Tinplater, et al.,I think the difficulty is that Stang just wants to
know if the Aggies have scored EXACTLY 41 points against anyone, in which case
the answer is yes, the Aggies beat Toledo in the FIP Bowl in 2012 by a score of
41 to 15. In that year, U-State also beat NMSU by a score of 41 to 7. Those
are the only two games since 2008 in which Utah State has scored exactly 41
points, so I guess that means we're pretty bad and we might as well just
throw in the towel against any team from the mighty Big Sky.
No you only think we are far inferior. That would be smart and able 08Stanley I
can't wait to talk SUU football with you in person come August. You mean
when Chuckie get's hurt Sambone.
Couldn't be happier to have Hobbs. We've got a full stable of
dual-threat quarterbacks for when Chuckie graduates.
I'm so smaart it hurts sometimes. Teams who score 54 points on my birds
arent good and would never be abel to match Big Sky compitition.
@ Stang08Not inferior. FAR inferior.
inferior? This is why I dislike the aggies. tinplater according to you even
those guys could've scored more against us but they didn't. All I
want to know is, why is that? Plus SUU doesn't go up against girls so you
must be exaggerating.
Stang0, we couldn't score more than 54 points because the last quarter was
played using the mascot and the cheerleaders.
"Why didn't you score more?"Probably because the Aggies
called off the dogs. I'm sure they didn't want to run up the score on
a far inferior program....
I thought you would've picked up on the unspoken words. Any top BigSky
school. But I guess I was wrong. Still laying on the flattery 08Stanley, I
believe you meant to say Quarterback and respect. It feels good to laugh. Duh,
Duh, Duh I no good at math and would never have realized that. If you are so
good how could you let us score 34 points? Why didn't you score more?
Stang0, in response to your question "I don't think you've ever
scored 41 points on us have you?" check out the score USU 53 SUU 34 about
five years ago. 53 is more than 41.
A new quorterback wont help Utah state. People clearly ruhspect me when their
laughing at me.
Stang0 my typo error… Sept. 2015 we get the chance to play SUU again. The
Aggies can only win the games they play, currently are 4 wins no losses to the
Big Sky in the last five years. Stang0 read your own posts..here is a direct
quote from you: " I don't think you've ever scored 41
points on us have you? Have you ever scored 41 points on anyone?" No where are you talking about what calibre of team. We have dropped a lot
of points on SUU in two games…are they bottom dwellers?
tinplater read my posts. I said top or middle of the pack BigSky teams not
bottom dwellers. WSU is a bottom dweller. Again I can't stress enough
that I mean no disrespect but it's the truth. The rest of those schools
are bottom dwellers of the WAC 2.0 so let me rephrase. Have you scored 40+
points against a TOP school? If the game is actually taking place I need you to
get the date right. We don't play the mighty 2nd place Aggies from the WAC
2.0 in Sept 2014. Believe me I've checked SUU's schedule multiple
times. The only WAC 2.0 school we play in Nevada.
Stang0, since you advise me to "check your facts" check this out. You
asked if USU scored 41 points on ANYONE...I offered the 70 on Weber. But if
that is not enough, how about, from just last season, 52 on air force, 70 Weber
State, 45 New Mexico, 47 Hawaii. Yes Stang0, the Aggies have scored more than
41 points on their competition, multiple times in just one year. Hopefully
Sept. 2014 will have another team added to the list of more than 41, SUU.
Now isn't that typical: when confronted with legit questions about the
Utes' long-term future and viability in the PAC, Chris is nowhere to be
seen. I agree with tinplater, he brings up some valid points about what Utah has
to compete with in other PAC schools. And back to back losing seasons isn't
helping the Utes either. Besides, if Chris's Utes were legit
PAC contenders, he wouldn't waste any time at all on USU or BYU articles. I
mean, they're just small fry compared to Utah's Rose bowl aspirations,
right Chris? Arizona hasn't made a Rose bowl appearance since
joining the PAC decades ago, so why is Utah going to fare better? I
eagerly anticipate your response, Chris.
Stang0, read what you post..you asked if USU had scored 41 points on
anyone...they scored 70 on Weber...answering your question that is all.
No disrespect to Weber but it's Weber. I believe that year they had
two/three coaching changes before the season even started so they were
inevitably going to be on a downhill slide. Again no disrespect WSU fan's
but you know this to be true. Correct me on the coaching changes I know
I'm exaggerating a lot. Against middle of the pack BigSky teams or top
BigSky teams you haven't come close to 40 points. Once again tinplater
needs to check the facts.
I think Washington State must be thrilled,, because Utah has taken their place
at the bottom of the Pac-11 1/2,,
At Stang0, USU ever score 41 points? How about the 70-6 beating of Big Sky
member Weber State? And that score was actually held down in the second half,
otherwise might have been 100.
@Chris B,I enjoy your interest in USU. How do you see Utah battling it
out with SC, Standford, UCLA, Cal, Oregon, Arizona and AZ State when you have to
contend with Salt Lake City culture, Salt Lake City Climate, the greater
resources of the above universities financially, and better coaching? All
things being equal if I am a star athlete and have offers from above and Utah,
I'm off to the climate and culture of the non Utah schools. I see Utah
trying hard but failing as a football presence in the PAC 12.
Its funny watching USU and SUU fans battle it out. They'll continue to be
great rivals for many years.
I'm in the group that can't imagine why anyone would rip USU's
football team or its fans. Yes, their ambitions may not include the words
"national title" (like 95% of the FBS), but consider where they come
from. When five wins in a season used to feel like a moral victory, why begrudge
fans the right to enjoy the relative glory of winning the Potato Bowl or Creamed
Corn Bowl?I always giggle when I read some fan write "the
University of Utah Pac-12 Utes" or some variation thereof. Consider the
following made-up conversation and see if it feels familiar:"May
I introduce my good friend, Bill Smith?""Hello, Mr. Smith.
How do you do?""Actually, it's Doctor Smith. I am a
DOCTOR. Yes, I am Dr. Bill Smith, a real doctor who earned a doctorate degree.
It's very prestigious, my doctorate; oh yes. Just because it's
honorary doesn't mean I didn't earn it. You don't have one, do
you?"Ute fans, you are collectively Dr. Bill Smith. I doubt many
USC fans identify themselves as "the University of Southern California
I can't predict a score tinplater but Sambone's attitude says we
shouldn't even have the game. I know you supposedly don't read my
comments Sambone but try to be a little more realistic and have faith in our
guys. Yes I know you secretly cheer for SUU. What I do know is you won't
have your hero so SUU could keep it close. I don't think you've ever
scored 41 points on us have you? Have you ever scored 41 points on anyone?
@TinplaterI predict the 2015 game between the birds and the Ags will
be close... until after the national anthem. Then it will be all Ags, all the
time, just like it was in 2012. I bet Damion Hobbs starts for the Ags and
torches the birds 41-10. Original recipe? No, extra crispy please!
Just noticed SUU is scheduled to play USU first game 2015. Chance for Stang0 to
pony up and tell us what he predicts the score/outcome to be as USU plays the
upper echelon of Big Sky football.
Stang0, "USU isn't great football"? Great is subjective, what is
not, however, is being competitive. USU is competitive in it's conference
and plays very entertaining football. Whether it is great or not depends upon
your point of view. Greatest game I ever saw was Harvard/Yale 28-28 tie. Still
no one would accuse the Crimson or the Eli's (or the entire Ivy League) of
playing great football. But that tie game has been the single most amazing
football game I have witnessed.
Hey fellow Aggies, isn't it great to have haters? Weak, irrelevant programs
don't have haters. The more hateful, the better!
Stang08Southern, UT"I was talking about the top schools.
USU isn't great football."Uhhh, Stang. Didn't the
"great" football team, the Utes, get a fluke win over USU just before
Chuckie Keaton got hurt?
Big 12 Call Yet?Ogden, UT"The other [presumably Utah?] is
a power 5 Pac 12 team with multiple top 5 finishes in recent years.Big big difference. Please don't confuse them."Can't
be Utah. Multiple top five finishes in recent years would only apply to Stanford
and Oregon. Utah and Vandy are in "power" conferences, but
they--as bottom dwellers--do NOT supply the power. So I think folks very well
might "confuse them."
Mockery is the same thing as flattery. the Big sky is the bestest conferance in
all college football.
Stang0 I would welcome comments from others who feel that USU wouldn't be
at the top of the pack in the Big Sky in major sports. As memory serves USU has
dominated the schools you mention (certainly Montana, NAU and Montana State)
don't know how many of the others they have played. But again let's
have some one beside Stang0 educate me on how strong the Big Sky is compared to
USU or anyone in your conference. No I'm not. Are you talking about
football or basketball? Football has been the past two years. I wasn't
talking about middle of the pack and low ranking BigSky schools. I was talking
about the top schools. USU isn't great football.
Stang0 I think you may be the only person on the planet that thinks the Big Sky
Teams would consistently beat USU. Judging from Weber State and SUU against the
Aggies, it hasn't even been a contest. I suggest you go and review the USU
SUU scores again..USU 3 wins no losses. Total points in the series…117
USU 47 SUU (and the score was held down in the final quarter of all three
games). Utah State plays at a higher level than the Big Sky, just as the PAC 12
plays at a higher level than USU. It is just the way it is. Smaller schools,
smaller resources, less prestigious conference..but doesn't mean you
can't have great football at all the different levels.
I don't agree at all tinplater. Montana, Montana State, NAU, Eastern
Washington would all make you sweat and may beat you. Those are top conference,
top country teams and could beat anyone. I'm sure Richard will take you up
on that offer Aggie84. I, Stang08 however will decline and watch great football
down South in a quality conference. But keep asking Richard. He has to answer
sometime. Imitation is still the sincerest form of flattery. I've never
said that but I'm glad someone pretending to be me because he respects me
The Aggies would get killed in the Big Sky conference cause I said so. My birds
would dominate them cause I said so. We will score 6 whole points against them
the next time we meet. It won't be a game in 2015, it will never be close.
Richard, Richard, Richard. I have bought an extra ticket for you to come see
some quality football again. Have to admit that your hate for the Aggies
is as strong as my love for the team where the sagebrush grows.
Stang0…so what if it is "right up there with the Sun Belt"? The
MWC is still above the Big Sky, don't you agree? What is important is
having a conference of near equals. USU is in the best possible fit given its
size, financial resources. How do you think USU would fare if they played just
Weber State, SUU, NAU, Montana, Montana State? In other words were in your SUU
Chris B is trolling us again? Hilarious!He obviously pays more
attention to those pesky Aggies than he cares to admit, so that means we're
doing something right. All the PAC smack in the world won't convince me
otherwise. Oh, by the way we had far more players enter the NFL this year than U
did. And our TV ratings were higher last season. Congrats, the P12 network is
the new MTN. At least our conference peers respect us. Utah
can't seriously claim that programs like USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Arizona
State respect the U. That's lunacy. Besides, Utah hasn't beaten the
Sun Devils since 1976.The only reason Utah had a decent first season
in the PAC was because UCLA, Oregon State, Arizona, and Wazzou were all firing
their coaches due to poor performance.Utah traded their heart and
soul (and wins) for the almighty dollar. Sure hope it was worth it for U, Chris.
@AggieAlumUtah was in the original MWC when that conference meant
something. Utah/BYU/TCU made the original MWC. Now it probably ranks right up
there with the Sun Belt.
It is interesting that the majority of mail on a USU article or a BYU article is
always from U of U supporters. I wonder why that is. Give a program credit
where credit is due. It would be great to see all programs from Utah win and
achieve their significant goals.
PAC 12…if you are having more fun with no bowls and bottom part of the
conference enjoy! USU is competitive in its conference. I put this to you,
would you belittle the IVY league because Harvard/Yale/Princeton can't
compete with the power conference schools?But Utah has a definite
disadvantage in the four C's for recruiting in the PAC:1.
College….Stanford, Berkeley A+ Utah C2. Culture….USC, UCLA
Stanford A+ Utah D3. Climate USC UCLA Stanford A+ Utah D (maybe F
the winters are gruesome)4. Coeds USC Arizona State Arizona A+ Utah
DI'm happy for Utah being in the PAC 12, just as I am happy
that USU isn't there, you are right we would not be able to compete. Does
that make USU less worth while? It's success any less of an achievement.
Get back to me when the U is competitive. Utah should be ashamed they lost to
USU two years ago by your warped sense of sports and competition.
Big 12...way to go..you get your pleasure from belittling others and the
accomplishments of others. It has been bad times for the Aggies...now much
better. Who do you think is having more fun, an Aggie fan or a Ute football
fan? We will never be able to compete at the same level as Utah on a consistent
basis, just as Utah will never be able to compete with USC, Arizona State,
Arizona, Cal, Stanford, Oregon on a consistent basis. But at least we are where
Too bad the UoU cancelled their game with USU this year. I understand why they
cancelled it, they were afraid they would lose to USU, and that would mean it
would be harder to get those six wins that have eluded them for the last couple
Looks like this QB has the audible down...
I think it is Big 12 call yet that is confused (maybe Chris B?). How does the U
have multiple top 5 finishes in recent years? By my recollection the U is the
football bottom dweller of the Pac 12. (what is their PAC 12 football won loss
record?) Believe me, USU does not want to be confused with either the U or BYU.
We are enjoying the best of times, U of U is just an Elavil above depression.
Damion looks like a real athlete, and Myer's 41 TD's 4 int is jaw
dropping. Been forever since USU has been able to attract this quality of
athlete. Thank you coach Anderson and Wells!
utehater,Utah State. University of Utah Pac 12 UtesThose are different teamsOne is a fun regional WAC program that
once every 10-20 years will beat their big brother rivals and it will be the
highlight of their decade.The other is a power 5 Pac 12 team with
multiple top 5 finishes in recent years.Big big difference. Please
don't confuse them.
Waylon77Logan, UTI have a feeling that DJ Nelson is not going
to want to stick around when he gets back from his mission. Not if Bronco
and players can apply enough peer pressure.
It will be interesting to see how this all plays out since Myers will be
eligible this year. He could really secure his spot if he impresses in the
fall. He ought to be able to leapfrog Harrison (and maybe Garretson) at any
rate.I have a feeling that DJ Nelson is not going to want to stick
around when he gets back from his mission.
Looks like a nice addition to follow up Chuckie. Welcome Damion!
@UtehaterforlifeIt's Utah State he's transferring to. Not
Utah.@Stang08I don't understand your hate for the
Aggies. Everyone likes the Aggies? Did your affections get rebuffed when you
tried to become a True Aggie, or what?
utehaterforlifeHe is transferring to utah STATE. Not Utah.Read the article.
Utehaterforlife The school is Utah State University that he is
transferring to, not the University of Utah.
Stang0, he will get more playing time at USU than at Oregon where he was likely
not to play at all. USU is loaded with QB talent, it will be interesting to see
who surfaces in two years out of Garretson, Hobbs, or Myers. For those
interested check out the highlights of these QBs on video. Here are the senior
stats on these players:Darell Garretson - Passing-211/316 (67%
Comp.), 3065 yards, 27 TD's, 6 INT. Rushing- 69car./347 yards, 7
TD'sKent Myers - Passing- 218/301 (72% Comp.), 3331 yards, 41
TD's, 4 INT. Rushing- 76car./569 yards, 10 TD'sDamion Hobbs -
Passing- 200/297 (67% Comp.), 2591 yards, 27 TD's, 7 INT. Rushing-
180car./763 yards, 11 TD's
So is this like quarterback number 9 at Utah?
There is going to be a good competition for the Quarterback position for the
next few years. If Hobbs doesn't make it as a quarterback, he could be a
good running back or wide receiver.
Well he'll get a lot of playing time. However, instead of potentially
playing for the National Title he'll have to settle for the Potato Bowl or
the Poinsettia Bowl. Hope you're happy with your choice kid.