I know there is a feeding frenzy by the media and cougar fans regarding
BYU's current lack of conference affiliation. I think it is overblown. I
would like to see BYU in a conference in the new college football paradigm,
however, their current football independence is not as dyer as many are making
it out to be. As the great Yoda once said, "Patience my Padawan
Warrior." It will come together in due time.
SoonerUte,The Mountain is gone because BYU is gone. All of the ad time on
the mountain was bought up by Utah businesses. When Utah left and even more so
when BYU left, the mountain became an economic impossibility. If BYU were still
in the MWC, the mountain would still be alive and kicking out really inferior
video resolution and commentary.
"How is this worse than what we had???"BYU could have been on TV
just as much under the new MWC TV deal (Mountain is gone).Scheduling is
front-loaded. The "good" games are in September, and have to be.BYU could have scheduled the same big name schools in September as part of
their MWC non-conference schedule.Nothing to play for in November vs
playing Utah State for the title.
ConcinnityRichfield, UT@ gdog3finally:What good
does it do to have a schedule full of very good opponents if you can't be
competitive with it? Utah has given us the clear answer to that question...
which is, it does no good. -----------Where I thought you'd
call him out was over the schedule. Since when, before, during or after, has
anyone had a good schedule in the MWC? At least by Utah's new lofty
standard? Utah certainly never did.The question, gdog, was "How
is this worse than what we had?" The answer is, "It isn't."
@Concinnity"What good does it do to have a schedule full of very
good opponents if you can't be competitive with it?"One
example, look at Stanford's record from 2002 to 2008 and then look at where
they are today...There are other PAC-12 examples but this should suffice.
"It's the end of the world as we know it...and I feel fine."
"The former defensive coordinator went on the attack last week in an
interview with the Austin American-Statesman." -- Brad RockThat
didn't sound to me like a coach going "on the attack". That
sounded more like a coach "begging for mercy".
@ gdog3finally:What good does it do to have a schedule full of very
good opponents if you can't be competitive with it? Utah has given us the
clear answer to that question... which is, it does no good. Utah
plays a very tough schedule each season but finishes with a losing record each
season and hasn't been to a bowl game in years. They brag about their
conference affiliation but obviously are in over their heads. It
makes much more sense to play a more moderate schedule with a few ranked teams,
which then gives a chance at some national recognition while also being able to
finish with a winning record and going to a bowl game. BYU has been
doing that for years and spends much more time nationally ranked than Utah does,
in spite of losing that single game to Utah the past few years. That scenario
has also allowed BYU to keep playing while Ute players are home checking their
TV schedules.That same scenario has also worked well for both Boise
State and TCU for over a decade. Ute fans are in no position to be criticizing
@AFCougNow realityIt takes "two to tango" or in
this case to schedule games.Schedule 3 PAC-12 teams each year.
Reality - other than USC and Stanford's traditional games against ND all
other PAC-12 teams do not schedule games once conference begins. Schedule 3 MWC
and American conference games probably the same issues. As proven, on an
individual basis there may be opportunities for teams to schedule BYU; however,
to annually agree to play the same independent? Highly unlikely especially on a
home/home basis. Reality - members of conferences have few games to
schedule against other teams and when they can it is attractive to schedule
teams from other conferences (conference pride, comparative strengths etc.) ie.
the only reason the PAC-12 and BIG did not formally agree to schedule an annual
game between all conference members was because that would only give SC and
Stanford 1 game each year to schedule an additional opponent. This
is reality and this is the reason after next year there will be 3
"independent" teams ND, Army, and BYU when historically over 50 teams
have been independent at one time or another. Independence? As
Bronco pleaded..."BYU would love to be in the Big 12."That's reality.
We would love to be in the Big 12 IF we don't have to play on Sundays, we
get to broadcast 130 live sports events on BYUTV each year AND our football
games get as much, or more, exposure as they do now. It would be a step
backwards to join a power conference only to reduce our viewership in football
and other sports. When Steve Cleveland and Fresno State basketball came to BYU
and sold out, The Mountain West didn't broadcast the game and refused
permission for BYU to show it. At that point, I decided that Independence was a
great idea. Now people can see our games everywhere, all the time. BYU may
well be the most watched athletic college athletic program in the world. =)
So if things get worse for scheduling what choices does BYU have. They are
already scheduled to play 7 away games in 2015. I do like the teams BYU is
playing but we seldom get a home and away match up vs. the top tier teams.
Although their away schedule is awesome their home schedule leave something to
be desired. I also like their availability on TV. You can certainly watch more
BYU games then Utah games. The way I see it money is still the great divide and
who gets that money in college FB makes no rhyme or reason.What if
BYU were to go back to the Mtn West. It served Utah and TCU very well beating
up all the no names on their schedule. They played 2-3 important (and winnable)
games each year and got into the Big 5. How about a scheduling agreement with
both the PAC-12, MWC and American conferance. If you schedule 3 teams from each
conferance every year you fill in the blanks with another Big 5 team, a CUSA
team, and Div 2 team. That would give a decent schedule with several good home
games each year.
@Here's the Truth"Once again a reporter fails to grasp
simple logic. Just because A > B > C, it doesn't mean that B sucks.
It just means that A is better than B. There's nothing wrong with wanting
something better for your players." You are flat wrong.A >
B > C This statement says that B is between A and C; there is no better or
worse. Nor does A > B > C state how close 'B' is to A nor how
close B is to C...and that is the real question. If being an independent, let us
assume 'B' truly is better than being in 'C' MWC, then how
far is 'B'yu from C? How far from 'A'?Stop
drinking the Kool-Aid, college athletics is shifting and changing. BYU, through
no fault of its own is being left behind. Coach Mendenhall's comments show
that he is aware of that too. As a sports fan, my heart goes out to all you
@benjoginkoBecause your 'diverse schedule' is full of bad
opponents (two thirds worth).
I still prefer Independence to being in the Mtn. West. We get to play a more
diverse schedule and I can watch the games on TV. How is this worse than what
Once again a reporter fails to grasp simple logic. Just because A > B >
C, it doesn't mean that B sucks. It just means that A is better than B.
There's nothing wrong with wanting something better for your players.