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Published: Saturday, May 31 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

Updated: Sunday, June 1 2014 9:27 a.m. MDT

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JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

Lots of studies, polls and opinions out there.

The key is finding the one that gives you your desired results and proclaim it as fact.
No sense in questioning a study that tells us what we already know (or think we do)

Stormwalker
Cleveland , OH

Interesting. This article goes to great pains to point out possible problems with the 2009 study, but simply states the findings of the new study as if there could be no questions about the data or data sources, the methodology or interpretation.

I'm a blogger. I could check a few online sources and declare I've done a study and start publishing my conclusions. And, if you like my conclusions you can dismiss the other studies and imply I must be right.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Found a loophole out of that one, eh?

Thid Barker
Victor, ID

One "research study" says Utah has high porn use and this new study contradicts that study completely! What does all this prove? Most studies conducted by people and organizations with an axe to grind or a political agenda are not worth the paper they are printed on! Dishonest and manipulated "science" is rampant!

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

"Edelman’s research focused solely on paid pornography subscriptions, rather than on pornography usage as a whole."

Probably that's the key difference which is why I don't think it's necessarily the case that one of the two numbers must necessarily be wrong. They just measure different things and the only errors come from someone not adequately portraying the context of the rankings.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

There is so much free porn available on the net, it surprises me that hardly anyone pays for it. Utahns are known for getting good value for their money so The 'fact' that Utah would be the highest in paid porn viewing would be out of character and a bit surprising.

LDS Libertarian
Farmington, UT

Regardless --

For a State you breaks it's arm patting itself on the back for being dead last in having the number of smokers, drinkers, gamblers, and coffee drinkers --

being #4 out of 5 is still nothing to crow or write home about...

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

So suddenly conservatives trust in polls and surveys now? Where's this trust in science when it comes to issues such as evolution, global warming, and green energy?

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Stormwalker... as one who lives in the world of so called "analytics", I agree with you. Refuting a 5 year old study is about as worth while as rewarming a grilled cheese sandwich.... you can do it, but why. The one thing I do have to give credit to is that the person who did this study also published their data - and I have already downloaded it. Not looked at it yet, too little time... but peer review is a great way of learning more and validation. So kudos.... even if I don't totally agree with the conclusions or the validity. But maybe....

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

I wonder if the libs who have jumped all over the 2009 study will now equally support this new one.

But that wouldn't fit their agenda

I'm not personally against porn in moderation and use by adults.

I just find the flip flopping if those who were certain the 2009 study was right now won't believe the study.

Flip flop. Flip flop

Commonman
HENDERSON, NV

I note that neither study has a way of separating out LDS from non-LDS cohorts. If this could be determined it would tell a more accurate tale of reality.

Hamath
Omaha, NE

@ LDS Liberterian,

DN is reporting, not "crowing". However, some Utahans will certainly crow over this and perhaps even use it to dismiss the other study.

However, being in the bottom 80% (meaning only 20% of states use less) is something to crow about if you thought you had the highest usage. If you were the worst player on a basketball team with 10 players. Then suddenly one day out of the blue that you are the third best on the team. You would be happy. It's a matter of "improvement".

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

" . . .those Utahns who do consume pornography are more likely to pay for it than users in other states."

Well, you get what you pay for.

Porn connoisseurs, far more discerning than the average porn consumer, would not be happy with just any old free pornography that anyone can look at.

BYU Joe
MISSION VIEJO, CA

The bigger question is why at all. First one could arguer that porn is simply attractive and accessible. But I would suggest the question goes farther than this. The issue is why does Utah have a problem at all.

First I would suggest it may have to do with the cultural view of sex. This create certain expectations and cultural norms. However people have desires and expectations of their own outside the puritan norms. When these are not met people - men - turn to other outlets (Porn).

I would ask the question also if men in this state feel that their spouses met their basic sexual needs or wants. I wonder if that number correlates to anything interesting.

I am not blaming women - just asking how our culture adds to the question of why - if it does at all. Nad maybe blaming them a little if they are not helping the situation - we have all seen that. But some guys are just not satisfied too.

It might also be what we report as porn - to some the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue is porn.

Monogamy is Gods gift - how we treat each other is our gift to one another.

Ricardo Carvalho
Provo, UT

Folks, please read the article and not just the headline. According to the new study, Utah is in the bottom 20% for internet porn use. That means that 80% of states have more porn use per capital than Utah.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

@Christopher B - not quit sure why this is a partisan issue.... can you help me out here? Particularly in that in both studies Idaho and Utah (Both states dominated by LDS folk) flip flop places. One study looks at paid content, another looks at page views. Neither paint necessarily an issue that isn't a problem. Both states have issue... its just how they consume the product. Hence why the first presidency has been all over his issue every conference.

Moral transgression is something that happens to conservatives and liberals alike. Wish as you may that this somehow fit into some political profile, in the real world it is an issue whether you vote red or blue.

Politics has infested even the most nuanced corners of our daily lives, and it is a total shame.

nicholdraper
West Jordan, UT

The earlier study was skewed by a national hotel ISP based in Utah that used to run all hotel traffic from all over the US through Utah assigned numbers. In the same way I can sit in my house VPN into my office and supposedly I'm surfing from Massachusetts. The earlier study was not accurate. That isn't to say that Utah doesn't have a problem with pornography, but it is likely equivalent to most other parts of the country. Also, number of clicks doesn't necessarily equate to those with a problem. If you've ever gotten a charge on your Visa that you didn't authorize, your computer through a virus may have been doing some surfing that you didn't see.

nicholdraper
West Jordan, UT

In the end it doesn't really matter. Pornography addiction is a tragedy on an individual basis. Who cares if the percentage is slightly higher in Utah or slightly lower, if it is a close friend or family member who is hooked it is a problem. I've seen people loose their jobs because they couldn't use a computer without being sidetracked by pornography. Is being 40th good? It is not good enough, even the state in 50th place still has too many people hooked.

Bob K
Davis, CA

nicholdraper
West Jordan, UT
The earlier study was skewed by a national hotel ISP based in Utah that used to run all hotel traffic from all over the US through Utah assigned numbers.

--- OK, then: just reminds us that mormon-owned hotel companies profit from porn, liquor, and gambling with impunity.

Also, mormon-owned hotel companies back Gay rights, because hotel work is very heavily a Gay profession, and not backing their rights would cost them employees.

It all speaks the idea that nothing is a sin if it happens to non-mormons, and mormons make money from it

Redshirt1701
Deep Space 9, Ut

Yea, we have a study that shows that the people of Utah are cheap when it comes to porn.

How about we spend more time fighting the problem than studying it. Porn is bad regardless of how much you pay for it.

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