Anytime you criticize the Leaders of BYU and their Athletic Department they put
your comments on hold and eventually deny them... I mentioned that BYU would be
in the Big 12 right now if not for short sightedness and Lawyers who behave like
Goalies in Hockey... That was enough to kill the Post...I honestly
do not know how the FCC let's BYU and the Church get away with that
stuff... In my book, it is absolutely contrary to how we ought to be conducting
themselvesIt's good that Holmoe is on the Selection Committee
for Basketball... It's bad that he and Samuelson had not done a better job
in negotiating B12 membership.
Robin:I would also like to know when this phantom idea that BYU said no on
TV or anything besides Sunday play. As Kaladin said it's some folklore ute
fans and media execs who didn't like BYU during the MTN/cbs fiascos have
created. NO WHERE did the Big 12 say BYU burned any bridges with them. There
were discussions, but no one knows how serious, and BYU requested the Big 12 not
speak to the media about those discussions. I remember Holmoe and BYU speaking
appreciatively of the Big 12 honoring that request. I NEVER heard a single Big
12 official make any derogatory statements about BYU or bridges being burned. If
you have some credible source, please enlighten us.
Pretty sure he will have to resign. Afterall, the NCAA selection show is on a
Sunday. Committee members have to oversee the events, which half of the tourney
games are on Sunday.
@Robin - I'm still waiting for someone to show me a quote from somebody
involved with BYU or the Big12 that says BYU was ever offered a place in the
BIG12 but rejected it for tv purposes. A clue - it never happened. I don't
know who made this up, but U fans believe it to be the truth. It never happened.
Here's what I don't get. A few years ago BYU had friends in high
places (like the Big 12). All the gladhanding was already done. Then the Big
12 asked BYU to sell their HD truck and Holmoe said "thanks but no
thanks." And with that, the friendships ended.So why is Harmon
writing about BYU needing to make friends when they already burned all the
bridges with these same friends?The P5 ship has already sailed, and
BYU isn't on it because of their own doing.
@let's rollMany times we have seen Big East getting some 15
teams (well) in the ncaa tournament and some 1 or 2 teams advanced in the 1st
round was a joke. Those committies are doing what they are suppose to do but why
allow 6 or more teams in the same conferance get in makes no sense.Seeing Tom being one of new member of committies is peaking the perfect
timeing when BYU basketball team going to see more and more better players
between 2014 to 2020. Welcome aboard Tom.
Congratulations to Tom. This is a significant appointment.I would
expect Tom to be an advocate for the U to get in the tournament field if the
circumstance ever arises that the committee is deciding whether to put the Utes
in as the 7th team from the PAC-12.I can't think of anything
the Utes or their fans have ever done that would cause him to be anything but a
strong and willing advocate for the U.
I agree with the networking comments. People like Edwards and Tuckett were so
revered in the NCAA world that they increased BYU's chances of being
included. Shoot, Tuckett even went and ran the athletic department at Alabama
for a time. Holmoe can and must bring that same attitude back to BYU.
I'm a Utah fan but want to see BYU get in the BIG12. I state that up-front
because some Y fans like alphablue might not like the rest of this post….
but know it’s true. Picking up grid iron wins on a schedule
full of un-ranked teams, and in some seasons playing against cupcakes 50% of the
time, is not the recipe for getting noticed in the current football landscape
which is becoming more SOS focused. Sure it might guarantee a bowl game, but is
that the objective, or is long viability the objective? On-field
competitiveness with quality ranked programs is the key. Y fans can respond
with all the stats about BYU's string of ranked seasons, but who did they
really beat in those years? When was the last time BYU beat 2 teams in the same
season that finished the year ranked? Have they ever done it? Holmoe must improve the SOS and make every possible concession (excluding
Sunday) to get BYU in the BIG12. If Notre Dame decides to dive in the ACC 100
percent, inclusion in the BIG12 will be BYU's best bet for long term
college football survival.
Allhablue " We believe in our hearts that your only desire is see the
destruction of the BYU athletic program on a national scale as WE desire
it."As a Utah fan I certainly am not interested in the
destruction of the BYU, or any other, athletic program. Not sure why you or the
"we" you speak of desire it though.Go back and look at the
seeds those great teams of Majerus had. They were never that great either. You
accept the seed, don't whine and go play the game and don't try to
blame shortcomings on someone else.
It is sad there are many people that have been allowed to leave negative
comments on this article.Tom deserves our support and well being
instead the mention of politics and backhanded aims of him, BYU and the LDS
Church.What a great honor is has become for him to have this
leadership opportunity at this particular time. It only goes to show that Tom
has had an impact across the nation by his fellow ad's and others. I would also recognize that the AD of USU had some influence in his
being nominated for this post.....and SO WHAT if his opportunity for service on
this committee leads to other opportunities for BYU to achieve the success we
want as a University and Church.We know who the nay-sayers are. We
see the negativity you post anytime a success of BYU, it's coaches or
administrators are mentioned.We believe in our hearts that your only
desire is see the destruction of the BYU athletic program on a national scale
as WE desire it.That is so unfortunate....Shame, on on you. I hope
you have a better day than you want us to.
I am so over BYU athletics and the excuses for poor performance overall. Now
they need "friends" to make things happen. Why not be competitive and
let results do the speaking?
rj Norway"At least in the pros, despite all its faults, you
don't gain access to championships by rubbing shoulders with bigwigs. You
play it out instead."I cannot watch the thuggish, corrupted game
that the NBA has developed--except an occasional "FINALS" game. You must
have missed all the "blown" calls where the referees either protect or
cover for the benefit of players selling the most jerseys.When I do
watch a FINALS game, I always pull for the small market or underdog team. Yep.
This year I'll 'root' for the San Antonio Spurs since they are
This is another reason I'm liking professional sports more and more, and
college sports less and less. When politicking, cronyism and public opinion
supercede on-field performance in determining who wins what, it kind of
undermines the entertainment value in it all. At least in the pros, despite all
its faults, you don't gain access to championships by rubbing shoulders
with bigwigs. You play it out instead.BYU is adapting to the climate
and fighting battles in their own special way, but it's almost tragic that
it has to be so. I fear they will NEVER have a shot at championships in football
and basketball, not because they can't compete on the field, but because
powerful people don't want them to. That stinks.
You mean to tell us that politics are involved? Now, that's a shocker!
Chris B: BYU does not burn bridgess. BYU makes decisions that help bring its
unique brand to the world and to help further the goals of its owner, the LDS
Church. It is doing that very well. Too bad it does not accomplish what you and
other people, who do not really know what the university stands for, think that
it should. BYU does not really care what you think or what others think they
should do. BYU will continue to do what it must do to get their influence as far
as they can and make games available to as many people, including the many
alumni around the world, as they can. I applaud them for their actions and
support them 100%, whatever they decide to do.
As a bigger college basketball fan over college football, this job of being a
NCAA tournament selection committee member would be an awesome privilege if it
I thought that the 'BYU' brand spoke for itself. The ability to be a
national player superceded any need for conference friends. Didn't Mr.
Harmon, himself, amke a comparison of BYU to Penn State and Notre Dame this
week?I am so confused.
What Holmoe has been very candid about is how this entire upheavel has impacted
BYU athletics. All of Cougar Nation are very concerned about the future and
relevance of the BYU athletic program, and feel the footsteps heard at other LDS
Church owned schools over the past decade and longer.