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Published: Saturday, May 31 2014 7:30 p.m. MDT

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BrentBot
Salt Lake City, UT

Why does the Deseret News offer its printing facilities for free?

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Tribune Editor and Publisher Terry Orme's comments at the rally (reported it he story) exemplify why the Tribuen is failing as a newspaper.

Its management simply does not understand that a business will stay in business only as long as it it profitable, and profits come from providing goods or serviced that customers will buy.

If all the Tribune addicts who love it so much want to see it stay in business, here are some things they can do:
Offer to work for the Trib for free (or minimum wage) as reporters, editors, printers or in distribution.
Sell them ink and newsprint at cheaper prices. Rent them office space at cheap prices.
Buy extra copies of the paper. Give away subscriptions to your (soon to be ex-)friends and let them see what is in the Tribune.
Offer to pay higher prices for the Tribune.

See? It is simple to help the Tribune, if you really want to.

Of course, if the Trib started reporting factual news instead of leftist talking points and advocacy journalism, they might sell more papers, and reverse their plummeting circulation.

Tuffy Parker
Salem, UT

Sen. Jim Dabakis is mistaken that somehow there is an obligation for diversified news media in he SLC market. The obligation the newspapers have is to their owners to create profit.

Newspapers (and other news media) have always been and will continue to be free enterprise businesses who's sole interest is creating revenue through selling advertising. This is accomplished by providing content that creates enough interest by subscribers/viewers to view the news content who are then exposed to the advertising. It is really a simple equation and hope of altruistic motives are irrational and irrelevant as are rallies to promote such.

high school fan
Huntington, UT

I used to by the Trib everyday on the newsstand because I wasn't ever sure where I would be but about five years ago I just couldn't do it any longer. Now when I read it I remember why I don't buy it still. Definitely a newspaper that lost its way. To bad, I was a delivery boy for the tribune years ago.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@BrentBot
Because their combined profits are now split 70:30 for the Deseret News (that's where the perceived harm to the Tribune comes from, the belief that they will be handing over too much to be able to survive). The previous split favored the Tribune since they had the higher circulation.

bobdc6
park city, UT

Why does a church own a newspaper?

Cats
Somewhere in Time, UT

Dear DN Subscriber: My husband (a newspaper addict) used to take both papers. He cancelled the Trib about three years ago because he just got sick of the biased content and the anti-Mormon slant of the paper. He'd just had it and didn't want to waste any more of his time reading it. If the Trib is in trouble, they have no one to blame but themselves.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

Jim Dabakis I am singing an old song for you. It's name is Cry "Me A River."

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

Being critical is easy, but the Tribune is voice, even though fewer and fewer people care about that voice. It fills a role to show a contrasting opinion on Utah politics. Having two voices, one conservative and the other liberal, helps people to compare and to contrast. The rule that I follow is to ask, "What would happen if everybody thought that way?". Asking that question often puts me at odds with the Tribune and sometimes with the Deseret News. But reading the Tribune's liberal letters and editorials always reminds me that not everyone sees the world the same.

Amazing
In Utah, UT

The Tribune doesn't pay rental fees because that is part of the or used JOA. The DNews gets 70% of all advertising revenue that comes from print,,but but is responsible for maintainence and operation of the facility. The Trib gets less of a share, but also cut their operating cost due to not paying rent, nor paying for upkeep on the machinery at the print facility. In addition their owners were paid millions of dollars by the news when the JOA was renegotiated.

The Tribune asked for the new deal and was excited to sign it. Not sure how the DNews is the bad guy here.

Max
Upstate, NY

It used to be that I would go to the Trib first and see what was there. Then I would come here to the DN. That was my routine for many years. In the past year, I have noticed that I come to the DN first, then the Wall Street Journal, then -- If I remember -- I will glance at the Trib to see if there was anything worth reading. It was never a conscious decision. It just started happening. Now, I might go several days before it occurs to me to check the Trib. WHY? DN SUBSCRIBER's comment above is right on target. The Trib has simply lost its credibility. I'm not sure its worth saving. But if they want to be saved, they need to start producing a product that is worth reading.

biil
Salt Lake City, UT

The Trib's economic performance is comparable to local and regional papers that seem to be finding a path to sustainability. The killers, unique to the Trib, are owners (a hedge fund) that will not re-invest profits in the newspaper's digital future and a new amendment to the joint operating agreement amendment. Right now, the Trib only gets 30 percent of the revenue it generates with its partner, the Deseret News. From all appearances, the amendment is using anti-trust exemptions built into the Newspaper Preservation Act to further strategic business interests of both Alden Global/Digital First and Deseret News Publishing Co. The rally demonstrates community support for a Justice Department investigation.

A CLARIFICATION from Digital First: "New York, N.Y. (December 30, 2013) – Digital First Media today announced the MediaNews Group and 21st Century Media combination has been finalized and that the two Companies will operate under the Digital First Media name. The transaction, first announced on December 17, brings together the two companies jointly managed by Digital First Media under one name."

biil
Salt Lake City, UT

The Trib's economic performance is comparable to local and regional papers that seem to be finding a path toward a sustainable baseline. The killers, unique to the Trib, are owners (a hedge fund) that will not re-invest profits in a digital future and a new amendment to the joint operating agreement amendment. Right now, the Trib only gets 30 percent of the revenue it generates with its partner, the Deseret News. From all appearances, the amendment violates anti-trust provisions of the Newspaper Preservation Act. The rally demonstrates community support for a Justice Department investigation.

USA
Salt Lake City, UT

We take both newspapers at our house. Have done so for years. We value both. Each publishes stories the other doesn't. Taken together, one gets a more complete awareness of events and viewpoints in our community and state. They are equally important and enlightening.

truth in all its forms
henderson, NV

I hope that the paper does not go under. It is dangerous to only see the world through one view point. Utah needs both a liberal and a conservative paper.

LoveTheKittens
Central, UT

@bobdc6

Why doesn't every Church own a newspaper? Are they somehow excluded from 'Freedom of the Press'?

red.diehard
Central, UT

Why should the DesNews (Church) subsidize a poorly run company? Why should the DesNews (Church) not demand an equitable agreement with the Trib? Why does'nt the Trib just the DesNews (Church) that it can be profitable on it own and do everything itself? Why do all you Trib lovers come here to post your grievances and not BUY a subscription to the Trib?

A contract that does not make sense for both parties, is not a fair contract.

bobdc6
park city, UT

LoveTheKittens
Central, UT
@bobdc6

"Why doesn't every Church own a newspaper? Are they somehow excluded from 'Freedom of the Press'?"

Just like government, a church shouldn't compete with a private business.

Ett
Salt Lake City, UT

Some people nailed to problem without realizing it. Papers aren't supposed to be about "liberal" or "conservative" views. We have plenty of magazines, radio and tv shows for that purpose. Newspapers are supposed to be about news. They're [News]papers, not agenda papers. The Tribune stopped objectively reporting the news years ago. Their reporting is so slanted, they should change the name of the paper to the "Blame Bush" Gazette. The rally was a pathetic, misguided attempt to save the paper. It fails to address the real problem, which is people aren't interested in reading the Tribune. Rather than find ways to generate interest, the rally attendees played the blame game. Go ahead, stay on that path. If you listen carefully, you'll hear the sound of the Tribune sinking from sight forever.

wwookie
Payson, UT

If the tribune has people who want to subscribe and/or support financially, they will be fine. If the don't have the quality people want, they will eventually go under. That's how freedom and natural law work. Freedom of speech exists with or without the tribune. But the tribune can't decide what the consequences are if they decide to use that speech in a way that few want to hear what they say.

Personally, I prefer the tribune, but the online site of the DNews is much quicker loading between pages, so I read more DNews stories than sltrib stories as I spend about 15 mins per day reading each.

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