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  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    June 10, 2014 9:10 p.m.

    ECR.... see the problem is, we have a whole segment of society that lets others decide their morality for them. Instead of having standards of their own, they simply react to what others have done, constantly lowering the bar.

    Wrz.... so should we hold people who use drugs in jail without being charged indefinitely until the war on drugs is over? You are willing to let the government declare wars on ideas... then lock people up based on these "wars". And when exactly did congress authorize the declaration of War on Terror?

    I think you are confusing rhetorical wars with real wars. We were at war with Afghanistan. We were at war with Iraq. We were never at war with Muslims.

  • wrz Phoenix, AZ
    June 10, 2014 1:04 a.m.

    ECR
    "- How long should we hold prisoners of war at the prison in Guantanamo without prosecution?"

    Until the war against Islamic terrorism is over... which is almost never.

    Roland Kayser:
    "If President Obama had not brought Bowe Bergdahl home, the right would be screaming for his impeachment for leaving our POW behind."

    No. They're screaming about giving up five extreme terrorists. What about giving up one for one?

  • wrz Phoenix, AZ
    June 10, 2014 12:36 a.m.

    embarrassed Utahn!:
    We all know what a 'bang-up' job George Bush and Cheney did, right?

    Let's see... Democrats supporting Bush/Cheney in Iraq... Hillary Clinton, John Karry, Joe Biden.

  • ECR Burke, VA
    June 9, 2014 7:48 p.m.

    HaHaHaHa - No, I don't expect the Taliban to live by the terms of the Geneva Convention, nor does anyone else. But I did expect our nation to abide by those terms along withy other civilized nation.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    June 9, 2014 5:26 p.m.

    Re: "Get something for these prisoners or just release them. Which is better?"

    Liberal, true-believing, reality-denying, Obama-supporter bleating notwithstanding, those were never the only two choices.

    The fact that's all liberals can see is telling.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    June 9, 2014 4:41 p.m.

    To "LDS Liberal" you sent Republican kids off to die, twice?

    Or are you saying that you died twice?

    Or were you a Republican twice, and a Democrat once?

    Or did you sign up Republicans for the military twice?

    I can't tell what you are trying to say.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    June 9, 2014 4:36 p.m.

    To "airnaut" you should turn of MSNBC, they have lied to you. The fact is that in in the few months before Bush left office he negociated a deal with Iraq to withdraw the troops. Those troops were withdrawn exactly as Bush had agreed to. Obama did nothing other than follow the agreement that Bush made.

    Actually Obama didn't get Bin Laden. The Navy SEALs did, and they did it using information that was obtained using methods that Obama campaigned against using.

    FYI the economy has not turned around, we have the lowest job participation rate since Carter, and have yet to get DOWN to Bush's unemployment average.

    It isn't a matter of "Republican good, Democrat" it is a matter of freedom good, socialism and oppression bad.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    June 9, 2014 4:29 p.m.

    @Esquire..... the funny thing is Fox even ran a piece yesterday that countered just about everything Patriot said. Must have been a great day on the Beck\Limbaugh investigating hour today. Fox actually placed doubt that any of the deaths had anything directly to do with the captured soldier.

    But it is amazing how the "rush to judgement" crowd seems to have all these facts all of a sudden... they know exactly what happened, what his motivations were, where he was, and his feelings toward the Taliban. It is simply amazing. They seem to know even more than those who were on the ground. They have charged, tried and convicted this guy all by themselves....

    @lost..... the first deployment of US Military aid happened November 1, 1955 whenPresident Eisenhower deploys the Military Assistance Advisory Group to train the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. Unless I have my sequence of presidents wrong.... Truman had nothing to do with the war itself. He had everything to do with aiding in the liberation of Vietnam from the Japanese though. Different wars.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 9, 2014 4:07 p.m.

    @airnaut,

    You judge me a lot, but you're not very on target.

    I support what our military is doing in Afghanistan today as much as I did when Bush was President. It didn't change for me when Obama took over. It changed for the Sheehan types... My support didn't change.

    This trade, and the escalation in troop deaths after Obama took over... are the only things I have complained about. But I still think we did the right thing back in 2001 and I think we are doing the right thing getting out now (as long as we don't put the Taliban right back where they were back in 2001).

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    June 9, 2014 3:54 p.m.

    @Redshirt1701
    Deep Space 9, Ut

    To "airnaut" actually the Republicans are sending thier own kids to die. More Republicans sign up for military service than Democrats.

    ========

    I did - twice,
    You did not.

    That says all I need to know.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    June 9, 2014 3:42 p.m.

    @ patriot, please, turn off Fox.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    June 9, 2014 3:28 p.m.

    2 bits
    Cottonwood Heights, UT

    That's the irony I'm trying to point out... they protested the wars... right up until a Democrat took over the operation of the wars... then Silence... But the wars were still ongoing... boys dieing... just like when Bush was President.

    2:28 p.m. June 9, 2014

    ========

    That's the irony I'm trying to point out... you supported the wars... right up until a Democrat took over the operation of the wars... then whining and crying 24/7...

    Obama got us out, but it wasn't fast enough.
    Obama got Osama Bin Laden, but it wasn't fast enough.
    Obama turned the economy around, but it wasn't fast enough.

    The real problem in America today is you can not consciously objective.
    It's partisan, one-sided, biaed, and divisive.

    You can't see right from wrong,
    It's always Republican good, Democrat bad -- no matter what.

    and THAT'S where I'm taking issue with you guys....

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    June 9, 2014 3:19 p.m.

    No one who has children in the military should ever vote for a Republican president. Republicans are quick to start wars and don't believe in returning POWs home as the conflict is ending.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    June 9, 2014 3:14 p.m.

    This was more than just a "bad trade". There is something deeply corrupt and very troubling about what Barack did. Let's review...

    1. Barack skirted around the 30 day notice with congress over any prisoner exchange. Even Democrats in the Senate were furious with this one.
    2. Barack lied (along with the State Dept) about the status of Bergdahl. Bergdahl was NOT sick. The reports were over 6 months old concerning his health.
    3. Team Obama mislead the American people regarding the status of Bergdahl calling him an honorable soldier. Bergdahl's team and his commander all condemned him calling him a absolute diserter and a possible traitor. These soldiers have THE best intel on Bergdahl seeing that they commanded him and served beside him. Bergdahl's fellow solidiers ALL said recently that calling Bergdahl an honorable soldier was "a spit in the face" of every serving soldier.
    4. Bergdahl sought out the Taliban - he was NOT captured by them. Bergdahl renounced his ties to the American military and instead joined the causes of the Taliban. Bergdahl's father also praised the Taliban and called for the release of all Taliban killers held since 911.

    DISGUSTING !!

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 9, 2014 2:28 p.m.

    @Ralph

    Re: "I was't aware the Obama had a ranch"...

    Ummmm... it's not funny if you have to explain it. Do I really need to draw you a picture?

    I'll try... Sandy Sheehan and her followers set up tents and pledged to camp out at George Bush's Texas ranch until he ended the wars. But the tents came down as soon as Obama was elected.

    The wars didn't end... in fact, Obama immediatly escalated them. And yet... Sandy Sheehan and the rest of the protesters just disapeared.

    So evidently they weren't really protesting the wars (because they were still going on, and even more troops were deing than before after Obama took over)... and yet... no protests from Sandy Sheehan and the other anti-war protesters (which turned out to just be anti-Repubulican demonstrators... because they quit protesting as soon as a Democrat took over the wars).

    That's the irony I'm trying to point out... they protested the wars... right up until a Democrat took over the operation of the wars... then Silence... But the wars were still ongoing... boys dieing... just like when Bush was President.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 9, 2014 2:25 p.m.

    my_two_cents_worth
    no, it was Truman who first got us involved in Vietnam – the escalation was under JFK and LBJ. Nixon (R) got us out.

    There you go,
    Notice the word “apparent”. Sorry if “apparent” confuses you.

    BTW...
    Dems apparently only honor military service that can be judged/investigated/approved, solely through Dem Media Outlets and Echo Chambers.

    It is no longer only apparent that the Dem Political Machine, as well as those who vote/buy them into office, will blatantly attack anyone who can't be convicted of being a Dem true believer...

    It is an absolute fact.

    Grover,
    You are OK with the powers that controlled Afghanistan when we were attacked on 9/11 re-assert themselves and repeat the attack? Really!!???

    BTW, BO left Iraq under the timetable BUSH established, so BO is NOT the one responsible for getting us out of Iraq. BO tried to negotiate to STAY LONGER!

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    June 9, 2014 2:20 p.m.

    Always fun to see the leftist nuts get riled up. I wouldn't make this many excuses for the anointed one, if I liked the guy, agreed with him and got paid for it. Pathetic how hard you aimlessly work to defend a fool who doesn't have a clue.
    Laughable to see the foreign policy experts, and Geneva Convention experts go on about what is right and wrong. Laughable to see that they believe the Taliban will be abiding that convention. According to your own expertise, when the war is over, they would have been handing back mr bergdal. We didn't have to trade anything!
    Keep making up those excuses, it gets funnier everyday. Heaven knows, with a liar and chief like this one, you'll have plenty to keep yourselves busy!

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 9, 2014 1:59 p.m.

    @GZE 9:09 a.m

    Re: "If you are going to condemn a President, remember Ronald Reagan"...

    It's kinda too late to worry about what Reagan did... He's DEAD!

    How about we deal with what's happening with the person who's President TODAY?

    And if you think nobody cared about Reagan's covert operations back then... you have another think comming.

    But that doesn't mean anything Obama does is all right!

  • ECR Burke, VA
    June 9, 2014 1:51 p.m.

    Redshirt1701 - I'm thinking that Richard D. Rosen, a retired Army colonel who now directs the Center for Military Law and Policy at Texas Tech University, whom I quoted in my post and who said the opposite of what you said, might have a better understanding of the facts. It is important to realize that the Taliban are different than al Queda and, in fact, were the ogvernment of Afghanistan when we invaded that country. As Colonol Rosen said, they are the defacto government of Afghanistan, they have been held for over ten years without a trial and without due process and by the rules of the Geneva Convention should be released when we conclude our wartime activities in that country in 2016. That is unless you think we should throw 65 years of precedence out the window and join the other rogue nations of the world.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    June 9, 2014 1:19 p.m.

    To "ECR" but the prisoners that were traded do not fall under the Geneva Conventions because they were not from Afghanistan, and when captured did not have a uniform that indicated who they were fighting for. In effect they were mercinaries, and have been treated as such.

    To "airnaut" actually the Republicans are sending thier own kids to die. More Republicans sign up for military service than Democrats. Plus, did you know that since Obama became President that we have lost more soldiers than during Bush's 8 years as President. It seems that the Democrats have even less worry about sending our soldiers to die.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    June 9, 2014 11:42 a.m.

    "...apparent desertion...".

    Why wait for proof when you can create a faux scandal based upon an apparent desertion.

    In a five day cycle, the folks at FOX News and Drudge went from celebrating the return of a soldier to castigating the soldier as a pariah.

    Why not wait for the soldier to be returned to his family?

    Why not wait for the military to investigate?

    BTW...

    Republicans apparently only honor military service that can be judged/investigated/approved, solely through Republican Media Outlets and Echo Chambers.

    It is no longer apparent that the Republican Political Machine, as well as those who vote/buy them into office, will blatantly attack anyone who can't be convicted of being a Republican true believer...

    It is an absolute fact.

  • Grover Salt Lake City, UT
    June 9, 2014 11:23 a.m.

    2B: The same President that got Bin Laden and ended the Iraq is now ending the one in Afghanistan war. What is left for the anti-war protesters to protest??

    PS. Her name is Cindy Sheehan and she is a Gold Star mother. She has a right to protest.

  • my_two_cents_worth university place, WA
    June 9, 2014 11:21 a.m.

    @Lost in DC

    Not OB apologists, just folks pointing out the hypocrisy on both sides of the isle.

    "His apparent desertion"

    Even Army investigators are not ready to make that charge and won't until they can complete their investigation. Innocent until proven guilty and all that...

    "you mean JFK and LBJ were conservatives when they sent our sons to Vietnam to die?"

    Eisenhower sent the 1st troops to Vietnam in 1955 and the first casualties occurred under his watch. Kennedy and Johnson, both in agreement with Eisenhower's "domino theory," continued the fight in Vietnam as did Nixon initially on assuming office. The last Democratic President to commit us to war was Truman and the war was Korea. Since Bosnia was a NATO operation I'm not sure you can give Clinton credit for sending us to war.

  • ugottabkidn Sandy, UT
    June 9, 2014 11:00 a.m.

    U.S. Intelligence gathered enough evidence to convict Osama Bin Laden's driver but cannot come up with any tangible evidence on the 5 Taliban that are being released. They have been in incarcerated for 10+ years. They would be released next year. The previous POTUS, released 500 from Gitmo of which at least 1 is implicated in the Benghazi attack. Not a word has been said about that. Ronald Reagan sent arms to Iran for hostages. The problem here is not the action but who took the action. If this soldier is tried, convicted of treason or desertion at least now he can face American justice rather than the alternative, which I must say reading many posts lately from conservatives is something they do not believe in.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 9, 2014 10:56 a.m.

    Maverick,
    I see you’ve discovered a system for dealing with pesky facts you do not like.

    how convenient you forget that the Taliban harbored and supported al qaeda. Makes your attack so much easier when you forget or ignore facts that do not support your position.

    We would be better off had BO been a one termer; I AM looking out for the good of the country.

    Schnee,
    Yep, I think that IS airnaut/open minded’s view.

  • Schnee Salt Lake City, UT
    June 9, 2014 10:43 a.m.

    @lost in DC
    "You should be GLAD they were sent there, otherwise your defense industry job would be gone."

    That'd be a morally bankrupt view to have...

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 9, 2014 10:41 a.m.

    Judging from the pictures of marines on fox news I can understand why we haven't been successful militarily for the last half century.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    June 9, 2014 10:26 a.m.

    @ lost in DC

    "you mean JFK and LBJ were conservatives when they sent our sons to Vietnam to die? We weren’t even attacked by the Vietnamese. You seem to forget we were attacked by those in Afghanistan. I guess that means nothing to you."

    You seem to have never even known who attacked us on 9/11.

    It wasn't Afghanistan nor was it the Taliban, but Al-Qaeda, a terrorist group. In fact, most of this terrorist group's members who attacked us on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia. So if we should have gone to war against anyone other than Al-Qaeda, we should have invaded Saudi Arabia.

    Also, prisoner exchanges have been going on for centuries. All wartime American presidents have participated in them. Have they all made extra sure that none of the prisoners exchanged had ever defected or expressed disenchantment with the war? Doubt it.

    Facts can be pesky things. Especially when your #1 priority is to make the President of the United States a one-term President.

    Never let the well-being of America get in the way of your partisanship!

  • embarrassed Utahn! Salt Lake City, UT
    June 9, 2014 9:39 a.m.

    Like arguing with idiots...

    I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
    George Bernard Shaw

  • Ralph West Jordan Taylorsville, UT
    June 9, 2014 9:38 a.m.

    Re: 2 bits

    I was't aware the Obama had a ranch, this is the first I have heard it mentioned. Could you let us know where that ranch is, as I would be interested in visiting it!

    "Where have ALL the anti-war protesters been lately? Quietly crawled back under their rock once Obama was elected."

    If that is what Got Obama elected twice, what does it say about the Republican candidates he ran against? But then again you only have a couple more years to wail and weep, then All the Anti-war protesters will crawl out from under their rock and do it again because nothing has changed, the Repubs. can only spout the faux rhetoric, and have done little to change the demographic of the last two elections. Say Hi. to Hillary!

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    June 9, 2014 9:21 a.m.

    The BO apologists are out in force today. Where is GaryO?

    ECR,
    His apparent desertion – at least walking away from his unit - indicates Barney Fifeism

    LD_ lib,
    His 6 year old would do a better job than BO is doing.

    airnaut/open minded
    you mean JFK and LBJ were conservatives when they sent our sons to Vietnam to die? We weren’t even attacked by the Vietnamese. You seem to forget we were attacked by those in Afghanistan. I guess that means nothing to you.

    No, you comment says you will ignore any justification for defending this nation to defend your blatant attacks on conservatives. You should be GLAD they were sent there, otherwise your defense industry job would be gone.

  • Henderson Orem, UT
    June 9, 2014 9:11 a.m.

    "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

    - Mark Twain

    Mark Twain couldn't have described this letter any better.

  • GZE SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    June 9, 2014 9:09 a.m.

    Sgt. Berdahl is an American. If he broke laws, they were our laws. If he broke faith, it was with us. We do not leave people to rot in foreign prisons. He is home; now we can decide if we need to prosecute him.

    People who claim he is worthless because he is not perfect (either accidentally or intentionally) embarrass me no end.

    And five Taliban generals is nothing compared to Iran/Contra. If you are going to condemn a President, remember Ronald Reagan. To this day, that is the most disgusting, and long-term damaging, thing ever done by a President of the United States

  • FreedomFighter41 Provo, UT
    June 9, 2014 9:08 a.m.

    Completely partisan letter. Apparently this Talbot values partisan attacks over the well-being of an American soldier.

    I'm guessing that had Romney won and don't the exact same thing this letter writer would be singing a completely different tune.

    Such a silly petty letter. You should feel ashamed.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 9, 2014 9:04 a.m.

    @airnaut,

    The other lesson learned is... that Democrats will protest and fight against war UNLESS a Democrat is President.

    Where has Sandy Sheehan been lately? Camping out in front of Obama's ranch?

    Where have ALL the anti-war protesters been lately? Quietly crawled back under their rock once Obama was elected. Because that's what it was all about. Getting a Democrat elected.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    June 9, 2014 9:01 a.m.

    Pokemon cards?

    Gee -- and Oliver North had to resort to exhanging 1,500 missiles to terrorists.

    Sign this guy up for book deals,
    Conservative Pep-Rallies,
    and give him his own TV show on FoxNews!

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    June 9, 2014 8:51 a.m.

    At first I got excited thinking that this way another Frank Overfelt letter. Then I saw that it wasn't. Anyone else wonder what this guy's credentials are? Why isn't he working for DC already? What insider information does he have since he appears to have all the answers? And who plays Pokemon anymore? That's so early 2000s.

    Anyone else find irony in him living in Lebanon, Missouri?

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    June 9, 2014 8:02 a.m.

    Mr. Merrill,

    Since you have such vast knowledge of the inner workings of prisoner exchanges - so much so that this could have been done "easily," I suggest you hop on a plane immediately and start handing out resumes to everyone in DC that you see. I'm sure the government could use your expertise.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    June 9, 2014 7:55 a.m.

    This letter is another perfect example of the devolution of the Republican party.

    This is one thing that should never have been politicized. Something everyone should have agreed is a good thing the President did.

    As has been pointed out endlessly, there are many precedents for this action every where in the world. Still rather than using those precedents to support the return of an American, the right chooses to completely ignore them and make comparisons like Pokémon card trading.
    Absolutely shameful.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 9, 2014 7:52 a.m.

    If President Obama had not brought Bowe Bergdahl home, the right would be screaming for his impeachment for leaving our POW behind. Now they want to impeach him because he brought him back. Our country has always done prisoner exchanges, George Washington did them with the British. We've done them in virtually every war. It is how we got John McCain out of Vietnam.

  • airnaut Everett, 00
    June 9, 2014 7:49 a.m.

    Lesson Learned....

    Conservatives will gladly send someone else's kids over seas to fight their wars,
    Conservatives will also leave them there if the next President is a Democrat.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    June 9, 2014 7:37 a.m.

    If the other guys have had your guy for five years, wouldn't that indicate that they also have the power to kill him - no matter WHO has the military edge in the conflict? I'm not sure the writer has thought this through. Maybe Pokemon cards don't reveal the whole picture.

  • liberal larry salt lake City, utah
    June 9, 2014 7:29 a.m.

    The following was from a 2011 CNN article:

    The Israeli government will "trade more than 1,000 Palestinian prisoners for one captured Israeli soldier."

    Maybe your son should school the Israeli's on how to get a good deal!

    A month ago conservatives, and veterans were savagely attacking President Obama for leaving American military members behind. Now that he has freed the last remaining POW they are criticizing every aspect of his efforts to get Bergdahl back.

    There is no sense of proportionality to the conservative's attacks. Bush gets a free pass on starting two catastrophic wars and Obama gets pilloried for bring back the last prisoner!

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    June 9, 2014 7:16 a.m.

    Israel has been making trades like this for decades. I often thought with those trades, the value of one Israeli soldier is worth a thousand Palestinians? This sends a remarkable lesson, one which opponents of this trade should think about. This is on top of a lot of other reasons and issues. Rather than continuing this Fox driven Salem Witch Trial (yet again), maybe folks should settle down and be more pragmatic, rational and empathetic. But, that's asking too much of the right wing that prefers the emotional satisfaction of attacking at every possible opportunity, no matter how ludicrous.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    June 9, 2014 7:15 a.m.

    Talbot, put down the pokemon cards, turn down the talk radio, hop off the web.... and do a little more deeper research on what is really going on in that part of the work. This is the same place where Osama Bin Laden was able to hide in near open view for over 10 years. This is part of the world where there are large swaths of territory that their own governments have little to no control over. This is part of the world where the Soviet Army had to retreat from in defeat.

    This is part of the world that when we find people of interest, it has become to dangerous to send our own troops in to get at these assets, but we adapted and now use drones to strike at these people. So if you think trading 5 Taliban was a sign of US military weakness, you have a lot more studying to do.

    When you trust a bunch of media talking heads versus people who have actually commanded military operations in the darkest part of the world, you need to reconsider your sources of information.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    June 9, 2014 6:57 a.m.

    Would you like to be the one "left behind"?

    We sent these men and women over there. Whatever his reason for walking away, he is one of ours and we should bring him home.

  • Ralph West Jordan Taylorsville, UT
    June 9, 2014 6:25 a.m.

    Re:Talbot Merrill

    I am wondering if it were your Pokemon playing son who was being held captive, would you still consider the deal as "embarrassing"? On the other hand you are right we could have used our military might and just take what was ours, but it was deemed more important to bring him out of captivity in a helicopter as opposed to a body bag! Remember in another time or another place this could have been your son or my son!

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    June 9, 2014 5:37 a.m.

    Pokémon?!
    Seriously?!

    I'm forever grateful you or your 6 year old is not President of the United States!

  • ECR Burke, VA
    June 9, 2014 5:23 a.m.

    Some questions for Mr. Merrill:
    - On what evidence do you base your comment that Bowe Bergdahl is a "Barney Fife"? Have you interviewed him? Do you know all the facts of the case or are you basing your opinions on the comments made by Congressman and Senators who previously backed a prisoner trade but now find it reprehensible, just in time to create a crisis before the mid-term elections?

    - How long should we hold prisoners of war at the prison in Guantanamo without prosecution?

    Article 118 of the Geneva Convention, which covers the treatment of military personnel, says that "prisoners of war shall be released and repatriated without delay after the cessation of active hostilities" which will come to an end in 2016. Taliban detainees, for whom we traded, would seem to have an argument for being repatriated following the end of hostilities in Afghanistan.

    "Afghani­stan is a party to the Geneva Conventions, and the Taliban represented the nation’s de facto govern­ment," said Richard D. Rosen, a retired Army colonel who now directs the Center for Military Law and Policy at Texas Tech University.

    Get something for these prisoners or just release them. Which is better?

  • embarrassed Utahn! Salt Lake City, UT
    June 9, 2014 5:14 a.m.

    Vote Republican then....

    We all know what a "bang-up" job George Bush and Cheney did, right?