@ Live From the SwampAre you kidding? Suffice it to say there is
absolutely no comparison between the leaders of the Third Reich and the Taliban.
Where is your real knowledge of history?
The last time the United States negotiated with terrorism, including for the
exchange of prisoners, Ronald Reagan was President. So based on the assessment
of this article, does the same characterization of the Obama foreign policy also
apply to Reagan's foreign policy? If not why? Is it because Reagan was a
Republican and Obama a Democrat? Republicans are entitled to negotiate with
terrorists and Democrats are not?
VST -"This Administration has released five of the most hardened
anti-American Taliban killers"The war is winding down, and
POW's WILL be released.The United States released thousands of
the most hardened Nazi anti-American killers after World War II.Was that thousands of times worse than trading 5 POW's for Bergadahl?
"This Administration has released five of the most hardened anti-American
Taliban killers, who are also wanted by the international criminal court for
their murderous brutality."This is how the five are described,
what are they charged with?Show me in the constitution (an arbiter
of our values), or international law where you are imprisoned for 13 years
because you are described as a criminal.It doesn't mean the
description is wrong it just means it's not a legal standing to incarcerate
someone once the war is over. In addition, "most hardened
anti-American Taliban killers". Anti-American, seriously? We invaded their
country, we blew it up, we killed their men, women, and children. Remember they
had nothing to do with 9/11.You all seem to forget We supported the
Taliban when Russia invaded Afghanistan (see Charley Wilsons war). My bet
Russians considered them anti-Russian terrorists. Now the shoes on the other
foot. They're Afghans, and always have been. They aren't
part of some large international ant-American cabal. They resist
those who invade. That doesn't make them good guys, it only makes them
I don't think that making Sarah Palin and the Duck Dynasty guy the stars of
your nationwide "Leadership Conference" makes anyone look too smart.
Obama would be wise to follow his own advice and stop doing stupid stuff.
This whole thing makes me very angry. This is not a republican vs. democrat
thing. All American’s should be outraged about this swap.It is
never acceptable to release terrorists. Period!To add insult to
injury, we swapped five evil people for one. Our prize, at the very least a
deserter and at the worst a traitor. Those on this page trying to justify
anything here should be ashamed. The end of this current presidential term
cannot come soon enough.
I repeat an earlier commnet -- It takes alot of nerve for those have
NEVER served in the Military, to be commenting and complaining about a guy
who actually ponied up, and did.IMHO -- that's the worse type
"Don't do stupid stuff" should be the moderating philosophy not
only behind foreign policy but also behind the recent appeal by Utah on the same
sex marriage ruling.
Republicans talking out of both sides of mouth:John McCain (R) told CNN
months ago, "let's exchange prisoners for our American fighting
man.” Sen. Jim Inhofe (R) "We must make every effort to bring
this captured soldier home to his family.” Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R)
"Bring him home! Bring him home!" Republican Reps. Lee Terry, Mark
Amodei, Joni Ernst--all "so happy" Bergdahl is coming home. Not
any more. This stuff is all erased from blogs. Orwellian hypocrites.
I'll bet that this is as much about shutting down Gitmo as it is about
@PragmatistYes, yes, we exchange prisoners at the end of a war. Oh,
wait! Did we release monsters like Hermann Goehring at the end of World War II?
No. We tried them and put them down like rabid animals. That should have
Ah Dan . . . Not doing stupid stuff is reasonable. It is certainly NOT a
sophomoric, frat-boy attitude. It is simply an application of common sense.You should try it. In fact the Republican Party should try it.It’s all about hope and change. I hope Republicans stop
doing stupid stuff . . . Like mocking the concept of not doing stupid stuff.It’s a change that make sense.I'm glad I could
Let me get this straight...Dan is implying -- President
Obama's foreign policy of arranging an American POW that was captured
during the BUSH Administration...is Stupid Stuff.BUT -- Invading 2 countries, killing 6,000 Americans, and 100's of
thousands of Iraqis and Afghanis, costing America $4 Trillion, and
not even getting the guy you said was responsible for it -- Osama Bin Laden --
is supposed to be considered SMART stuff?Seriously?!
Obama's latest statement: "It was important for people to understand
that this is not some abstraction, this is not a political football, you have a
couple of parents whose kid volunteered to fight in a distant land, who they
hadn't seen in five years and weren't sure whether they'd ever
pragmatistferlifeYou seem to believe that the only terrorism is in
Afghanistan, and that once we leave they will leave us alone. Do you not
realize that terrorist factions are all over the middle east, and likely the
world? Look at Benghazi. Look at American embassys in various places that have
been attacked. Look at all the other countries that have had terrorist attacks
happen. We have been at war with terrorists for decades now, not just after
911. Since the 1970s we have had airplanes hijacked by terrorists. It was the
major 911 attack that brought American heads out of the sand. Kind of like Dec.
7, 1941 did. To think or believe that we in the West are now safe from terror
plots and attacks is just asking for another 911. Hard to believe any American
can forget 2001 so soon.
So what are the solutions? if we have been negotiating for five years with
little success and if his health was deteriorating we are now in a difficult
situation. Allowing him to die in captivity would have been a far worse
scenario and would have sent a far worse message to our fighting men and women.
He may not have been a war hero but he, nonetheless, was a man in uniform.
SCfan, the war on terror may be a justification for the war on Afghanistan, but
we are in fact "at war" with the country of Afghanistan, and that war is
ending. The Taliban are local Afghanistan focused terrorists
who's aim is to control Afghanistan. They did not nor will they likely
ever execute terrorists plots against the United States proper. The
"war" on terror is not a legal construct it is a marketing phrase, not
to be confused with wars on countries like Afghanistan, Iraq, or Libya. We have no legal or moral standing to retain the uncharged Guantanamo
prisoners when we end the Afghanistan war simply because they have done nothing
against the United States except in response to our invasion of their country.
Will they continue their terror of Afghanistan after their return,
probably, but that's Afghanistan's problem. The same problem they had
before we invaded.
MaverickWe are and will be in a war with terrorists as long as we are
targeted by them, either here in the U.S. or our interests in other places.
That is a fact we can't ignore. Sometimes it may go hot, sometimes it may
seem to have gone cold. Nevertheless, it will continue after we leave
Afghanistan. What would it take to make people understand that? Another 911?
Is that what liberals need to justify military and intelligence organizations?
An attack every few years? I say lets keep our guard up and not have another
911 on our own soil or elsewhere if possible. As for the cost, it needs to
come from income taxes paid by people who work. What we need are more employed
people with higher paying jobs. Not exactly a legacy Obama will leave
behind.VSTI don't remember the Republican Party or anyone
for that matter making a big deal about Bergdhal. I wonder where Irony Guy is
getting this from. It ain't Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly as far as
I know. And I don't know of any politician who has fronted it either.
Well, that didn't appease veterans upset of the VA waiting list.What
will Obama try now? Let's hope he does some research on the problem this
time.Boneheaded decisions are becoming Obama's trademark.
@ SCfanSo basically you're suggesting that we're at a
state of perpetual war, huh?Has any country survived that? Why must we always be at war?Finally, how can we finance this
perpetual war when people like you refuse to raise taxes? Wars are expensive, ya
know! Can't wage endless wars without raising taxes!
pragmatistferlifeThe war is over? The war in Afghanistan may be
winding down, but the war on terror is still going on and likely will for as
long as the religion of Islam exists. You cannot equate prisoner exchanges at
the end of a war between countries as the same as this. This is a new war, not
against a particular country, but against a worldwide ideology. As I said one
that will go on for the forseeable future and we have just returned 5 of their
starting lineup back onto the battlefield.
Thus goes the great conservative flip-flop. Only months ago Bergdahl was the
poster boy of the Republican party. Once Obama tries to help, suddenly Bergdahl
is a traitor.Big Republicans are now literally erasing from their blogs their
former pleas for Bergdahl. Pardon me, Dan, if I don't see thundering
hypocrisy at work here. Please don't use your column to insult us like this
again. I have too much respect for you.
We have no idea what kind of secret deals are really going on. They are
secret.Secret deals by people with a clear track record of lying to
us. It really can't be good.Enjoy America while it is still
semi-normal because their are conspiring men out there who are bent on
History is a serious flaw of conservatives, they just can't get it in their
heads that actual history doesn't match what they've been told by
drop-outs on the radio, or in this case Dan, who consistently gets it wrong too.
"The Obama administration’s actions in the Bergdahl saga are
inexplicable, inexcusable. The President, by trying so hard not to do
“stupid stuff”, has backed us into a devastating and dangerous
foreign policy reversal"That is just plain uninformed (as usual)
Dan. We have exchanged prisoner at the end of every war. It's also a fact
that we would have to release these guys anyway in the not to distant future.
They have never been charged with anything, so our rational to hold them has
been the war itself.The war is over, despite what folks like Chris
Matthews say. We may have advisors and an embassy but the war is done, and so
is the rational for holding people without charges indefinitely.So
Dan this doesn't change in any way long standing policy of prisoner
exchanges at the end of wars. You are wrong..again.
You gotta hand it to Bergdahl: he does know how to get on the President's
I wasn't aware that we knew where Bergdhal was, but the Army just
didn't want to risk more lives for a derserter. And, I heard last night
that we may have also paid millions of dollars along with the release of
terrorist leaders, to get back Bergdhal. So what part of don't do stupid
stuff did the Obama administration not understand? And, this on the heels of
Obama having released many illegal crimminals back into American society just a
few days ago. Apparantly the domestic policy of don't do stupid stuff is
in play here too. My only hope and prayer for this country and its voters is
don't do stupid voting again. 8 years of Obama is almost more than this
country can take and Hillary is no answer to the mess we need to clean up when
this guy finally leaves office.