@My2Cents As incensed as I am over this, I think you raised a good point. Hetch
Hetchy in Yosemite National Park comes to mind. The flooding of that for San
Francisco's water broke John Muir's heart and probably was the cause
of his passing away.
How do we as a society even rectify this? No punishment given could
"repair" the damage has been done. Do we put them in jail? I don't
believe so and even if we did what good would it do? Do we fine them? How do you
put a price on an artifact like this? It's just incredibly
The pure arrogance of Americans is mind boggling. The scout masters, this
incident and the other crap that is left behind is unbelievable. And a lot of
Americans think it is their right to graffiti up wherever they are. When I was
in IRAQ from 03-2011 I was appalled at the amount of graffiti and vandalisim our
Soldiers engaged in. sure it was a war zone but that is no excuse for that kind
of behavior. Hopefully these clowns get caught and get time for letting their
Some people just don't respect those that came before them. Nor do they
respect those they live with and their right to enjoy the beauty of the past.
In how many years time will this new etching become a piece of historical and
scientific data that needs to be preserved? I once visited Independence Rock
and saw many names and dates from the 1800's at what point did they cease
to be graffiti and become part of the historical record? I do agree
with the above expressed outrage, there are plenty of other rocks for one to
leave her mark.
The only thing I can ask is: why? What on Earth is so much fun about destroying
things? Jail time is what this person/people deserve!
"A rock art panel is not someone's private pallet where people can
create their own images." So true, although the word should be
'palette' (as in artist's palette) not 'pallet' (those
wooden platforms used to move merchandise in warehouses and such). I guess we
should be glad the author didn't use 'palate'.
It is terrible that this happened, and previous readers have adequately
expressed that sentiment. Two good things come from these unfortunate
events:1) Advertising. Government agencies have limited resources to
educate individuals that these sites exist. This story will be in dozens of
newspapers and websites, so thousands of individuals previously unfamiliar with
this site will learn about it.2) Conduct training. Some individuals
were simply never taught how damaging this behavior is. The media coverage and
penalties associated will help others recognize the consequences of
vandalism.As an example, people have been taking souvenirs from
Petrified Forest for over a hundred years. Thousands of tons have been lost. The
Park Service does their best to educate visitors, but the problem continues. One
well publicized instance of an individual paying a fine would do more to stop
the practice than the combined efforts of all of the rangers.This
vandal will be caught, he will pay a fine and the damage will be minimized. The
media will cover it well, and thousands more good guests will visit this site as
a result. The end result (with help from the media) will be a net positive for
It can hardly be too criminal, they did not affect the rock art of the ancients
and they just added some current rock are information like pioneers used to do
when they moved west. Man has been forever leaving his mark and its a natural to
want to leave his generations mark with the old. Who know how many generations
or hundreds of years many of these marks were added over time by travelers to
and from the area? This kind of rock information is the same thing and can never
be stopped.The law has become to overbearing and needlessly
condemning man for his I was hear scratchings. What wrong with leaving rock art
that will out last civilizations who don't leave any marks? Our history is
no less important than past centuries of nomads have left us.If its
so important why has government buried hundreds of rock art sites in hundreds of
feet of water with every dam they have ever built a dam in the US? A person is
no more guilty of defacing ancient marking then the what government destroys
Pure vanity and stupidity. When people do permanent and irreparable damage like
this, what they need is a permanent punishment tattooed right onto their
forehead in the form of a "V" for vandal or with the same thing they
vandalized with "JMN 5.24.14".
The only way to stop this crazy vandalism is to fine them and throw them in jail
for a while. Use the money to improve the world.
Although I agree that this is a dumb and immature thing to do, I disagree with
those who believe that it is a crime that deserves jail time. Punishment should
be a fine and community service at the most. If any jail time at all, it should
be a very short sentence. Just my opinion. But, yeah it is an extremely dumb and
immature thing to do. I honestly don't get people who do this. It is messed
I have to agree that defacing property is grounds for legal action. Whether
federal or local doesn't matter, rules and laws should be obeyed. Yet at
the same time, try looking at it from another perspective. The Native Americans
left their mark on the walls, and that is all these people did. Of course it
ruins the aesthetic, but in a few thousand years, it's possible that the
buffalo will be gone anyways, and the marks from our generation will be there.
This will become their new aesthetics.
This vandalism is truly sad. I do have an honest question/comment. I believe
it is certainly valuable to inform the public of these unfortunate acts, and
perhaps some would even argue that this is a responsibility of the press.
Unfortunately, there are those in our population who thrive on getting attention
and will do stupid and even downright evil things to get attention. I wonder if
putting this article on the front page possibly gives a sense of reward (in a
twisted sort of way) to those individuals. In this case, there is enough
information (license plate #) to give the police a lead, thank goodness.I do wonder, however, if some very small percentage of people might read
this article and think "This is how I can have my two minutes of fame",
and thus a question that should be asked is if printing this type of information
may lead to more of the same behavior, even if it is in a very small number of
persons. I think it is a question that should at least be considered as far as
giving the incident, and the perpetrators, notoriety.
Sure hope it wasn't the Boy Scouts this time.
I can't think of a comment which reflects both my outrage and the standards
of this site. I guess it would have to be something about the admixture of
ignorance and arrogance in the psyches of the persons who did this. I hope it
wasn't bolstered by the comments of the hoodoo topplers that they'd
learned they'd done 'the right thing the wrong way', but I never
bought their claim of being motivated by a desire to protect their charges
I will never understand why people can't just enjoy the beauty of their
surroundings without defacing them. I hate when I hike the Uintahs and people
act like it is their backyard with garbage and initials carved everywhere. What
happened to the motto, "Take only pictures". Just like the two
scoutmaster in Goblin Valley, I hope they do jail time.