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  • Kermit Kaysville, UT
    June 6, 2014 1:56 p.m.

    Good to see that the Utah State Aggies had the best defensive game against the Cougar's running attack last year, but sad that they lost! Their D couldn't hold them on all fronts, and our offense wasn't able to score enough against their great defense. Always a great battle of the brothers when these two teams come together!

    The past 2-3 years of victories, win/loss records, rankings, and bowl trips/non-bowl trips have caused quite the conundrum with regards to the state/status of college football teams in Utah! :). On any day, the Aggies, Cougars, and Utes each has the chance to beat the other. Couldn't be better, I'd say! The prognosticators can continue to prognosticate, but it all comes down to the preparation and what happens during the four quarters on the field. Ya gotta love it, baby! :)

    Go Aggies! :)

  • Stringer Bell Henderson, NV
    June 5, 2014 12:34 p.m.

    Cougar Colby "BYU and Utah are essentially the same program in football."

    No they are not.

    Wisconsin Cougarfan "BYU is a solid to great mid-major program, one that is better than the cellar dwellers in P5 conferences."
    Again, no they are not.

    You cannot compare a team that plays 2-3 P5 schools a year with each game preceded by a week off or one of your tin can Savannah State types. Utah and TCU have learned this the hard way. Playing a big time schedule week in and week out has been much harder than ever anticipated.

    And Colby, BYU was NEVER considered for PAC 12 inclusion. I don't care who your relative is or who they work with.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    June 5, 2014 12:06 p.m.

    littleperspective

    "It's the first week of June and BYU is a lock for the playoffs or at the very least, a New Year Bowl."

    And how is that different from Utah fans proclaiming that Utah was headed to the Rose Bowl before the Utes had played their first game in the PAC?

    Or now proclaiming that Utah is on the inside looking out at the playoffs?

    Utah has had two 11+ win seasons in their entire history and have never come close to qualifying for a bowl with a Top 40 schedule, so how do explain the unfounded arrogance oozing from the hill about Utah's bowl game and playoff potential.

    Don't bother with your lame "but we have so much more potential" argument, because, the truth is, Indiana has as much chance of winning the B1G and Vanderbilt has as much chance of winning the SEC, as Utah has of winning the PAC 12.

  • Kaladin Greeley, CO
    June 4, 2014 3:38 p.m.

    @ Wookie - Yes, BYU fans should hold themselves to a higher standard, but fans of other schools should not. Thank you for the criticism though. I do hope such incidents don't happen in the future.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    June 4, 2014 3:12 p.m.

    MR

    "I'm assuming these rankings take into account strength of schedule."

    You're assuming that SOS has anything whatsoever to do with the quality of a team.

    The absolute worst team in the country could have the #1 SOS; how would SOS make them better?

    The absolute best team in the country could have the worst SOS; how would SOS make them worse?

    SOS only demonstrates whether a team has been tested or not.

    According to your assumption, if the defending Super Bowl champs joined the college ranks and played the 125th worst college schedule, they wouldn't be good enough to be invited to the college football playoffs.

  • Perkunas Ashburn, VA
    June 4, 2014 3:06 p.m.

    Another BYU article, another sea of comments rehashing the same points they did in the comments to all the previous articles. Seriously, there is nothing original about throwing out the words 1984, the Sugar Bowl, PAC12, etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseam. Get some new material or go away. And if there's one area of the DN that should have the 4-comment limit, it's the sports section.

    The obsession of certain people who have supposedly "moved on" from the rivalry is all too revealing.

  • Brio Alpine, UT
    June 4, 2014 2:28 p.m.

    The article was well written and informative. But the comments afterward are even more interesting.

    Ute fans' fanaticism and obsession with all things BYU is in full display. There is no better way to actually pay homage to a subject. And in this case, it's BYU football.

    As Concinnity so aptly pointed out, the ongoing and never-ending comments from Ute fans on literally every BYU football article totally verifies the high and ongoing significance of BYU football. Nothing else demonstrates it so well.

    Thank you, Ute fans, for your obvious and ongoing high interest in BYU football, regardless of which side of the pendulum you are on. It will continue to pay dividends for BYU sports down the road.

  • Concinnity Richfield, UT
    June 4, 2014 1:42 p.m.

    @ Chris B:

    You of all people should not be criticizing BYU's post-season bowl game options. At least BYU goes to bowl games each year. The same certainly can't be said of your beloved Utes. Hasn't it been something like 3 years since they last qualified? To be honest, I don't follow the Utes nearly as closely as you obviously do the Y.

    But until Utah someday figures out how to once again go to bowl games, that's a subject Ute fans would be wise to avoid. Makes them seem a bit hypocritical.

    @ U-PAC:

    You criticize Steele for making predictions about a season that hasn't been played yet. Then a post or two later (you've made too many to keep track of), you yourself make predictions (negative, of course) about BYU's upcoming season (that hasn't been played yet). Can you spell hypocritical?

    It's downright funny to read Ute fans trying to downplay the significance of BYU football while they themselves unquestionably prove otherwise. Their own obvious and ongoing interest verifies BYU's high significance. They actually comment more on BYU articles than on Ute articles. Go figure.

  • KH Holladay, UT
    June 4, 2014 1:25 p.m.

    "It's hilarious how many of the same Utah fans who are whining about Steele's respect for BYU this season, were citing Steele as one of the most respected college football analysts when Steele had the Utes ranked highly in a previous College Football Annual.

    The jealous inconsistency on the hill never ceases."

    It must be equally hilarious to you that byu fans discredited Steele during that time and most of them are now singing his praises.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    June 4, 2014 1:20 p.m.

    upac

    ""BYU fans prognosticate BYU football greatness every pre-season, print t-shirts and posters galore........."Quests" for imminent Heismans and NCs every darn year..."

    The VAST difference between BYU fan prognostications and Utah fan prognostications of National Championships and Heisman Trophies is that BYU has actually been there, done that.

    It really gnaws at the kids on the hill that the closest Utah will ever come to a Crystal Football National Championship trophy and a Heisman trophy, are the ones sitting in BYU's Sports Legacy Hall of Fame.

  • Tators Logan, UT
    June 4, 2014 1:18 p.m.

    It's notable and even quite humorous to see the extreme interest Ute fans still maintain in all things BYU. Some even seem obsessed.

    U-PAC has made about 8 comments on this article already... more than any BYU fan, and even asks if he needs to say more in one post. My answer is a definite "no!"

    Wookie and a few others also seem quite taken up by BYU with their multiple posts.
    Even the very first post to this all-BYU article was once again made by another obsessed Ute fan.

    @ Wookie (and CougarColby):

    It certainly isn't ridiculous to say that Utah isn't fearful and somewhat apprehensive to continue playing BYU. Yes, Utah beat the last 4 games. But 3 of those games were by a single score going to the last minute of the game and with BYU having better overall performance stats than Utah. So it's easy to claim that Utah was somewhat lucky to at least a few of those games. One thing is for certain, only a single win was dominant.

    Utah AD Hill was smart to drop BYU from it's schedule until after Taysom is gone.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    June 4, 2014 12:51 p.m.

    It's hilarious how many of the same Utah fans who are whining about Steele's respect for BYU this season, were citing Steele as one of the most respected college football analysts when Steele had the Utes ranked highly in a previous College Football Annual.

    The jealous inconsistency on the hill never ceases.

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    June 4, 2014 12:48 p.m.

    Love the Cougars, doubt the Steele. If they simply improve 20%, I'll be happy. And that may be enough to win 9 games. More than that will take a Steele effort.

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    June 4, 2014 12:39 p.m.

    Best offensive lines. Based on what? Phil must be needing to sell some magazines in Utah.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 4, 2014 12:35 p.m.

    U-PAC
    Rowlett, TX

    Why thank you so much for paying serious attention to my facetious pipe dream. The part that is delicious, though, is this: you are correct in that conferences enjoy freedom of association. Restraint of trade is a different matter.

    Does a four team playoff where the participants are jerry-rigged by the same good ole boy conferences relieve enough pressure that a case could legitimately be made that "anyone could participate"? Possibly.

    I just think it is a delightful idea to follow the money. Want your national championship? Have your national championship! Want to keep it to yourselves? Sure! Help yourselves! But gut the money out of it and it becomes a much more interesting picture.

    The portrait in human nature is equally delightful. Three years ago, Utah was howling with all the other outside dogs about the injustice. Now they relish it. And make no mistake; most BYU fans will go strangely silent if by some twist of fate, we suddenly find ourselves on the inside.

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    June 4, 2014 12:21 p.m.

    U-PAC

    "BYU fans prognosticate BYU football greatness every pre-season, print t-shirts and posters galore........."Quests" for imminent Heismans and NCs every darn year.........then, once the season starts.......reality sets in. Need I say more?"

    Nope, just slap another PAC-12 sticker on your car and glory in doormat status. November 1st=Guaranteed win for ASU.

  • CougarColby Fort Benning, GA
    June 4, 2014 12:14 p.m.

    UPAC,

    You have no idea what you are talking about. Your opinion is not fact. I have a very close relative who works with Larry Scott. On his "big board" BYU was ranked higher than the U and Colorado in terms of athletic and academic quality when they were decided to add two new teams. BYU made much more sense due to national following, travel ability of fan base, and revenue generation. However, BYU doesn't fit culturally with the PAC12 and therefore the decision was made. I don't call it religious bigotry...they are an organization that needs to make the best decision for themselves. But those were the facts as related to me (from a USC alum, mind you).

    I can't comment on the BIG12 situation, but as I recall even ESPN ran a story about talks between BYU and the BIG12 (according to sources was were the article got its info). Specifically about the TV deal being the deal breaker. Once again, your opinion isn't fact.

    Your disdain for BYU doesn't validate your opinions and ideas.

  • MyPerspective Salt Lake City, UT
    June 4, 2014 12:10 p.m.

    Steven S Jarvis
    Orem, UT

    "Undefeated may get BYU into the playoffs.
    One-loss likely gets BYU into a New Year Bowl.

    Understand??"

    Yeah, we get it, Steve. It's the first week of June and byu is a lock for the playoffs or at the very least, a New Year Bowl. It's the same story with you people every year.

    What isn't lost of any of us, or on those selecting teams to participate in the bowls is SOS. Isn't independence and Holmoe's cupcake schedules grand? Enjoy the wins this year and the stellar slate of home games Holmoe has lined up. Just know that in the final analysis the only ones fooled are byu fans.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    June 4, 2014 11:43 a.m.

    @Chris B

    Peach, Fiesta, Orange and Cotton bowl are all in play for this first playoff season. They must take the conference champs that haven't made the playoff games (Rose and Sugar this year) of the AAC, PAC12, BIG10, BIG12, SEC and ACC.

    Let me make it simple Chris.

    Twelve teams play in the New Year Bowls/Playoffs. Six are champions. Six are at-large. There will be polls.

    Top four by rank are in the playoffs.
    Next three bowls must take teams in order of ranking (exception made to include the big 6 champs for this year).

    Undefeated may get BYU into the playoffs.
    One-loss likely gets BYU into a New Year Bowl.

    Understand??

  • Kaladin Greeley, CO
    June 4, 2014 11:25 a.m.

    1984 - BYU won the National Championship. Nothing anyone says will change that. There is no asterisk.
    Wookie - I was appalled when a few BYU fans acted in such a manner. But don't mistake that one incident for the general demeanor of all BYU fans at every game. BleacherReport ranks Nebraska fans #23 rudest. BYU is not in the top 25. Ask Niles Paul how great Nebraska fans are. A group of them followed him as he walked to his car after dropping two touchdown passes in a game. They verbally abused him in the most derogatory way possible. Really? Your own guy? Should I judge all Husker fans based on this incident? No. Need clarification?

  • anti BCS Anaheim, CA
    June 4, 2014 11:24 a.m.

    cb

    Unfortunately for U, you won't even be a two-loss PAC 12 team, in fact, you'll have to get very lucky and win a few games you have no business winning, in order to be a six-loss team to qualify for a bowl.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    June 4, 2014 11:21 a.m.

    U-PAC

    Religious bigotry in the PAC 12; disagreement on television rights in the Big 12. The other three P5s are simply too far away to consider adding BYU.

    Make no mistake, BYU is easily one of the Top 65 teams in college football, MUCH, MUCH better than the U overall athletically and in accomplishments on a national scale in football.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 4, 2014 11:17 a.m.

    Steven,

    byu has a 0% chance at any bowl but the very bad Miami byu bowl.

    Tell us, what "much better bowl" does byu have a chance of going to?

    LOL!

    At 11-1 or maybe even 12-0 you'd still go to the byu bowl.

    A 2 loss Pac 12 or SEC team would be taken over a 12-0 team with byu's horrible schedule.

    But we wont need to worry about that - you guys only talk of quests

  • CougarColby Fort Benning, GA
    June 4, 2014 11:16 a.m.

    Come on UPAC, you know that answer. P5 conferences have a hard time with BYUs no Sunday play. Blame it on whatever else you want, but that is the primary reason. It shuffles around to much in their conferences and they don't feel like a newcomer (BYU) should have that kind of power to change. Valid point.

    P5 schools don't want to come to BYU because it is not a good game for them. If they beat BYU, then they did what they were supposed to do. There isn't much of a reward. If they loose to BYU, then they loose a huge amount of capital and national notoriety. Look at Texas last year.

    I'll predict that you won't see many big schools come to Provo in the future due to these reasons. It is very High Risk, Little Reward to play BYU in Provo. I give credit to Texas for having the stones to do it, but you won't see them coming to Provo again any time soon. That loss scared a lot of P5 teams (not scared of BYU per se, but the potential of loosing in Provo).

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    June 4, 2014 11:05 a.m.

    @UPAC

    BYU has a legit chance depending on how the season plays out to go to a much better bowl or even the playoffs. The obvious thing is that BYU must win its games. If they go undefeated (not expected, but who knows) BYU will likely be in the discussion for the top four. Even with one loss they could be the at-large team for something like the Sugar, Fiesta or another "New Years Bowl" under the current agreement.

    Let's say that there are two undefeated champions besides the improbable BYU (FSU and Bama) and the PAC12 and Big12 each have double losses while the AAC has three. Ohio State wins the league with one loss. What happens?

    1 FSU plays 4 BYU
    2 Bama plays Ohio State

    AAC, PAC12 and Big12 champs are taken by the remaining New Year Bowls as contracted. Even if BYU isn't in the top four under this scenario they will be an at-large team likely headed to either the Fiesta or Cotton Bowl (bowl games BYU has already played in).

    If BYU goes X-2 a bowl in Florida isn't too shabby.

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    June 4, 2014 11:03 a.m.

    #22 in the nation is Top 25 and certainly more of an accomplishment than being UNRANKED!

    How do you know what the Bleacher Report takes into account?

    btw, which group of fans almost cost their team a game because they were so rude and out of control that they couldn't stay off the field until the game was over?

    When it comes to boorish fan behavior, NOBODY beats the U!

  • CougarColby Fort Benning, GA
    June 4, 2014 10:57 a.m.

    Wookie,

    You can't discredit BYUs NC any more than you can discredit the 30 years of NC before 1984. That was the system at the time. There was no BCS or NC game. BYU played some decent teams that year and was the beneficiary of other teams losing down the stretch. Were they the best team in the country in 1984...probably not, but they were a great team and they did everything that was asked of them to do...win.

    It seems only U fans try and discredit that NC. Nobody in the national media cares to discuss it because they understand how the system worked then. Was Utah seriously the #2 team in the country the year they won the Sugar Bowl? No, but they did everything that was asked of them and they were the beneficiary of winning. No qualms there, they deserve the ranking they got.

    Houston, USU, BSU, UCF and Cal are great games this year. If BYU gets 3-4 wins or possibly goes undefeated against them, they could crack a top 20 or so. Miami Bowl is still our only shot this year, but at least we will be in a bowl game, again.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    June 4, 2014 10:40 a.m.

    Mussingaround.

    So you're saying that #22 is an accomplishment? The Bleacher report doesn't take into account how amicable and welcoming the fans are. This is where Lou Holtz and Bobby Bowden both commented that Nebraska fans are the most gracious and best fans in college football. Attend a game in their stadium, you'll see exactly what I am speaking of. Attend a game at BYU and you'll see fans throwing things at refs (youtube video) and other outlandish behavior. Why isn't BYU more gracious and representative? Your comment about Tayson still doesn't disuade my comment about rushing yards.

    Go UTES!

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    June 4, 2014 10:18 a.m.

    Wookie

    More crimson jealousy. Most of Taysom's "scrabbles" were designed zone read options.

    -----------------

    On another note:

    Bleacher Report just came out with their list of

    Top 25 College Football Towns for 2014

    #22 Provo, Utah

    unranked SLC, Utah

    Sorry MUSS, but the ROC is eating your lunch now that the student section has been consolidated in LES.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    June 4, 2014 10:05 a.m.

    Inkspot, remember that the NC that BYU was awarded was played against a 6-6 Michigan team that wasn't even the best team in the Big10 at the time. I wouldn't pat myself on the back too much for that achievement. As for Detmer, in college, he was the real deal. Fun to watch and a great college QB.

    Go UTES!

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    June 4, 2014 10:03 a.m.

    One thing that Phil's article does not mention is that the rushing yards that were piled did not take into account when passing plays broke down and Taysom ran with the ball. This amounted to a lot of those yards. No doubt that BYU will be better, but to assume that they would beat the U given how well they have performed the last 4 years is ridiculous. I hope that the rivalry ends so that both sides can regain integrity and represent their respective institutions. Nebraska fans, a secular school, is considered the best college football fans in the USA. How does a secular school receive such a title when a school down south, who represents a faith, is not even mentioned?

    Go UTES!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 4, 2014 10:02 a.m.

    I highly respect Phil Steele and the research he publishes. I think the #15 ranking is a little rosey but I'm glad that Steele likes blue kool-aid. We need more respected analysts who give BYU their due respect.

    BYU is a solid to great mid-major program, one that is better than the cellar dwellers in P5 conferences. While they are on par with recently successful BCS busting programs like Boise State, TCU, Utah, UCF, and Northern Illinois, I think their history and tradition can't be ignored. Being a NCAA champ with some serious hardware (Heisman, Davey O'Brien, Doak Walker, etc.) should count for something, so the ACC/SEC snub hurt and was undeserved.

    BYU needs to do their talking on the field and this year is as good as any to get it done. Considering their position as an independent I think this years schedule is respectable and has enough difficult games that BYU will gain some momentum and respect if they win. But that is still a big IF. Go Cougs!

  • iNKSpot Wilsonville, OR
    June 4, 2014 9:49 a.m.

    At the beginning of the 1984 season, I was sharing with my friends my pre-season assessment of the Cougars' chances. With Steve Young gone, we had a new QB named Robbie Bosco; so, I did not give the Cougars much chance. One of them said that the offensive line was a lot more important than the QB. Three months later that Cougar team had gone undefeated and won the national title. A few years later I saw that Ty Detmer, as a junior, had four seniors and a junior on the offensive line. So, based on that 1984 experience, I figured that Detmer would either win the Heisman that year or not at all. We all know he won that year, and anyone who watched his senior saw Detmer throwing many of his passes from the prone position. I am glad to hear the Cougars have a great offensive line this year. These guys don't win many game balls and helmet awards, but they are definitely the lynch pin in a game perceptibly dominated by so-called "skill" players.

  • Ed Grady Idaho Falls, ID
    June 4, 2014 8:59 a.m.

    So Phil Steele likes the BYU offensive line - cool. Did he mention anything about Utah's bowl chances?

  • CougarSunDevil Phoenix, AZ
    June 4, 2014 8:44 a.m.

    "My opinion of Phil Steele and his feeble assessments are just that. BYU's O-line will be just "OK" this year. "

    Phil Steele's assessment or U-PAC's assessment. Boy those are difficult choices to choose from on whose analysis to rely on. This could take me awhile to choose.

  • CougarColby Fort Benning, GA
    June 4, 2014 8:32 a.m.

    U-PAC, thanks for understanding the difference between realistic fans and "overzealous" ones.

    But lets not get overly zealous for your squad. BYU and Utah are essentially the same program in football. The PAC12 is showing exactly how over-matched the old Mountain West was when we were there. The quality of play is much better and Utah certainly hasn't made that leap and I'm not sure they will. Heck, Arizona and Arizona State still haven't and they have been in the league how long?

    The problem that Utah has (much the same as Colorado)is that besides local players, who has ever dreamed of playing at the U? There is not a national following. So you are getting some really good local players (neighboring states too) and the rest end up being guys that the other PAC12 school overlooked. Generally, second to third tier players. Occasionally those guys end up being great and you will have good season, but for the foreseeable future I don't see Utah making much of a jump in the PAC12 on any consistent basis.

    Both fan bases need a healthy dose of "reality".

  • CougarColby Fort Benning, GA
    June 4, 2014 7:29 a.m.

    Lets be absolutely honest. I don't know why Dr. Hill didn't schedule BYU, but it isn't because they are afraid of loosing. Real BYU fans have no room to speak in regards to playing the U, they've got us 4 in a row. I for one will give them the credit they deserve for getting up for a rivalry and treating it a bit more important than most.

    Now as a football fan, I would rather be playing in bowl games then beating my rival (give that option), so I feel the gloating doesn't get them very far.

    The O-line is a mess and I don't care what Phil Steele has to say. Until the boys line up and prove they are better on the playing field, my mind hasn't changed. They aren't physical enough, it often times looks like they aren't prepared for certain plays, and I would question their work ethic. I think coach 2J looks promising, but we need the Roger French days.

    Prove it on the field boys, even 80+ starts with poor players doesn't mean anything.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 4, 2014 5:56 a.m.

    Michael Romney
    Salt Lake, UT

    Thanks for you kind and gracious thoughts. Here's a delicious counter proposal for you.

    Because of the rather severe, monopolistic restraint of trade being attempted by some conferences against some others, and since the conferences have demonstrated a willingness to share bowl profits among themselves, I think it's time for the Supreme Court to rule that ALL bowl profits be divided between ALL conferences. Equally.

    Of course, since independents don't enjoy the benefits of conference affiliation, they, and any bowl profits they may accrue, should be exempt.

    Cheers indeed!

    Back to the reasonable part of your comment, not sure if strength of schedule is considered. I suppose final actual rankings won't take SOS into consideration, so probably not. In that case, he may have severely under-rated every cougar unit. We won't know till they actually play the games.

    Yours is a rather novel suggestion - don't play the games at all.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    June 3, 2014 10:41 p.m.

    @Pac Pride

    Many of those so-called "power" teams are pretty weak and unable to make a bowl. What matters is that BYU has teams on its home slate that actually make bowls (7 bowl teams on the schedule). Would you consider a weak team like Cal a power team? How about Utah? They happen to be the teams the rest of their conference typically steamroll over. Power teams are the ones that make bowls not the ones who wash out year after year after year and can only get up for a game or two.

  • Pac 12 Pride Salt Lake, UT
    June 3, 2014 9:47 p.m.

    @Spokaloo,

    Ok, lets look at the next several years. How many total home games against power conference teams does byu have on the schedule each year for the next 2-8 years?

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    June 3, 2014 8:27 p.m.

    It looks like Z. Buster is here on the Deseret News.

    Aside from that, the last time the offensive line was rated so highly (I think it was in 2010) they ended up under-performing big time. I hope this doesn't jinx their progress.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    June 3, 2014 7:33 p.m.

    If Phil's prediction is accurate, just think how good this team can be. Hill is a solid QB who does damage on the ground and in the air. Solid WR's will be here this year. The running backs are stacked. If the O-line improves, this team could be very good. Phil knows his stuff. Two years ago he was on the radio in Nebraska and predicted Florida State would win the championship. He was off by one year. He knows good talent and teams.

    "I'm tired of the haters mocking and dissing on us because we can't seem to win consistently against the top."

    Let them hate. It's their fault if they don't think destroying Texas or BSU are not good wins. Texas has one of the best classes each year and was coached by a NCAA championship coach and BYU annihilated them. Two winning programs were embarrassed by BYU. Besides, if they didn't respect BYU, they wouldn't be here every day to post. Their love for BYU is evident by their consistent posts. Just smile and watch their passion for all things BYU!

  • spokaloo White Salmon, WA
    June 3, 2014 7:16 p.m.

    I am amazed in the world of power conferences that BYU has been able to put together an independent schedule. Cherry picking is easy for people to do. BYU obviously had a weak schedule it's first two years because of the quick move that required the WAC alliance. Last years schedule was very good as it ranked in the 30's nationwide by most SOS services. This years, at least on paper, seems easier. But hey, it's year 4. Scheduling is done 2-8 years out at times. BYU has some great schedules coming down the pike. To cherry pick this years and leave out what they have on the docket in the future is disingenuous.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 3, 2014 6:44 p.m.

    Ute fans and their schedule envy.

    Sheesh! LOL!

  • PGVikingDad Pleasant Grove, UT
    June 3, 2014 5:52 p.m.

    Michael Romney, you and I both know that there is not...one...single...program with greater significance to you than BYU, as evidenced by your THOUSANDS of posts on BYU-related articles on this board and elsewhere. As athletic landscapes go, BYU is clearly your Everest. Thanks for caring so much. Devotion like that is to be commended.

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    June 3, 2014 5:20 p.m.

    @Miguel,

    I hope you're here to play nice. I'm glad to see you're still interested in BYU. Their prowess still keeps you on these articles. That's nice to see. It is nice to see BYU is playing a mix of good teams in upcoming schedules, including this yr. I and many other cougar fans are very interested in the schedule and this season. It doesn't matter what the good doctor does. BYU football moves forward! Go Cougs!

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    June 3, 2014 5:13 p.m.

    I'm one who gave the o-line grief last yr. One of the reasons I did that is because I believe 2J and Anae are great O-line coaches. In their defense(pun intended) they got bit hard by the injury bug. Therefore they had no consistency and no chemistry. I hope every O-lineman read all of the negative posts sent their way and let that boil in them and motivate them to get better this year. It sounds like there was a lot of optimism this spring. Steele is right, that all of that experience last yr. will pay big dividends this fall. A top 15 O-line would be a dream. That would be like the 2001 or 2006/2007 kind of lines. If the O-line was just around 30 - consistently good - not even spectacular, it is going to be a special year. Go Cougs!

  • Midwestcoug Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 3, 2014 4:43 p.m.

    @ Romney

    He didn't mention SOS in the article so your BYU rant is quite inept. U wouldn't even schedule BYU this year because u're afraid of getting beat. So where does that leave you? With the other sour grape U commentators on all great things BYU.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    June 3, 2014 4:26 p.m.

    Whether they're #15 or #115 doesn't really matter. All I care about is that they perform well on the field and be wildly successful. I'm tired of the haters mocking and dissing on us because we can't seem to win consistently against the top competition in the nation. Hoping for much success this coming season.

    Go Cougars!!!

  • Legal Salt Lake City, UT
    June 3, 2014 3:31 p.m.

    Good luck to BYU and its fans. If he is right about the #15 you guys will have a blast this year!!

  • Michael Romney Salt Lake, UT
    June 3, 2014 3:21 p.m.

    I'm assuming these rankings take into account strength of schedule. So interesting we haven't seen Phil Steele's review of byu's schedule. The pathetic schedule shows byu's prowess, or lack thereof. It shows where byu stands in the college football landscape. Its time for Dr Hill to the few remaining Power 5 teams that have scheduled byu to never schedule them again.

    Cheers brothers!