I have followed Mia's career for a number of years and felt she was
sincere, but lacked polish. Now she states that she would join the "black
caucus" if elected. For me, her being black is a non issue, but joining a
caucus with a racist agenda bothers me. If she were to be elected, she should
NOT be in Washington D.C. with any other purpose other than to represent ALL of
the residents of Utah. There is a far greater number of people with Hispanic
and European ancestry living in Utah than Blacks (blacks should be represented,
but so should those with Asian, Hispanic and European ancestry. Joining a black
caucus is a serious issue for me. Rethink this, Mia.
The last thing we need in D.C. is another lawyer! Owens is a big government
liberal who doesn't think our state is capable of managing our land. He is
out of touch with the mainstream in this district! Go Mia!
[Caucus members, she said then, "ignite emotions and ignite racism when
there isn't]Says the person who implied that the CBC helps keep
black people dependent on the government...
The race issue is caused by the Gov. and is kept stirring up the issue. Social
issues is none of the Governments business. They only purpose is to protect our
borders, and keep our economy strong.
@Water rocket,I'm not sure why this would be such an issue. Love
didn't say she supports the CBC's objectives. Quite the contrary. She
said she would work to change their objectives. Joining a caucus doesn't
mean you only represent certain people. It has nothing to do with that. There
is a caucus for physicians-turned congressmen. That doesn't mean they only
represent doctors. It is absurd to think that merely joining the
Congressional Black Caucus would somehow prevent Mrs. Love from representing
constituents of other races. Especially when she states with no ambiguity
whatsoever that he goal is to change what the CBC stands for.It's admirable of her to want to be a good, conservative role model for
HEY Water Rocket Try reading the story she says she want to take it apart
not just keep it the way it is. Still glad your rethinking Mia. If you check out
her record (not just listen to her) you will find she veto and says two very
I seriously doubt that the Congressional Black Caucus will have anything to do
with her. I don't see them accepting Tim Scott from South Carolina. Other
black Republicans have also been rejected. Ask them what they think of Clarence
Thomas. It would be better for Mia to not even bring the subject up because they
will not have her meet with them. They are by far the most radical, left wing
group in Congress. Mia Love represents everything they hate.
If Doug Owens entire campaign is going to be based on bomb throwing and attacks
then this race is already over. That may be red meat for the angry liberal crowd
but I think we all want solutions not empty angry rhetoric from an empty suit.
The Utah Democrat party seems to think that having angry bomb throwers
like Jim Dabakis and Doug Owens is going to win a race. Sadly they are wrong. At
least they show the true tone of the Utah Democrat party.
I agree with water, they probably wouldn't be very nice to her, you know
she probably isn't "black" enough, or they would try to entrap her
into their agenda...Why are there even caucus organizations within Congress?
@cruiser - Ownen's a liberal, thats a good one. He's a blue dog
democrat. Utah ceded all rights and ownership to a huge portion of the land
within the state boundaries to the Federal government, end of story. The
gerrymandering efforts to split Salt Lake Country into three congressional
districts was absolutely wrong.
I agree with the comment @water rocket. Ms. Love appears to be very sincere and
qualified. However, it does appear that she wants to represent
African-Americans and not the entire constituency for which she will be elected.
I find that the comment @ArizonaMormon may be a bit naïve to the real
agenda of Ms. Love.
I have been searching for a resolution to the Lee Benson-Mia Love flap over the
MLK story interview. As it last stood, Mia denied what Benson wrote.Has
there been any update on that?For me, her backstory confusion is a
Well, she just lost my vote,,, I really thought she would be a great candidate,
but any time, black people start to play the Race card, just to win, or think
thats why they don't win,, they loose my support.. if we are all
Americans, and we are all fighting for the same cause, STOP pulling the race
card just to get what you want, If she were to win, it will be because so many
people voted for her, and I can promise you, there will be black, white,
hispanic , and other groups, but if we are all one, then the black community
needs to act like it just as much as the rest of us do...
Mia will be lucky if the Congressional Black Caucus will even let her know where
the meetings are. The fact is, they aren't the Congressional Black Caucus,
they are the Democrat Black Caucus. But, Mia is tough. she can take it.Go Mia!
@ BU52, In a weird way, I kind of agree with you that the mainstream blacks
might not accept her as one of their own. She is more like Michelle Bachman,
white and clueless about racial issues in America. The thing is, many of the
comments here, attacking the CBC, indicate one of two things. Either an
inherent lack of understanding of racial history and issues, which is where Love
is, in my opinion, or latent racism. By latent racism, I don't necessarily
mean intentional racism, but in a way that many don't really understand.
It's easy to say one is not racist, but reality says otherwise, often in
some very subtle ans surprising ways. If Love doesn't appreciate the
racial issues faced by mainstream blacks, and I really doubt she does as she is
totally immersed in a white, middle class world, then she shouldn't bother.
In the end, if she is elected, she won't be accepted by the CBC, even if
for policy reasons, because she doesn't share their goals, but she
won't feel fully accepted by her own party in the House. She will be used,
but not fully accepted.
Ms. Love should just remind Owens, HIS DEMOCRAT PARTY:...has
murdered 55 million mostly Black, Hispanic and Asian children in the womb since
1970, ...supported & endorsed slavery,...opposed abolition,...founded & funded the KKK,...wrote & passed every Jim Crow
Law,...opposed the 13th, 14th & 15th Amendments that ended slavery,
granted citizenship & the vote...supported the 16th Amendment, Federal
Reserve & Revenue Acts which encumbered private property & brought ALL
America to indentured servitude/slavery...supported the 17th Amendment
which stripped STATE'S power to CURB FEDERALISM...founded Marxist
Labor Unions to suppress freedom of individual enterprise & force recently
freed Black Republicans back into the Democrat Party that had enslaved them in
the South,...broke the treaties, stole the land & interred Native
Americans to prisons called Reservations,...broke the citizenship
covenant, stole the land & interred Asians to prison camps called Manzonar,
Topaz, Granada, Tule Lake and Minidoka,...repudiated the 1st Amendment
rights of Mormons, harassed, murdered & chased them completely out of the
United States,...kept segregating society, the military, schools,...fathered Progressivism (Marxism)in America,...harassed, bugged,
jailed & murdered Republican Martin Luther King,...built drug &
organized crime infested ghettos,...want to remove a Black man's
right to keep and bear arms, assemble & worship freely.
A vote for Owen is a vote for an older white male. Typical democrats. They just
don't have candidates that look like their voting base.
@ JBQ and Water Rocket:I'm not sure why you think you are
qualified to interpret Mia's intentions beyond anything she's actually
said. And to even insinuate her primary motive is to mainly represent Black
people is ridiculous. The truth is, the Congressional Black Caucus
does a lot of negative things. It's hurting America. She simply wants to
get in a situation where she can create some positive change. Someone truly does
need to change the CBC's current agenda and purpose. And that can best be
done from inside of it. From outside of it, all attempts have thus far
failed.Mia knows what she is doing and continues to stand for
traditional Conservative principles. She will make an excellent representative
of Utah. There's no question in my mind that the people of Utah should
support her. She stands for what the majority of Utah does. And it's not
Obama's liberal version of Hope and Change. Get to Washington
DC and help get things fixed, Mia. I have strong confidence you can and will do
Wish I could vote for you Mia, but don't live in Utan.. I think too many
of us try to 'read into ' your comments things that simply aren't
there.and put our own interpertion on your intentions. Unfortunately the current
world we live in makes it difficult to believe what people say because a good
number of them tell us only what they think will gain our vote. The fact that
you are a Republican says a lot more about your thinking than the thoughts of
the posters. I wish you the best as you are a doer and not a taker.
Does anyone commenting have a clue as to what the CBC does? Do the CBC naysayers
care to know? "Ignorance is a cure for nothing." W.E.B. Du
I'm tired of politics. Everyone has an agenda and rarely is that agenda
the best for constituents. This all needs to end.
Mia may have a difficult time.Southern Utah, for instance, is filled with
many 55+ communities. Ours is going on 1,700 homes, with not one black
individual to be found. Many of Utah's residents relocate here from
other states hoping to find safety, tranquility and peace, and to avoid the
crime, racial tension, etc, that is no so rampant across America now. They seem
to think that Utah is different, and they definitely want to keep it that way.
Many cannot accept diversity or new ideas in any shape or form. Some speak
very opposite of "political correctness", to put it nicely.Not
sure how this venture will go for Mia.
@ kevinmosley:The CBC actions indicate they primarily like to play
the "race card" similar to what Al Sharpton always does. Victim-hood
seems to be their motto whenever I've listened to CBC representitives talk.
History has shown they adamantly oppose almost anything and everything
Republicans try to do, since they are almost exclusively Democrats.They oppose giving inner-city youth more chance at a better education by
opposing the school voucher system that Republicans have tried to push
(Democrats are indebted to school teacher unions who supported Obama's
campaign and those unions strongly oppose the voucher program).When
anyone has stated there are currently problems within Black families (3 of every
4 Black babies are born out of wedlock and most Black families are single-parent
without a father at home), they become incensed and say that such claims are
racially motivated and biased. Their answer to everything seems to
be to get more taxpayer money for more government programs for more Black
people... as if that is a cure-all. A small amount of online
research will validate my comments and their veracity.
@ ECR:We all know Black history.You act like you've
forgotten slavery actually ended a century and a half ago. How long are you and
other liberals going to keep playing that race-card of victimhood? Things have
changed and much of that issue has. We now have laws protecting all
creeds and races. Everyone now has official equal opportunity. What more can the
government officially do in that regard without favoring one race over
another?Blacks account for 13% of the U.S. population yet have over
20% of federal government jobs... some of the most sought-after in America.
Affirmative action programs have done a lot of good... so much so that
they're sometimes becoming counterproductive. Much success regarding former
oppression has happened. Why do you continue being blind to racial progress?Yes, I've known various Black people throughout most of my life
when living elsewhere. Many (but admittedly not all) I still consider friends.
Even some of they agree there are Black race-hustlers who are overplaying the
victimhood scenario. And yes, some problems do still exist.There are
better ways of helping Black people than what the CBC is doing.
ECR...What makes you assume Concinnity, and by extention most
Utahans, don't understand Black history and current issues? You seem to be
making judgments without actually knowing facts.You're trying
to expound history that most of us are already aware of. The Civil Rights Act
took place a half century ago... almost 2 generations ago. But you make it sound
like it barely took place. There have been hundreds of billions of
dollars thrown into dozens of social programs since the Civil Rights Act was
passed, but with only very limited success. The fact that you are still claiming
such a high degree of victimhoom for Blacks still exists proves as much. And
indeed, some undoubtedly still are victims in one way or another. I
read Concinnity's comments to mean that the CBC's approach to solving
Black race problems isn't working well, and that Mia Love wants to change
that by incorporating Conservative principles into the CBC agenda. I'm not
sure why you seem to be so up in arms over that. What else is the
CBC doing for Black people other than pushing for even more money for more
government programs? Nothing.
Oh the comments are hilarious. First of all you have the Tea Partiers mad at
their hero Mia now because she dares to say she'll join the CBC (even
though she expressly criticizes it). Then you have the people who constantly
play the victim card (our religious freedom is being violated because we have to
hear about gay people getting married!!) criticizing black people for playing
the victim card. Quite entertaining.
We do not need another "entitled" political dynasty member, especially a
lawyer, representing us in Congress. Especially a supposed blue dog who will
turn out to pull a "Matheson" on us, voting with Nancy Pelosi when it
really counts and making token "moderate" votes when given permission to
do so on unimportant issues.No, we need Mia Love who is strong,
principled, and unafraid to change the status quo- witness her bold willingness
to try to change the ridiculous policies of the Congressional Black [Liberal
Democrat] Caucus. Or at least highlight the fact that not all black people
think that way.We, and the entire country, need Mia Love in
Congress! Not another lawyer son of a politicia
Betcha, your ID says you live in Massachusetts. That means you don't have a
vote to win or lose. Believe it or not, this article is about a Congressional
race in Utah.
Concinnity and Sagacious - Despite your assumptions, I made no reference to the
people of Utah. I was a Utah resident for more than 11 years and I know the
people of Utah to be as good hearted and open minded as any people in the
country. The general tone of the comments on this page are that Mia Love would
be a traitor if she joined the CBC or the comments took that as an excuse to
make unfounded accusations about the CBC. Yes, it is the
Congressional Black Caucus and, as such, it has an agenda that is focused on
promoting and supporting the issues imprtant5 clacjk people, and more recently,
all people of color. "Blacks account for 13% of the U.S.
population yet have over 20% of federal government jobs.." I sure that is
true. But there is a reason for that. The vast majority of federal workers
live and work in the Washington DC area and Washongton DC is 75% black. So
every janitor, security guard or other low paying federal job is typically
filled by a black person. There are reasons for some of the things people think
@ DN Subscriber, if ever I've seen a candidate who thinks she is entitled
to the job, it is Love. She acts like she is just waiting for the
coronation.And my, if any of you think that racism and
discrimination aren't still a really big problme, you prove my point.
I wonder if Ms. Love will join the Tea Party Caucus? Replace the words
"Congressional Black" with "Tea Party" and the same description
applies. Will she also try to "take [THAT] thing apart from the inside
Love appears to be qualified?Wow...Then we really need
to raise our standards.
I sure wish Enid Greene Waldholtz would join the Democrats and run agaist her.
That would be a close election with lots of entertainment.
I'm so glad Mia is already formulating a plan. The CBC needs some
alternative voices, and it will do us all good.
Speaking on the notion of affirmative action. It's not fair that most
athletes are black. If we really are going to use percentages, then about 1/2
of the average team should be white, 13% black, 20% latino, 3% Asian 2% Pacific
Islander so on and so forth. Those percentages are probably inaccurate, but, it
gives you an idea.If affirmative action is about making things fair,
then that is an area that is very biased towards anyone that isn't
A rising star. The policies of the left do in fact pander to those that have a
Govt. dependency mentality. They buy into the lies, or politically correct
suggestions that if you don't support the purported ideology of the left,
then of course your a racist. However their real intent only weighs them down
and keeps them where they are at. Their real intent. We don't need more
programs. We don't need to rape other Americans of their monies lowering
their standard of living, to keep the 'dependency mentally challenged
individuals' in the same place. If one wants to better their lives thy will
vote for jobs, not programs. High paying jobs, not temporary low wage jobs that
we have recently been seeing. Vote for an environment where job creation will
flourish. Now we need a 'Working America,' a 'Prosperous
America' once again. An America full of opportunity for all.