In addition to the money the Utes have a seat at the table in the Big 5
discussions as well as a more clear path to the playoff. So as our team's
play improves with better coaching and improved talent the Ute's potential
is a lot greater. The money helps build facilities and hire coaches that will
attract the talent we need to compete. No right thinking Ute fan will pretend
that it hasn't been a rough road these first couple of years, but it beats
playing basically the same schedule we had in the MWC with no greater
opportunities on the horizon.
"Who am I sir?" misquoted the Senator Dirksen phrase... which he
borrowed from J. Paul Getty:"A billion here, a billion there,
pretty soon it adds up to real money." J. Paul Getty (1892 - 1976).Just sayin'.
In response to comments stating or implying that UofU makes more football
revenue than BYU, here is a quote from earlier Deseret News article comparing,
inter alia, sports revenues between the Jazz, the Cougars, the Utes and the
Aggies:"According the U.S. Department of Education, Brigham
Young University's football team is the most profitable team in the state.
BYU brought in $22.4 million in the 2012 season, posting a $7.41 million
profit.Meanwhile, the Runnin' Utes are also runnin' all
the way to the bank. Utah's football team posted $20.7 million in revenue
and a $5.9 million profit in 2012.Even the Utah State Aggies, a team
with historically poor earnings in football, posted a profit this past year.
According to the U.S. Department of Education, Utah State had football revenue
of $5,881,832 and football expenses of $5,881,831 to tally a total profit of
The victorys over BYU didn't count. It's a no win situation.But I'm sure the win over Stanford counts!
Chris B, I don't recall you ever becoming a member of the
Pac-12. The Utes did and you had nothing to do with it. So pull back the reins a
bit and temper your giddiness about "my Pac-12 membership."
Not to worry, Blue folks. This revenue situation was foretold some time ago and
is now simply coming to fruition. And is expected to continue to improve,
especially if Direct TV eventually picks up the P12 Network.Simply
another example of the three or four different directions the Utah
colleges/universities are going --- BYU independent in accordance and in
consonance with their particular church affiliation, Utah with the P12, Weber
and USU headed in their direction.Schedules differ, SOS differ, etc
etc as do facilities, leverage in recruiting, coaching, etc.Seems
like it is becoming more and more difficult as time passes to compare the
different species of D1 programs in Utah.Isn't it amazing,
however, that the Blue folks who are in the midst of the ACC/SEC/MWC discussion,
an internal investigation, and a history of sequential losses to the U are
touting the U's recent football record.A bit disingenuous.----- "Ye who are without sin, cast the first stone."
I think the 98% renewal rate again this year for season football ticket holders
speaks for itself. Ute fans are very happy with the PAC 12 and the wins will
eventually transpire.BTW, Utah beat #5 Stanford and BYU last year.
@ sammygAll of that money has unquestionably raised the profile of
Utah athletics. Just look at the Deseret Duel score this past year. That would
have never happened 5 years ago. The new facilities are already paying off, and
hopefully Utah athletics continues to grow across the board as basketball and
ski get their new training centers. RES expanding will be the cherry on top of
it all.Go Utes!
Mormon UteKaysville, UT"Now does anybody question why Ute
fans are so happy to be in the Pac 12?"It sure isn't
because of your winning PAC-12 football team.DutchmanMurray,
UT"Utah plays the equivalent of a bowl game every week of the
season."Too bad they also lose almost every week.
Sammyg,Utah plays the equivalent of a bowl game every week of the
Mormon UteSo the money is better than 2 consecutive bowl-less
seasons and three seasons of diminishing football wins.Yeah, I
question Ute fan happiness.All that money and sitting at home during
@workNo question Bowl games bring in more revenue. However, years
ago, I heard a team had to receive about $500,000 TO Break Even! (Today I
suspect it would take about $1M to make a profit!) There are other advantages
but I suspect only the top 50% of the bowls would do much more than break even
for the participants.
Cupcakes are good for helping others become bowl eligible. More revenue.
Now does anybody question why Ute fans are so happy to be in the Pac 12?
With the increase in revenue now they can raise tuition again so that they can
make even more revenue.
Very nice to see the cash flow improving thanks to P12 activity....Hopefully at least some of those dollars, a contribution, can migrate back to
the University to assist with the $400M worth of maintenance needs just
mentioned the other day in the SLC media.Good to finance the
athletic department, but also good to remember to help maintain the University
buildings and utilities too.It all contributes to improving the Utah
We have an HD truck so we could have easily tripled that amount.
Crazy amounts of money. Soon the TV distribution will be larger than the entire
annual athletic department revenue pre-PAC12.
It just keeps getting better and better. What a great time to be a Ute!!Someone...please pass me another Pac-12 sticker!Go Utes!!Go Pac-12!!
Business Finance (as taught by U of U)Given 2 options:Option 1 - An annual income of est. $4-6 M each year for 10 years.Option 2 - Year 1 - $0 income; year 2 - income of $10M; year 3 - income of
$15M; year 4 and beyond - $20M+ incomeTake option 2!(Note not all conferences share revenue equally with all members as the PAC
-12 does so it might be well to see what options TCU teaches. However, I
suspect, the end conclusion would be the same as at the U!(Note: Of
all the reasons given as to why the Y is not in a major conference - the
Y's demanding to keep their ESPN contract over joining a conference is the
2012-13 season was the year Utah received 50% thus the $10M. That means
2013-2014 Utah's share will be in the neighborhood of $15M (assuming no
significant increase for the PAC-12. And this year, 2014-15 Utah's share
will be $20M. Some events that will alter that amount will include and
estimated $1M/ team for the Championship game being played at Levi Stadium, If
the PAC-12 were to get a team in the championship series and a team in the Rose
Bowl that would bring an additional $1-2M/team, when, or if, Direct signs on
with the PAC-12 that could bring an addition several million per team, and who
knows what other changes could occur. Finally, with the resurgence of Utah
Basketball, Utah will probably increase its revenue by what? An additional $ .5
to 1M? As the late Senator Dirksen said, a million here and a million
there and pretty soon you're talking real money. (Paraphrased!)Where's my PAC-12 sticker?
"Wilner reported that the conference brought in $334 million. That's up
from $175 million in the 2011-12."Larry Scott for president!Seriously, we're drowning in money, where do we spend it all, and
the checks are just getting bigger and bigger.A stadium upgrade is
just around the corner.The premier university in Utah and the ONLY
university that is part of the future of college football, is the university of
UtahProud UteProud Pac 12 member
Does anyone know how this compares to MWC Utah state or quasi-mwc byu?LOL!Isn't it great that when evaluating whether Utah added
enough value(money) to the Pac 10 at the time, the Pac 10 decided that yes Utah
added enough value to justify our invitation, which we had to earn through on
the field play and in the classroom.Other conferences have looked at
other Utah schools and decided they do NOT add enough value to justify adding
them.Proud UteProud Pac 12 member
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I LOVE my pac 12
membership!Money basically prints on trees for us now, and it will
only get better as we start sharing fully in the revenue.We just
completed an incredible new football facility, one of the finest in the
nation.new basketball facility is being built and will be top
notchjust announced a new 750k on campus skiing training facilityOne of the biggest issues is deciding how to spend all this money.The power 5 are becoming the new division I and will soon be breaking
off from the NCAA control and will have even MORE money.The future
is bright for Pac 12 Utah sportsProud Ute Proud Pac 12 members
who EARNED our pac 12 inviteI love being part of the future of
college football, the only team in the state who will be included!Go
UTESonward and upward