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Published: Monday, June 9 2014 10:10 p.m. MDT

Updated: Tuesday, June 10 2014 6:21 a.m. MDT

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Here's the Truth
Park City, UT

Once again a reporter fails to grasp simple logic. Just because A > B > C, it doesn't mean that B sucks. It just means that A is better than B. There's nothing wrong with wanting something better for your players.

benjoginko
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I still prefer Independence to being in the Mtn. West. We get to play a more diverse schedule and I can watch the games on TV. How is this worse than what we had???

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

@benjoginko

Because your 'diverse schedule' is full of bad opponents (two thirds worth).

81Ute
Central, UT

@Here's the Truth

"Once again a reporter fails to grasp simple logic. Just because A > B > C, it doesn't mean that B sucks. It just means that A is better than B. There's nothing wrong with wanting something better for your players." You are flat wrong.

A > B > C This statement says that B is between A and C; there is no better or worse. Nor does A > B > C state how close 'B' is to A nor how close B is to C...and that is the real question. If being an independent, let us assume 'B' truly is better than being in 'C' MWC, then how far is 'B'yu from C? How far from 'A'?

Stop drinking the Kool-Aid, college athletics is shifting and changing. BYU, through no fault of its own is being left behind. Coach Mendenhall's comments show that he is aware of that too. As a sports fan, my heart goes out to all you cougs.

AFCoug
Colorado Springs, CO

So if things get worse for scheduling what choices does BYU have. They are already scheduled to play 7 away games in 2015. I do like the teams BYU is playing but we seldom get a home and away match up vs. the top tier teams. Although their away schedule is awesome their home schedule leave something to be desired. I also like their availability on TV. You can certainly watch more BYU games then Utah games. The way I see it money is still the great divide and who gets that money in college FB makes no rhyme or reason.

What if BYU were to go back to the Mtn West. It served Utah and TCU very well beating up all the no names on their schedule. They played 2-3 important (and winnable) games each year and got into the Big 5. How about a scheduling agreement with both the PAC-12, MWC and American conferance. If you schedule 3 teams from each conferance every year you fill in the blanks with another Big 5 team, a CUSA team, and Div 2 team. That would give a decent schedule with several good home games each year.

Blue Cougar
Oak Harbor, WA

We would love to be in the Big 12 IF we don't have to play on Sundays, we get to broadcast 130 live sports events on BYUTV each year AND our football games get as much, or more, exposure as they do now. It would be a step backwards to join a power conference only to reduce our viewership in football and other sports. When Steve Cleveland and Fresno State basketball came to BYU and sold out, The Mountain West didn't broadcast the game and refused permission for BYU to show it. At that point, I decided that Independence was a great idea. Now people can see our games everywhere, all the time. BYU may well be the most watched athletic college athletic program in the world. =)

Who am I sir?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@AFCoug

Now reality

It takes "two to tango" or in this case to schedule games.

Schedule 3 PAC-12 teams each year. Reality - other than USC and Stanford's traditional games against ND all other PAC-12 teams do not schedule games once conference begins. Schedule 3 MWC and American conference games probably the same issues. As proven, on an individual basis there may be opportunities for teams to schedule BYU; however, to annually agree to play the same independent? Highly unlikely especially on a home/home basis.

Reality - members of conferences have few games to schedule against other teams and when they can it is attractive to schedule teams from other conferences (conference pride, comparative strengths etc.) ie. the only reason the PAC-12 and BIG did not formally agree to schedule an annual game between all conference members was because that would only give SC and Stanford 1 game each year to schedule an additional opponent.

This is reality and this is the reason after next year there will be 3 "independent" teams ND, Army, and BYU when historically over 50 teams have been independent at one time or another.

Independence? As Bronco pleaded..."BYU would love to be in the Big 12."

That's reality.

Concinnity
Richfield, UT

@ gdog3finally:

What good does it do to have a schedule full of very good opponents if you can't be competitive with it? Utah has given us the clear answer to that question... which is, it does no good.

Utah plays a very tough schedule each season but finishes with a losing record each season and hasn't been to a bowl game in years. They brag about their conference affiliation but obviously are in over their heads.

It makes much more sense to play a more moderate schedule with a few ranked teams, which then gives a chance at some national recognition while also being able to finish with a winning record and going to a bowl game.

BYU has been doing that for years and spends much more time nationally ranked than Utah does, in spite of losing that single game to Utah the past few years. That scenario has also allowed BYU to keep playing while Ute players are home checking their TV schedules.

That same scenario has also worked well for both Boise State and TCU for over a decade. Ute fans are in no position to be criticizing it.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

"The former defensive coordinator went on the attack last week in an interview with the Austin American-Statesman." -- Brad Rock

That didn't sound to me like a coach going "on the attack". That sounded more like a coach "begging for mercy".

SEC Rules
Seminole, FL

"It's the end of the world as we know it...and I feel fine."

KYUte
Louisville, KY

@Concinnity

"What good does it do to have a schedule full of very good opponents if you can't be competitive with it?"

One example, look at Stanford's record from 2002 to 2008 and then look at where they are today...
There are other PAC-12 examples but this should suffice.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Concinnity
Richfield, UT

@ gdog3finally:

What good does it do to have a schedule full of very good opponents if you can't be competitive with it? Utah has given us the clear answer to that question... which is, it does no good.
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Where I thought you'd call him out was over the schedule. Since when, before, during or after, has anyone had a good schedule in the MWC? At least by Utah's new lofty standard? Utah certainly never did.

The question, gdog, was "How is this worse than what we had?" The answer is, "It isn't."

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

"How is this worse than what we had???"
BYU could have been on TV just as much under the new MWC TV deal (Mountain is gone).
Scheduling is front-loaded. The "good" games are in September, and have to be.
BYU could have scheduled the same big name schools in September as part of their MWC non-conference schedule.
Nothing to play for in November vs playing Utah State for the title.

GJ
Greenwood, IN

SoonerUte,
The Mountain is gone because BYU is gone. All of the ad time on the mountain was bought up by Utah businesses. When Utah left and even more so when BYU left, the mountain became an economic impossibility. If BYU were still in the MWC, the mountain would still be alive and kicking out really inferior video resolution and commentary.

mufasta
American Fork, UT

I know there is a feeding frenzy by the media and cougar fans regarding BYU's current lack of conference affiliation. I think it is overblown. I would like to see BYU in a conference in the new college football paradigm, however, their current football independence is not as dyer as many are making it out to be. As the great Yoda once said, "Patience my Padawan Warrior." It will come together in due time.

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