Alcohol is a million times worse than pot, If she had nicotine she would of been
sicker than a dog or in the hospital. Prescription drugs is the cause of death
more than car accidents. She should of done her research before she wrote or did
A. the story is hilarious. Thanks for sharing it.B. Marijuana is 10,000
times safer than alcohol.Even having a bad "trip", All
she wanted to do was feel the courdorouy of her jeans, and she
couldn't even get up to get a drink of water, let alone drive a
car, full of kids, 90 mph, down the wrong side of the freeway.Fix
the labeling, Legalize it, regulate it, and tax it.
Hasn't it already been unleashed? What about the "War of Drugs"
that is killing thousands each year? There are costs to continue prohibition,
too. Are the relative costs being weighed, or are we only getting one side of
I recall well when Cocaine was the drug that was harmless.
I can't help but think what a lop-side, agenda ridden article this is.Let's do a one-for-one, side-by-side, apples-to-apples
comparison.If she bought a bottle of tequilla, and drank the
enitre bottle, and had a "bad" experience, would it even
make the news?
This raises the real concern with edible cannabis, and its not with adult
journalists, but with the danger that a child will see a "candy bar" and
wolf it down with disastrous results! The dangers of alcohol are
much less, since no 6 year old in his right mind would voluntarily down an
unlocked liter of gin.Its almost the exact same situation we have
with guns, they are fine with responsible adults, but should be kept out of the
reach of children.
airnaut -"Fix the labeling,Legalize it,regulate it,and tax it."Right on man.And if
you're ever in a social situation where people are passing around a candy
bar, just take a tiny bite.Peace out.
"Dowd’s experience shows that, in the hands of an unsuspecting person
who looks on it as candy bar with a little bit of a kick in it, it can recreate
your personality in a deadly way." i think thats a bit of a stretch and
relies on fear and shame rather than real data. this would never pass as
scientific evidence of these effects. one person, self report. and
"deadly"? did someone die?
I love how the pro-legalization crowd always goes back to the straw man
arguments of "well it's better for you than alcohol", as if the
laws of the universe require that we must have one or the other. Guess what?
They're both bad for you, and neither one has any upside. They should both
be illegal. And don't give me the next straw man argument that lots of
people will smoke it/drink it anyway so therefore both should be legal. Lots of
people commit tax fraud as well but I don't see a big push to make tax
Semi-Strong said: "I recall well when Cocaine was the drug that was
harmless."Uhhh what? Not since coco cola sold it as brain
tonic?1.2 grams of pure cocaine will kill an adult vs 5lbs of
marijuana smoked in under 5 minutes, good luck.5000 years of recored
history with this plant, I think the testing phase should be complete.Not
toxic.Doesn't kill brain cells.Isn't a gateway.Lets evolve already, not every one wants to destroy their body with
pharmaceuticals that have more warnings than advantages.
@Brave Sir RobinSan Diego, CAGuess what? They should both be
illegal. 10:11 a.m. June 9, 2014======= Guess what? You tried that with the 18th Amendment, and it was
repealed by the 21st Amendment.Thanks for trampling the United
States Constitution.BTW -- I don't drink alcohol, tea, or use
tobacco or pot.I'm merely defending the Constitution of the United
States.Conservatives should try that some time.
The pot of the 60's is not the same as the pot today. My son was smoking it
at least 3 times a day (unbeknownst to us) and he became psychotic and manic.
His body cannot handle pot. In his state, he did some really stupid things that
almost cost him his freedom, his education, and not one of his so-called friends
stayed around. Legalizing pot is the stupidest possible solution. Our lawmakers
want to simply for the money. I propose we make every single lawmaker smoke pot
3 times a day for a month and then ask them how they feel.
Seriously -- This is 2014, I felt like I'm reading a review of
the 1936 movie "Reefer Madness".The only thing missing was
the guy playing the piano...
Bennett's been smoking pot apparently. Ms. Dowd misused marijuana and felt
the consequences, yet was still able to dictate her op-ed the following day. In
the same week, a young Utah man misused another product for which Mr. Bennett
has never advocated restrictive sales and died. He will never see adulthood. Mr.
Bennett remained silent on that event, but compelled to echo Ms. Dowd's
experience. If one advocates eliminating pot because ignorant consumers overdose
and experience discomfort, then please remain consistent and likewise weigh the
consequences of unrconstrained gun ownership. To do otherwise is inconsistent
The liberals are funny. They tell us how safe Marijuana is at the same time
that we see more stories about people that are high killing other people. It is
called "splash damage". Yes it doesn't kill the user, but the
users sure seem to be killing the people around them.These are the
same liberals who cry for gun control whenever somebody is killed with a gun.
Why is it that we should control guns, yet loosen controls on Marijuana?
Don't liberals think that murder is bad? Or, do liberals only think murder
is bad if it is a gun that was the weapon, and not due to somebody that is high?
@airnautAs your post proves, constitutional amendments can be
repealed. The 21st amendment needs to be repealed and prohibition returned.
That is, unless you can show me what the benefit of alcohol is (i.e. how it
makes people smarter, healthier, kinder, or benefits society or the environment
in some way).
"The dangers of alcohol are much less, since no 6 year old in his right mind
would voluntarily down an unlocked liter of gin." --Liberal Larry.Suggest further research on this issue. Documented cases have occurred
whereby a child has consumed a large quantity of alcohol usually with added
sweeteners and colouring.
I am disappointed in Mr. Bennett and the DesNews for such a sensationalized and
misleading article.YES, fix the labeling. I can wholeheartedly
support that. But to claim that we should by saying things like
"That’s how we currently deal with an even LESS DANGEROUS DRUG,
TOBACCO" (caps added for emphasis) is just misleading. Mr. Bennett, where is
your research or citation pointing to studies that confirm your wildly
inaccurate claim. Frankly, this article sounds much more like
hyperbolized scare tactics than trying to inform the public.
Happy Valley Heretic,Not true (and I am not quite that old anyway).
In the late 70s or early 80s I read several articles purporting that cocaine was
not addictive. That it was just something to get you high with few side
effects.Every so many decades an old drug cycles back into vogue.
The dangers of yesteryear have been forgotten and the drug now seems
redeemed.As to history with the plant. At the plant's current
strength? And, at what kind of exposure?Agreed reference
pharmaceuticals. This is just one that comes in plant form. Natural does not
If you as a consumer ate something that made you sick, it is really your fault.
I have no sympathy for this columnist. Pot already exists so the fact that she
got some in Colorado is irrelevant, she could have just as easily got it in her
home state, which is why the "legalization" question in this op-ed is
irrelevant. People can eat too much marijuana legal or illegal.Fact
is people stuff their faces all day with Fast Food and die from heart related
issues. Know what? You have the right to do that. I dont' care about
comparisons with alcohol or cigarettes. The merits of Marijuana stand on their
own, it should be legal because the war on drugs is immoral. The war on drugs
is government overreach.
Anything that makes a person hallucinate and alters their mental state is
definitely NOT harmless. If there are legit medical uses for marijuana, then
doctors should be able to prescribe it, and it should be controlled like strong
pain killers are. One more point: If you need drugs of any sort
(including alcohol) to socially relax or enjoy yourself, you are mentally ill
and should seek psychiatric help.
Airnaut are you and "Open Minded Mormon" same person.I also
noticed you are in Colorado... I suspect you are very happy with the laws
regarding pot use in your state, so why do you care about Utah?On
the other hand, I will continue to watch the headlines coming out of Colorado of
pot users being involved in shootings, and other mayhem..
Hard to believe some of the things I am reading here. "The war on drugs
should be illegal." Really? It is amazing to see so many people get
defensive over some negative press that marijuana got. As if anyone should be
surprised. What happened is not the woman's fault and
Bennett's article is not a piece of sensationalism. What we have here is a
real problem that, as with so many other things in our society, people wish to
explain away or justify, usually blaming conservatives as behind the times and
out of touch. People who indulge in or wish to indulge in such
dangerous, criminal activity (yes, dangerous and criminal) LOVE it when such
activity is proclaimed to be legal. It all of a sudden becomes "ok."
Yet, the nature of the activity has not changed. The damage it does is still as
potent or more so because now it considered to be "safe." Supporters of
such measures, typically with the loudest, screeching voices, although often not
in the majority, are placated but then belittle and even harass anyone with an
opposing view. Revolting indeed.
Stoners love to defend their pot, but like most things they do, they don't
think through the implications of their selfish decisions, nor do they consider
the health hazards to others. There's been no FDA approval of this drug,
just a wellspring of sentiment. And then when mistakes occur, they laugh, or
their advice as though it's a legal prescription that everyone should just
know. Then again, their priority is getting high, not social responsibility.
This article makes me feel like I'm back in the early 70s in "Health
Class" in Idaho.They actually showed us the "Reefer
Madness" movie as if it were fact.I already new the
"facts" were absolutely false.Prohibition of alcohol and
weed is, and has, proven to be a huge waste on tax dollars and a huge detriment
to the economy in convictions of users.The point of using tobacco
and alcohol as a comparison is only to point out the hypocrisy of pot laws.I'm not aware of any case of a person dying from a pot overdose.
Hunting is recreational.Skiing is recreational.Hiking up to Doughnut
Falls is recreational.Bicycling is recreational.Swimming is
recreational.People die right here in Utah almost daily from
recreation.======= FYI --Average annual deaths in
Utah -- Legal drugs -- 532guns -- 430automobiles --
380Marijuana -- ZERO.Enough said.
No one in his right mind would ever tell us that marijuana is good for us. It
may have a medicinal use in a tightly controlled environment, but that drug is
not proven safe. Those who tell us that because "they" can handle it,
that society should accept it should show the proof that "they" were
tested in a tightly supervised "control group" and that doctors proved
that marijuana did not alter their ability to function as well as those who did
not use marijuana. As for those who play the devil's advocate the use of
anything that harms the body or the spirit, do they think that the devil will
return that favor on judgement day?
@airnautHere is some Cconstitutional history."Brave
sir robin" had nothing to do with the 18th amendment.Conservatives had
NOTHING to do with the 18th amendment.The people behind the 18th
amendment were progressives and women, especially mothers.The weak
willed liberals were the ones the repealed it.Not even one
generation of our children were raised without alcohol in society.So
we do not know it would have worked.We do know the the principles
were correct, the people did not have the will. Again the
conservative had nothing to do with it, one way or another. We do
know that in passing the 18th and 21st amendments the constitution was followed
and respected.It is the liberals and progressives today who are
trampling the constitution by not following it or any law. Just look at
obamacare or the bergdahl situation. This administration has no love or respect
for the law or the constitution.Our country would be much better
without alcohol, tobacco or illegal drugs.Perhaps statutory law is
not the best way to achieve it,but more education and making it a real negative
and uncool thing to partake. But legalizing is worse.
Marueen tried it, Bob. You should, too. Read the label.
You're right on, Senator Bennett. We don't need this stuff in our
society. We already have enough problems. I wonder if those that support
liberalization of drugs would agree that anyone caught driving under the
influence of marijuana would have their driving privileges permanently revoked.
O the ideology of it all.
What astounds me about the pro-marijuana crowd is their consistent ignorance of
the research behind this drug. They have an attitude that can only be described
as rationalizations mixed with straw-man comparisons. This is a potentially
dangerous drug and it causes long-term and accumulative negative affects on
one's cognition and personality. It is hard for me to imagine such
lemming-like appeal for this drug among liberals but I do agree with them on one
point; if they want to destroy themselves, they can choose to do so. What they
can't do is to pretend to believe that there is no consequences for their
coleman51: "This is a potentially dangerous drug" the word potential
makes all the difference though.A gun is potentially dangerousA pet
is potentially dangerousReligion is potentially dangerousGet
over your self righteous need to control others, the research has been done
again and again. When your legal pharmaceuticals are at least as safe as pot, we
can discuss "potentially dangerous" otherwise science has proven thatthis plant is not the boogieman you want it to be, sorry but it isn't.Some prefer a martini after work to a psychotropic cocktail that is as
addicting as heroin, and fully half of this state is on one or 2 of these
mommies little helper pills. To each their own I suppose, but don't pop
your daily happy pill while talking badly of something God created and gave to
man more than 5000 years ago.
To "LDS Libertarian" actually there are many deaths every year due to
marijuana. They are like most deaths due to alcohol. It isn't the drug
itself that kills, but the side effects that kill. You have many who die doing
dumb things while high, and you have many that die in car accidents.To say that marijuana is safe only ignores the fact that when people alter
their brain chemistry, they do dumb things. People do enough dumb things when
sober, do we really need more people killing themselves and others while high?
It's an argument for strict regulation just like alcohol. You have to get
the light of day on drugs, not force them into the shadows.
I voted for Colorado's pot legalization but I'm not a user, nor do I
drink alcohol, but think both should be treated equivalently. But edibles are a
legit issue that to sort. Consider: alcohol has 3 primary delivery
systems: beer, wine, and liquor. Anyone who drinks has a pretty good idea of
how much of each it will take to get buzzed, drunk, or black-out wasted. Pot
edibles have no such commonly understood 'standard' for routine
consumption/effect.Yes, they have labels about the amount of active
ingredients but practically they are candy bars, truffles, cookies, etc..things
we eat as a whole, right? It runs counter to our current eating
habits to slice a truffle into 8 pieces, eat only 1 of those and then wait an
hour to see what happens. For better or worse, Americans are conditioned to be
both impatient and glutinous...we'll eat the whole thing in one sitting,
like Dowd did.Retail edible sales/consumption will standardize,
comparable to the beer/wine/liquor spectrum of serving size and potency.
Regulations may even require outlandish colors (ex. pink brownies) to allow easy
rules to teach kids the differences between good treats and bad.
Government has to be pragmatic. In the case of Prohibition and its repeal, we
chose the lesser of two evils. Both have negative consequences, but it was the
opinion of the American people that legalizing the consumption of alcohol was
less damaging to the Republic than trying to prevent it.It
wouldn't surprise me that we've reached a similar low point with
regard to marijuana. The point that ought to be taken from Senator
Bennett's column is that if - or when - we do legalize it, we need to put
appropriate safeguards in place to minimize the damage it causes, at the very
least the unintentional damage.
Well The D.N. monitors are at it once again. Anything to keep the uniformed
masses in the dark! First. Imagine if Ms. Dowd drank an entire bottle of tequila
the first time she tried alcohol. Assure you that she would be begging for that
marijuana experience all over again. Second. As a child I remember trying a
cigarette for the first time. Couldn't imagine if I would have smoked the
entire pack. Third. Marijuana never kept me from earning two Ivy League Degrees
and graduating at the top of my class.
There is a six month backlog of rape test kits in Utah while the criminal
justice system processes hundreds of marijuana possession cases every month. Consistently, 70-90% of AARP members polled want legal access to
marijuana. The people who have to take the most prescription pills are the
fastest growing group calling for legalization while the makers of the pills are
paying more than anyone to keep it from them. Top 7 financial supporters of
Partnership for Drug Free kids are makers and sellers of pills. Orin Hatch
accepted nearly $900,000 from them in 2012.More Americans age 30-64
are trying pot now than in their college years. Why are adults using it more?
Because it provides better relief and they control the dose. It reduces their
alcohol intake and reduces their reliance on dangerous prescription pills.Nearly 1 in 5 Californians has tried marijuana for a medical condition.
92% of them said it provided the relief they wanted. JAMA Internal Medicine
published in August that states with legal access to marijuana have reduced
painkiller overdose deaths by an average of 25%.