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Published: Thursday, June 5 2014 12:00 p.m. MDT

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waikiki_dave
Honolulu, HI

It seems Gov. Herbet and AG Reyes made a premature decision to proceed with this appeal; the SCOTUS just denied a similar request made by the state of Oregon.

Is this just totally obvious to everyone but the state of Utah? The issue of marriage equality is a moot point with most rational thinking people. Only religious martyrs are carrying the cross to the bitter end on this one.

They will lose.

DrUte
Woods Cross, UT

This attempt to hold back the dawn is clearly an exercise in futility.

I am neither antigay or antistraight, simply a taxpayer, and this taxpayer believes we have better uses of dollars and time within the Office of the Utah Attorney General.

A rhetorical question: Isn't it about time to bring Utah out of the 17th century?

jcobabe
Provo, UT

The judges that ratified this whole mess must fully accept blame for disrupting and causing chaos and pain. For them to pretend to stand outside the fray and not confess their own part in this havoc is unconscionable. The polilitical leaders in Utah are doing their jobs. Let the legal process run its course. The people of Utah and the US will soon enough be able to judge for themselves where all this is taking us.

Tyler McArthur
South Jordan, UT

There are good reasons for our state to not recognize same-gender marriages. The state doesn't allow siblings to be married, or even first cousins. Why? Because of the obvious negative impact that it would have on children and the future of our society. Same goes for the children raised in same-gender households. Isn't it much too early to fully understand the long-run impact on generations of children growing up in a society where they are confused and experimenting with their own sexuality? The issue of traditional marriage is a moot point with most rational thinking people. A rhetorical question: Isn't it about time for Utah to lead the way in showing the world that family stability is really the hallmark of civilized and progressive societies?

Stormwalker
Cleveland , OH

AG Reyes: “Although the state recognizes the deep burden placed on families who must continue to wait for a final decision regarding their rights and those of their children..."

Let us put that into plain and clear language: "We know our position and actions are hurting Utah citizens, Utah families, and Utah children. We know it, and we don't care. In fact, if we can prevail in court we will make the hurt permanent, not temporary."

truth in all its forms
henderson, NV

This is also about state rights and standing up to federal activist judges. I have more respect for Gov. Herbert for standing up for the traditional family.

Frozen Fractals
Salt Lake City, UT

@Tyler McArthur
"or even first cousins. "

Actually it does, in cases where they cannot procreate.

"Isn't it about time for Utah to lead the way in showing the world that family stability is really the hallmark of civilized and progressive societies?"

Yes, so stop getting in the way of same-sex couples marrying and becoming those stable families.

mmtc
PARK CITY, UT

@Tyler McArthur, the State of Utah DOES allow 1st cousins to marry if they are over 65 or if they are older than 55 and the court determines they are "unable to reproduce".

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

This is a vindictive waste of resources, and totally unnecessary. I hope the state is asked to prove what harm has been caused by these 1300 married couples existing.

Stalwart Sentinel
San Jose, CA

If the DesNews had any sense of irony, the headline would read: "Pro-family" Utah Appeals, Seeks to Destroy 1,300 Families

Baccus0902
Leesburg, VA

"any decision by the highest courts that results in undoing what the district court has granted could be more disruptive than awaiting certainty and finality,” Utah Attorney General Sean Reyes said in a statement."

Mr. Reyes,

Let me offer you a trade you may like:

What about if instead of using the 1,300 SS married couples as scapegoats for your bigotry, why don't you use them as Guinea Pigs to make a social experiment?

This would be your chance to prove to Utah and the country that SSM is harmful to society.

However, If on the contrary, after a prudent period of time the sky doesn't fall, the horrors of the Apocalipsis don't make themselves present. Perhaps a humble apology and a withdrawl of all your appeals may help you to clean somewhat yours and Governor Herbert's name in history.

The 1,300 couples and their children deserve better than what the State of Utah is doing to them.
The social contract indicate that citizens give up some freedom and assume responsibilities in exchange for the protection of society (the state).

Are these citizens not fulfilling their side of the bargain?

5th Amendment
Salt Lake, UT

Two devout activist LDS judges (one a former stake president) who must know well the Proclamation To The World regarding the meaning of marriage and the natural family, have unilaterally decided to re-define traditional marriage. Not only for Utah but perhaps for the rest of the country. How ironic.

Me thinks folks doth protest too much with all the wailing and self righteous indignation. With a wink, wink and a nod, these judges have received no counseling, discipline, disfellowship or excommunication for going against doctrine and the lords teachings by re-defining traditional marriage from any of their church leadership.

Why not a wink, wink and a nod for everyone else who supports marriage equality?

Values Voter
LONG BEACH, CA

At times like this I'm reminded of the famous quote by Joseph N. Welch. Weary, disbelieving and fed up, he finally said:

"You’ve done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

Maybe someone needs to get this message to Governor Herbert and AG Reyes.

John 3:16
West Jordan, UT

Same sex marriage is a SIN. I am not trying to be mean but if you believe in the Bible and if it truly is true, then homosexuality is a SIN! You can't blame people who believe in GOD and his commandments for trying to defend the truth.

Larry Chandler
CEDAR CITY, UT

John, you are correct in your phrasing "If" the Bible is truly true, then you should definitely not marry someone of the same sex. In fact, if you do this, I will not support or attend your wedding (thought I may bake you a wedding cake). But if you are justified in believing homosexuality is a sin, then others, who may not believe the Bible is truly true, should have that same right to exercise and defend their version of truth.

Baccus0902
Leesburg, VA

@ John 3:16

"Same sex marriage is a SIN. I am not trying to be mean but if you believe in the Bible and if it truly is true, then homosexuality is a SIN! You can't blame people who believe in GOD and his commandments for trying to defend the truth. "

According to your beliefs SSM is a sin: Your belief is welcome, protected and respected.

Do you have the right to impose your religious beliefs in others who perhaps do not believe as you do? NO! you don't

Interesting your biblical quote:
John 3:16
"for God did so love the world, that His Son -- the only begotten -- He gave, that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during."

A simple unqualified statement, no pre-conditions, except believe in him . Did you know that perhaps "most" of LGBT in our country, according to this scripture, will not perish but will have aternal life. Since most LGBT in the U.S.A. believe in Christ. You may find us in the LDS church, Episcopal, Catholic, Unitarian, Quakers, actually in all Christian Denominations.

John 3:16
West Jordan, UT

@Larry
"Defend their version of the truth" There can only be one version of the truth. All I am saying if the Bible is true then those who believe in it have a right to defend what they believe in, without being called homophobes and stuff like that. It does not mean they hate people who are gay, they are just standing up for what they feel is right and what they believe.

Stormwalker
Cleveland , OH

@John 3:16: "Same sex marriage is a SIN."

Eating shrimp, lobster, catfish and pork is a sin.
Touching a menstruating woman is a sin.
Traveling more than a short walk from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday is a sin.
Not feeding the hungry or visiting those in prison is a sin.
Eating milk and meat at the same meal is a sin.
Cutting the corners of the beard is a sin.
Eating fat or blood is a sin.
Going to church within 33 days after giving birth to a boy, 66 days after the birth of a daughter.
Holding back the wages of workers overnight is a sin.
Mistreating foreigners is a sin.
And finally, "If any of your fellow Israelites become poor and are unable to support themselves among you, help them as you would a foreigner and stranger, so they can continue to live among you. Do not take interest or any profit from them, but fear your God, so that they may continue to live among you. You must not lend them money at interest or sell them food at a profit."

Ranch
Here, UT

@jcobabe;

These judges are doing their jobs. The 'chaos' was created when the rights of a certain group of citizens was place on the ballot.

@Tyler McArthur;

Shouldn't the state, then, deny marriage licenses to felons? Druggies? Adulterers going onto their *next* marriages? Abusers, liars, thieves, etc.? Why the hypocrisy?

@John 3:16;

"Same sex marriage is a SIN." ---- Then DON'T participate. MYOB, PLEASE!

“There can only be one version of the truth.” --- Who is to say yours is that “one version”?

“It does not mean they hate people who are gay, they are just standing up for what they feel is right and what they believe.” --- No, it means they are trying to FORCE others to adhere to their beliefs. You can’t see the difference?

Liberty For All
Cedar, UT

@StormWalker

As you may not be aware, there can only be one version of the truth. If all the other religions you mentioned were called into a room and read the Book Of Mormon, and prayed in sincerity about its trueness and being the work of the Lord, all would come away knowing the true church is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

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