath that Hatch will keep his promise. What was good for Frank Moss is not good for Orrin Hatch. And then there was Rep. Jim Hansen, who promised in 1980 that he would serve no more than 4 or 5 terms, and then not only broke that promise, but denied he even said it even when presented with the proof. My takeaway is that these guys do what's best for themselves. End of story.

homers
Provo, UT

If Hatch wants to run I think we should not fuss over it. Yes, he made it clear this current term would be his last. He changes his mind and decides to run again - so what? The voters know what he said in this regard and if they want to vote against him then so be it. If they are glad he changed his mind and vote for him then so be it. Pontificators in ivory towers are simply spectators like the rest of us anyway. What annoys most naysayers is that if he runs he will probably win. He has shown a proclivity to win after all.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

It looks like Senator Hatch just wanted 6 more years to feather his nest. He really hasn't DONE anything since we re-elected him and sent him back to represent us in Washington (for the last time).

I was against Hatch going back to Washington once again at first. But some people I trust talked me into trusting him again, and he changed his message to align with what I wanted to hear... so I supported him. But it turns out I was fooled (again).

He needs to learn that it's not what you say in your re-election campaign that counts... it's what you DO once elected that counts.

That does not meant that we must elect more Democrats, or radical left or rights. Just that we must elect more good people who represent mainstream middle-America and what we need to live the American dream. Not extremists who think we need to turn more and more control of our lives over to the Government... if we know what's good for us.

People who want to take liberty away from the people... and give it to the Government... are the "radicals" (IMO)

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

If Senator Hatch is to be trusted, this will be his last term. He is not indispensable. There are a lot of good people in Utah who could represent Utah in the Senate.

Mr. Hatch has done nothing but make promises. He told us that he would repeal ObamaCare. How's he doing on that? What about all the other campaign promises? How's he doing on any of them. How's he doing on any campaign promise that he's made in all the time he's been in the Senate? I've lost all confidence in his ability to do anything except get re-elected. If he thinks that getting re-elected is serving Utah, then it's time to retire him.

The only "compromise" in tax reform is to reduce spending. The Constitution lists all items that Congress can tax us for. Any budget item that is not on that enumerated list should be left to the States or to the people, just as the Constitution requires.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Hatch needs to retire period. Everything that is wrong with Washington today stems from Senators just like Hatch who have become a part of the Washington fabric. Hatch has trashed Mike Lee several times just because Mike has dared to buck the "good ole boy" culture in the Senate and vote as a conservative. Hatch has 30 year friendships on both sides of the isle and those friendships or "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" have ruined congress and the country. Term limits are absolutely required if we are to reclaim our country from the corrupt culture of Washington insiders. I have personally written Hatch several times bashing him for his less-than-conservative voting record and I wish more Utahan's would do the same.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey 2 bits -

"it's not what you say . . . that counts... it's what you do that counts."

Uh huh

Basically, that's the difference between the average "Conservative" in this nation and a domestic terrorist, isn't it?

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Hatch has long since outlived his usefulness and his competence. He needs to retire.

He lied in 1976 when he said 3 terms was too much, why should we expect him to be have been honest last time he ran?

If he is on the GOP ticket in 2016, I will vote for someone else. Not the dem, of course, but someone else.

Ford DeTreese
Provo, UT

Republicans compromise? How can anyone in their right mind (or even in their left mind) use those two words together in the same sentence?

As for Hatch, I am more afraid he won't run. If he graciously bows out, Utah will probably elect another Mike Lee. Argh. If he runs, there's always a chance he will prevail in the convention or the primary (all that money does speak loudly) and then lose to a Democrat in November 2018. If he manages to secure another term, he will at least be less dangerous than some of the tea party favors we have running around the Senate chamber making fools of themselves (like the aforementioned Lee).

Oh, by the way, global warming is a liberal conspiracy to raise taxes on billionaires, and health care should be strictly market based, so that all those freeloaders can't mooch off the rest of us 53-percenters. And let's not forget a gun in every baby stroller.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

We had an opportunity to force him to keep his word decades ago.

Instead, we the people, decided to empower Hatch to become a career politician.

Why do we complain and then vote the same? Makes no sense

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ lost in DC, if Hatch is on the ticket along with a Democrat, and they are the only ones, and you won't vote for a Democrat, who will you write in? (sad how you are so myopic about party affiliation)

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

Sen. Hatch seldom keeps his word about much of anything.

But he ALWAYS has good excuses why he didn't!

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Counting his time as a Congressman, Harry Reid has been in office only a few years less than Orrin.

Here's betting the Prof is not as opposed to Harry's running again as he is to Orrin's.

SharpHooks
Sandy, UT

Hatch's music is as good as he has been honest, which is to say ..hardly.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Esquire,
Did I say I would write someone in?

nope.

Thought did occur to me, but I did not say I would do that. Don't rightly recall, but I don't think I voted for hatch last time - I'm pretty sure I voted for Jim Wilson against hatch early in his career.

Myopic about party affiliation? No, I think I see clearly what dem party affiliation means and what dems have become. Their actions are corrupt, dishonest, anti-family, and anti-religious. They oppose most that I see as good and promote that which I deem evil and undesirable. Not that I am trying to force my values on anyone else, unlike Hutterite and other leftists who have stated they would do away with 1st amendment religious liberties.

Believe me, I DO wish I had a viable alternative, but dems do not present that to me. I vote GOP most of the time (I did not vote for bush in ’04 or mclame in ’08) not because I necessarily want their candidate, but I feel the need to keep the dem out!

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Since when do we expect ANY politician to "Keep his word"???

Does this only apply to Hatch? Or does it apply to Obama and others as well?

Mikhail
ALPINE, UT

@Ford DeTreese You are right "compromise" hasn't been the word - "capitulate" is more like it. Mr. Hatch is at the head of the class on the issue of capitulation. I am liking the sound of another Mike Lee from Utah.

You are wrong though on Global Warming. It isn't a liberal conspiracy to take away money from rich guys. It is a conspiracy to make some liberal guys rich by convincing gullible people into believing that humans are evil (excepting of course those who believe as they do) and need to be stopped from their natural killing ways. Follow the money.

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