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Published: Tuesday, June 10 2014 5:55 p.m. MDT

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NT
SomewhereIn, UT

Amen, Doug.

I must say that I do miss the good ole days (meant as open-ended and subjective).

Samwise
Eagle Mountain, UT

I am not a LeBron fan, and found the whole "the decision" thing ridiculous. But I can't blame him for doing what was in his own self interest. There was nothing illegal or immoral in what he did. And why is it the "right way" to stay on the same team for their whole career and build a team with only players you drafted? Don't get me wrong, I respect stars who stay on the same team their whole career. And I suppose it is more the "traditional" way. But that does not make building a team through free agency wrong. Contracts run out. And when they do, players should do what is best for them.

One more thing, the author should work on his analogy of Jordan not going after Magic Johnson and Larry Bird to join up with him, as it is not comparable given who James teamed up with.

Larry Bird + Magic Johnson >> Dwayne Wade + Chris Bosh

And don't forget that Jordan already had another legitimate all star (and future Hall of Famer and top 50 ever player) in Scottie Pippen as part of his supporting cast, making it less tempting to move elsewhere.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

Karl Malone had a small ego problem.

Michael Jordan had a large ego problem.

LeBron James has a "supersized big gulp" ego sized problem.

I like good basketball, just NOT the egos that the multi-millionaires seem to have that go with their good basketball.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

who ever score the most points wins. Popularity contest is not involved.

EPoint
Roy, UT

Guess'n Robinson doesn't like the Yankees either, as they purchase the best players with their bottomless payroll. I agree at least in part with Robinson, as a fan of the underdogs of the world. It probably has something to do with having been there, done that. Love the Spurs because of their team approach, as they have their stars, but play as a team, all 5 players can score, all play tough defense. The Star system works for me, as long as every player is considered a star, respected for his/her abilities and contributions.

Hamath
Omaha, NE

Lebron wants to play the villain card. And the league wants him to do it. He's like the Yankees to most basketball fans. Best thing for the league that could happen would be for him to lose this ring and then come back and win another. People would flock then to see who can beat him. You need someone powerful to root against, but they need to be vulnerable at times too. Almost everyone of course wants the Heat to lose. Go Spurs!

liberal larry
salt lake City, utah

Don't I remember something about the "honorable" Spurs tanking the 1996, 1997 season to get a shot at drafting Duncan?

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

A couple issues with this article.

"James stacked the deck so he could win a championship." So what? He took less money so he could play on a better team. Have any of you ever left a job so you could work for a different company with more growth potential, better coworkers, better management, etc.? According to Doug Robinson this is wrong. According to Doug Robinson this is "stacking the deck."

"Imagine picking your team on the playground and getting the first three picks; how fair is that?" This is a complete straw man argument. Of course this scenario isn't fair, but guess what? This isn't picking teams on the playground. This is the NBA. LeBron didn't break any rules...neither did the Heat. Everybody operated within the rules established by the NBA. The Heat (and LeBron) built their team through free agency, the draft, and the salary cap just like everyone else had the opportunity to do.

I'm no Heat fan - far from it. But this article is the worst of the sour grapes.

NumpDuck
Madison, WI

Doug,

This is LeBron's 5th final. He's won two. He's the best in the world doing what he loves. He'll earn $500+ million before he's done. What have you done to make your opinion of him relevant?

Simpe Spectator
St.George, UT

I'm not a heat fan, but I completely disagree. Who are we to get mad at Lebron for doing what was best for him and his family? The world has such a negative view against his move. I don't see people freaking out at google for acquiring different assets/companies. Its a great business move. In economics you learn that merging is better for a company/individual. Tim Duncan missed a championship winning lay up last year and no one seemed to care. Lebron gets cramps and the whole world go bonkers. I think we are trying to judge a guy for doing whats best for him and his family. Doug (the writer of this article) I'm pretty sure at some point in time, you left a job you were at or made a hard decision to take your job with the Deseret News. Why? Because its what you thought would be best for you and your family. It would hopefully make you more money and lead to a successful career. Why let bitterness, spite, and jealousy get in the way of being happy for someone who made a good business move?

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Maybe free-agents should be put back through a free-agent draft, where the teams who need them can get them, instead of the teams with the most money that want to build an all-star team.

LA is notorious for this (Miami has adopted the same strategy). The salary cap means nothing to them. They make more money from the playoff games and possibly winning the championship than they penalty for exceeding the salary cap. That penalty means nothing to them. The TV contract pays it. They make more than the penalty in a week of endorsement deals for their all-star players.

The real thing that bothers me is... this league of normal teams vs the all-star teams in LA, NY, Chicago and Miami.... is just a business, not a sport. You win by throwing the most money around... not by equal teams and players playing the hardest when any given night any team could win.

oddman
,

Re: Brave Sir Robin

If memory serves me correctly, his net went up exponentally because of the favorable tax treatment he could obtain in Florida. Essentially giving him a big raise. His income still doesn't match his enormous ego.

myvision7
Golden, CO

The article is ridiculous. Agreed that the decision was a fiasco and not fair to the Cavaliers but he has since apologized for that and it did raise a lot of money for charity. If Pat Riley had masterminded those three getting together he would be lauded as GM of the century (much like Danny Ainge was when he got Allen and Garnett to play with Pierce) but because the players orchestrated it themselves they are circumventing the system? The fact is James realized you need more than one star to win a championship and it wasn't going to happen in Cleveland. Every team signs free agents hoping they will put them over the top. Why are you upset that it worked for them?

truth in all its forms
henderson, NV

I am sorry Doug that Lebron wanted to play for a winning franchise like the heat and not the Utah jazz. It is to bad that a player would want to play for a winning team. I cant understand why any player would ever want to do that.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

I've never been a LeBron James fan either. Not because of how he pushed to build the current team around him. There are other players in the league who have done similar things. I just can't stand his attitude that he is destined for greatness and everyone just needs to get out of his way or jump on his coat tails.

truth in all its forms
henderson, NV

@ 2 bits "Maybe free-agents should be put back through a free-agent draft, where the teams who need them can get them, instead of the teams with the most money that want to build an all-star team." I'm sorry but I want my free agents to be free, not slaves to the league.

OHBU
Columbus, OH

So many issues here. One that stuck out like a sore thumb is that Jordan did not pick up Bird and Magic to make his team. Bosh and Wade are good, but they're not in the same stratosphere as Bird and Magic. Maybe more like Pippen and Horry. The equivalent to what he's stating would be LeBron somehow getting on a team with players like Kobe and Durant. Then we're getting closer (and I only mean closer) to your analogy.

Additionally, Chicago and Cleveland aren't equivalent. Chicago is a large metropolitan area where players are happy to live--it always attracts talent. Cleveland? Not so much.

Finally, I still don't get all the hate for this guy. He's a team player, he's never had issues off the court, he prioritizes family, and his level of arrogance will never reach the same orbit as Jordan (seriously, the guy used his hall of fame speech to call out some kid who made the basketball team ahead of him in high school).

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Don't get me started....

No question Lebron is the best player in the NBA. Ok that's settled. Now about the NBA in general and how it creates these mega-millionaires right out of high school. I stopped watching the NBA for the most part after Stockton retired. Today there seems to be more and more "LaBron's" who have nothing more than a high school education(which you can tell when they are interviewed after games) and yet they are built up to be these larger than life super stars which giant endorsement deals to go along with there 200 million in salary. It says something about America - how shallow and empty the culture is today - and how the younger crowd (age 18-28) tend to know everything about the LaBron's and the pop-stars but ZERO about the country they live in let alone it's history. Creating these uneducated mega stars is a dangerous game because it cheapens the things that really matter while wildly exagerating the value of a guy that can dunk the basketball. I guess this is why so many pro athletes go broke soon after their ball-skills leave them.

Mister J
Salt Lake City, UT

re: Fitness Freak

[LeBron James has a "supersized big gulp" ego sized problem.]

Sadly, James & his buddy Manziel are par for the course these days.

goosehuntr
Tooele, UT

Business move? Hmmmm.... I'm with Doug on this one. "Taking less money, to make a great business move... what's best for his family???? Let's see.... 5 million less from 20 million equals still... 3 squares and a place to sleep. Comparing us taking less money to do what we do versus them taking less works out differently for us... especially without the endorsements. Loyalty to money and self v.loyalty to team, fans and organization is the difference between the Heat and Spurs. You choose which one best represents integrity.

It stinks to me. To me they have become a team that is fun to see lose. Sorry...Go Spurs! ( and anyone else that plays them for that matter.)

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