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Published: Saturday, June 7 2014 6:08 p.m. MDT

Updated: Saturday, June 7 2014 6:08 p.m. MDT

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Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

I hope the Utes got a viable QB in either the Wyoming or Oklahoma kid. They really need someone who isn't a turnover machine to handle the ball.

There seems to be a lot more of the graduate transfer types these days. Does anyone know how long ago the rule was made? I wish the article had said something about that since it just feels so recent.

BYU really stocked up on quality receivers this year. I can't wait till the season starts.

evansrichdm
west jordan , UT

BYU also benefited from Jake Heaps transferring out of BYU. Talk about great talent no work ethic and you get nothing. Glad he transferred and it seems he may transfer again to a MW team.

RockOn
Spanish Fork, UT

Dick... see if you like this idea. The self-proclaim insiders-only club Power 5 Conferences should keep all of the transfer rules, but every student athlete in these Power 5 group can transfer to the lesser schools and NOT have to sit out.

Stang08
Southern, UT

I've said it before, I can't wait to have Ammon back in Thunderbird red. Why he ever transferred to BYU is beyond me. There is no way he was going to start there. Not with all the QB's they always have coming in. Now he'll most likely start and help us get to more playoff games. Looking forward to a great year in Cedar.

Stringer Bell
Henderson, NV

Evansrichdm

Not sure about the "great talent" thing with Heaps. He performed even worse at Kansas than he did at BYU. I think he was overhyped beyond belief and his talent never came close to his hype.

JD
Las Vegas, NV

The NCAA had to create a by-law because a certain team was contacting athletes while they were on their missions and not allowing other schools to contact them. So I don't think we can really include one of the QB's listed in the article, he really didn't transfer, he was recruited, oh the life of Riley!

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

Players should be able to transfer without penalty.

Coaches move on without penalty.

Players should be able to do the same.

Wookie
Omaha, NE

I think time will tell how these QBs will pan out. If I felt like I had enough talent to play at the next level (which I can't even imagine what that would be like), I don't think it would benefit me sitting behind a starter. I too would transfer. I look at BYU and Utah and how many QBs they have and I don't think I'd stick around unless I had a serious chance and they were developing me.

Go UTES!!

Duckhunter
Highland , UT

@jd

Great point. When the university of utah was busy recruiting jake murphy while he was on his mission it was obvious something needed to be changed. Of course the murphies admitted when they said in an interview in this very paper that dale picked jake up from the airport and drove him straight up to the university of utah to meet with kyle whittingham who was waiting for him there.

What an incredible admission of guilt and aknowledgment of hwo the univeristy of utah works.

ExecutorIoh
West Jordan, UT

I know BYU has a great online program, but it feels weird to have kids that are enrolled at other universities taking online classes from BYU for graduation credit, especially athletes. This isn't a small problem, I understand a lot of people are doing it. It has the potential to be a conflict of interest. While I have nothing against educating youth, something needs to be done if you enrolled somewhere else to limit BYU's online classes to non-credit only.

BlueNtheFace
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

@ JD

Completely false about Riley. Everyone in his family and his Logan High coaching staff knew that he was going to go to BYU post-mission. I heard it from Coach Anderson days after he left. No one at BYU recruited that missionary. His dad was the facilitator.

@ evansrichdm

Football wasn't the only reason Ammon chose to go to BYU, though a big part. He gave it his best to beat out Taysom but fell short --> Plan B. Riley N. saw something that attracted him to BYU as well.

Go Cougs!

ekute
Layton, UT

Duckhunter,
Administrators put a lot of pressure on college coaches to recruit game changing athletes...Roger Reid.

BlueNtheFace
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

@ ekute

Reid didn't last too long after trying that desperate strategy. I'm not sure there is a program out there that uses negative recruiting tactics as extensive as Utah does when it talks to a BYU/Utah recruit. Kwitt is a specialist. Don't throw stones, sir.

Go Cougs!

ekute
Layton, UT

BlueNtheFace,
My comment has nothing to do with negative Utah/byu recruiting but can you cite examples to backup your comment?

Braxton
ogden, ut

Hey Dick. I would love you to investigate and do an article to educate the readers how BYU is making it difficult for mormon athletes to be recruited because of the transfer issue. Coaches across the country won't recruit Mormons for fear that they will put all their efforts and money recruiting a mormon then have them want to go to BYU after the mission. BYU makes the walk on and transfer so easy and some coaches at BYU find grey areas to contact the missionaries. a coach at ASU, who is also Mormon has stated he won't recruit anyone BYU show an interest in for this very reason. How about an article on this subject.

Stringer Bell
Henderson, NV

Duckhunter, I believe Dale Murphy told his son to go to Utah because BYU didn't have anyone to throw the ball to him. A gritty defensive back and a running back coming next posing as quarterbacks.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Duckhunter:

"Of course the murphies admitted when they said in an interview in this very paper that dale picked jake up from the airport and drove him straight up to the university of utah to meet with kyle whittingham."

That sounded made up. So I checked.

That Doug Robinson article you were referencing ultimately said, "Because the Utes had not recruited Jake, they were able to offer him a scholarship in the fall. Upon returning from his mission, Jake, accompanied by his father, drove straight to a Ute practice session to observe, and that was that."

[re: "Doug Robinson: Utah turns out to be the right fit for Jake Murphy", Saturday, Aug. 20 2011]

Nowhere in that article did it state that they drove straight to the U "from the airport", and nowhere in that article did it state that the met immediately with Kyle Whittingham. And furthermore, it was very specific when it said, "Because the Utes had NOT recruited Jake..." [emphasis mine].

Yep. I was right. You made it up. How frantic and emotional of you.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

BlueNtheFace:

"I'm not sure there is a program out there that uses negative recruiting tactics as extensive as Utah does when it talks to a BYU/Utah recruit. Kwitt is a specialist."

Such as...? Can you back that up, or where you just saying whatever "felt good" to say? Because that would have been the "frantic and emotional" response. Let's see some facts.

Duckhunter
Highland , UT

@braxton

So let me get this straight, you think that because athletes want to transfer to BYU after their missions it is somehow BYU's fault? And you think BYU is making it difficult for other schools to recruit Mormons how? What is it BYU does that makes it "difficult"?

How about you provide us with support for that claim?

Also do you really think other schools make it hard for kids that want to transfer or walk on at their schools but BYU alone makes those things "easy"?

Really that was one of the more senseless posts I have ever read on here.

I think your bitterness stems from the fact so many kids that have gone on missions do want to transfer to BYU when they return. This is generally because they have changed as an individual while they were gone and if I had my guess most of them probably think it is the best place for them to find a wife more than any other factor but many probably want the BYU lifestyle as well. Nothing improper on BYU's part there, it is just desirable for those kids.

Duckhunter
Highland , UT

@ekute

"Administrators put a lot of pressure on college coaches to recruit game changing athletes...Roger Reid."

What does that have to do with kids tranfering after their missions unless you are insinuating that the university of utah is pressuring their coaches to recruit missionaries that already committed to other schools?

I don't recall Roger Reid having ever done that, can you give us an example of when he did?

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