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Published: Friday, May 30 2014 7:04 a.m. MDT

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Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Steven S Jarvis

"Washington State and Colorado, teams BYU would never lose to......."

That's a bold claim considering what happened in Virginia last year.....

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

2fer

Considering Utah has lost to 10-loss UNLV and 10-loss Colorado, as well as New Mexico, Wyoming, Colorado State, and Washington State, the Utes have proven that they're capable of losing to anybody on BYU's schedule.

Mexican Ute
mexico, 00

BYU should schedule Bama. Try to get the game as bad as you can, using any means possible.

Doesn't mean they will win. Bama will run roughshod over them, probably beating them by at least four touchdowns.

The Sagarin stat is telling, that a Utah team that didn't even make it to a bowl game, still ranked above an 8 win BYU team (who got curb stomped by Washington in their bowl game btw).

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

To the multiple posters on here pointing finger at WAZZU, they should re-think their position. Last season WAZZU outplayed Auburn in Auburn down to the wire before narrowly losing. They also beat USC in L.A. When has byu ever beat USC? They concluded the regular season 6-6 against what was ranked at the time the #1 SOS in the nation.

I get that byu fan avoids SOS like the scourge because it literally destroys his illusion of byu football's standing in relation to the big boys, yet it's entirely 100% relevant. Just ask those in charge of our brand-new playoff-format of its import.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ mussingaround

What Utah did in 2006, with completely different players, in a completely different conference some how effects their team today? Nice logic. CU was a bad loss, but that happens to every program. Alabama lost to UL-Montroe in 2007, could the Tide also lose to anybody on BYU's schedule.

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

2fer

What Utah did in 2008, with completely different players, in a completely different conference, is also completely irrelevant to Utah's team today, yet Utah fans like U somehow think that 2008 somehow proves that the Utes can be competitive in a big boy conference...

4-5, 3-6, 2-7 says otherwise.

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

@2Fer,

Granted Virginia was a bad team that the Cougars had no business losing to. I could point out the flood in the visitors tunnel or that the Cougars were playing two time zones away that made the game more difficult. The fact is the Cougars should never have lost that one; however it was the first such bad loss under the Mendehall era. Whittingham has a history replete with inexplicable losses while the lone loss is very unlikely to be duplicated.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ mussingaround

I agree with you. 2008 was a lot of fun, but it doesn't mean a thing when our team takes the field this summer. I can guarantee you that I have never claimed anything different. However, I do think Utah is getting better, despite the W/L record. The schedule has been brutal, and Utah hasn't had the horses to compete week in and week out. I'm optimistic that the Utes will be able to put it together in the next year or two.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Steven S Jarvis

Bronco lost to SDSU in 2005, and a 4-win Utah St. in 2010. Bad losses happen to everybody.

sammyg
Springville, UT

I think it's funny that the term "warm-up game" is now the new Ute PC phrase for 'padding my schedule game'.

I wonder what Idaho State fans call their games against Div. 1 teams?

Obviously one team is putting it on the line and the other is well... just looking to get closer to maybe a snowball's chance to get a third tier bowl game as the 7th placeholder.

Wow

ekute
Layton, UT

sammyg,
How many "warm-up games" does byu have before they play in their meaningless bowl.

And what's your insight on why holmoe chickened out of playing Alabama?

Marked it Down
Park City, UT

u-pac

"Even Utah has gifted games to BYU on a 2 for 1 deal..... 2016-17-18 is all."

Silly Utah, the last series scheduled ended with the 2013 game in Provo and the 2016 game in SLC. The 2017 and 2018 were the latest editions to the series.

BYU will NEVER agree to a 2-1 with the Utes, unless its 2 games in spacious LES, for 1 game in tiny LES.

Marked it Down
Park City, UT

u-pac

"After Utah curtailed the annual rivalry a few years ago, Tom Holmoe begged Dr. Hill and he agreed to schedule BYU for one game in 2016 at RES."

That's an outright fabrication! (I'd use a stronger word, but the DN screeners wouldn't allow it.)

BYU never has and never will agree to a 2 for 1 with Utah.

DeepBlue
Anaheim, CA

U-PAC

"tickets to Ute game these days are 5 times-plus more expensive than at LES"

Laughing out loud at your crimson-clouded delusion.

Season Ticket Prices (not including donations to the Cougar or Crimson club)
LES - $110 to $750
RES - $130 to $475

And let's not forget, Utah gives football tickets to its students; BYU students have to pay $190 ($300 guest) for Reserved and $125 ($180 guest) for General Admission ROC Passes.

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

@UtePAc

That 4-8 USU loss wasn't to a bad team. They were very similar to the Utes program these past two years albeit with less experience under their belt. They lost to some very good teams (Boise State, SDSU and Fresno). They should have beat Oklahoma on the road though.

Its far more embarrassing to lose to Colorado at home when a trip to the PAC championship was on the line (a team that hadn't won a conference road in three years) than it is to lose to Virginia on the road to start the season. The stakes are much different. You are also ignoring the the Utes lost to EVERY team in the MWC under Whit.

Yep, the Utes are at the party in the PAC12; however they are sitting at the kiddie table with Cal, Washington State and Colorado all looking at the big boys USC, Washington, Stanford and Oregon. That isn't about to change.

If I had to choose between the PAC12 and Indy, I would stick to Indy at this point. Its simply better to CREATE your own party than to go to someone else's or to let others define who you are.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Steven S Jarvis

4-8 Utah St. was a horrible team. They were blown out by SDSU, Boise, and Fresno.... and the Aggies were also blown out by Nevada, Hawaii, and IDAHO (in Logan). They were not similar to Utah at all. The Aggies played in the WAC, like they had for the previous 13 years, and they had a SR. QB playing. Utah was met with a huge jump in competition after switching conferences, but at least the Utes were competitive. The blowouts have been few are far in-between. The 2010 Aggies got blown out nearly every time they stepped on the field. There is no comparison between the two; except that they beat BYU.

Cal was a top 10 team, ten years ago. WSU was in the Rose bowl in 2001. CU was a national champion in the 90's. Just because Utah is down now, doesn't mean they will be forever.

You are in the extreme minority if you would choose the PAC-12 over Indy. BYU created their own party while the rest of the country labeled the Cougars a mid-major program and left them out of the P5.

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

2fer

"Utah was met with a huge jump in competition after switching conferences, but at least the Utes were competitive."

Define competitive.

Only under the crimson bubble on the hill would they consider 4-5, 3-6, 2-7 competitive.

With a gift-wrapped PAC South there for the taking, U couldn't even beat a 10-loss team that hadn't won a road game in 4 years on your home field - and that was in your best season.

backpacn
Sandy, UT

2fer

Operative word "was".

Utah was only up for only a couple of brief periods, 2003-2004 and 2008-2009.

Other than that, Utah's entire football history is one of middle to bottom of the conference mediocrity in the WAC/MWC or simply being less mediocre than the extremely mediocre teams of the Skyline/RMC.

Striker
Omaha, NE

Should not even be a question. Look at this schedule! BYU also plays E Carolina, UConn, Cincinnati and Fresno. I would rather see BYU play a mammoth schedule than schedule Western Maine.

Ronald Uharriet
SWun City, Ca.

Yes, yes, and yes again.

We should definitely schedule Alabama and do it now before we miss the boat.

When we are out of the (mid major) catagory, we can afford to negotiate and make sure
that we have a good deal or at least a fair deal in (back to back) or (home and away)
arrangements.

We are not yet considered a significant team when compared to the teams of the Big 5 conference. I suggest that playing as many Big 5 teams as possible, win or lose, and as few mid major teams as possible and no teams below the mid major level, this is the activity that
will cause the college football world to start thinking of us as a major.

If that means that we have to travel away in order to get a Big 5 conference team on our schedule, than so be it.

We need to stop bickering and get the job done. Schedule now. Turn off the computer and make that call.

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