Keeton was never "hit." Chuckie launched into an aggressive jump-cut and
his knee buckled awkwardly. It was only after he buckled that a cougar even got
a solid hand on him.Sad play.
OK, utes and aggies, we get it. Anyone calling Chuckie's injury is simply
being ignorant or disingenuous. But the fundamental motivation is to join the
current "dogpile" on BYU football. Your hatred and obsession have been
escalating for decades, but the current "blood in the water" of minor,
self-reported NCAA irregularities and conference re-alignment have brought it to
a crescendo. So pile on and have fun -- enjoy the offseason and tune in this
fall for what promises to be a great season for the cougars.Go
Wow. Just wow!This article was all about Dick Harmon's pet
subject (his golfing and golfing surgeries), and you guys have
"hijacked" the topic and turned this Comments-Board into a discussion
about Chuckie Keaton, Obamacare, Nancy Pelosi, and BYU's P5 worthiness (or
rather... non-worthiness).Wow! 8^)
There's hope for tinplater. as for Richard whoever he is I can imagine he
is happy to see Keeton back on the field. Richard seems to be a huge aggie fan.
I only wish he would answer Ifel-ofa-sofa once in a while. I also wish
Ifel-ofa-sofa would tell us who Richard is in his mind. But we all can't
get what we wish for.
Who in the world are these "fans" calling Chuckie's injury
questionable?There was no cheap hit, no late hit, no questionable
hit, NOTHING.The replay clearly shows he jumped a tackler and landed
on his leg and started to crumple and hold his leg before he was even hit.I am glad he has recovered and looking for Chuckie and Co to do some
good things this coming season...So is Richard! LOL
Thanks Dick for the reminder of how blessed we are to live in this day.
I had a perfect view of Keeton's injury, happened right in front of us on
about the 20 yard line, as I remember. It was clear to me the injury was the
result of an awkward landing on the leg. Immediately BYU players on the field
took a knee in respect and concern. Every ounce of Aggie energy drained out of
the stadium on the play.
@ CougsndawgsI agree. The hit on Keeton was not questionable or
dirty in any way, shape of form.Football is a rough game fellas;
injuries are apart of it.
Cougsndawgs,Couldn't agree more. The injury was a result of
Keeton's fragile body. Nothing more, nothing less.
Lol at people saying Keaton's injury was suspect. Let's see, neither
Sam Bradford or Chuckie Keeton felt the injuries were malicious in any way...and
they had a better view than any of us. They were both legal tackles made using
fundamental technique. Thank you 32843 for pointing out confirmatory bias which
is exactly what this is. The hit that caused Keetons injury was no more
intentional and questionable than the hit a U player out on Jamal Williams that
caused his concussion in the rivalry game.
A questionable play caused Keeton's injury? You can't be serious.
@328 in Provo,So, you're explaining why all the crying and gnashing
of teeth continues over the ACC and SEC decision to not count the cougars as
worthy P5 opponents. You did a good job of it and it helps clear up
why the "effect is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply
entrenched beliefs", such as the cougars are relevant in the national
college football world. Because, it is easy to overlook the fact
that "people also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their
existing position" in these type of situations. Have a nice day
32843PROVO, UTWow!I was just going to say 1) one
was a shoulder, one was a knee; 2) one was a sack, one was a scramble for decent
yardage; 3) one was a sitting duck, one was an elusive, open field run but 4)
both were caused when a body part came down hard on the ground.Eerily similar and both suspect...
@JD Las Vegas, NVYou see what you want to see depending on your bias
and prejudice. "Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias or myside
bias) is the tendency of people to favor information that confirms their beliefs
or hypotheses.[Note 1] People display this bias when they gather or remember
information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way. The effect
is stronger for emotionally charged issues and for deeply entrenched beliefs.
People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing
position. Biased search, interpretation and memory have been invoked to explain
attitude polarization (when a disagreement becomes more extreme even though the
different parties are exposed to the same evidence), belief perseverance (when
beliefs persist after the evidence for them is shown to be false), the
irrational primacy effect (a greater reliance on information encountered early
in a series) and illusory correlation (when people falsely perceive an
association between two events or situations)."Have a nice day.
tinplaterscottsdale, AZ"When one tries to blame Obamacare , I
usually find the individual has no idea of what the act provides"Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare: "we have to pass the bill so that you
can find out what is in it,” Apparently, the politicians who voted for it
to begin with didn't know all that was in it either.
Greg, doesn't matter if you think the discoveries are driven by financial
incentives or not (I have engaged in medical research and during the Nixon era
war on cancer, the incentives were federally directed, as an example and we are
yielding the fruits now). The point is our medical care is so expensive it is
breaking the system. Medicare copay of 20% on a chemo bill of $10,000 every
three weeks puts most participants in severe financial jeopardy. The
overwhelming majority of people who criticize Obamacare have no concept of the
act itself or just how bad our health system is.
I agree with AggieAndee, the play that took out Chuckie Keaton looked extremely
questionable and very similar to the same play that took out Oklahoma's Sam
Bradford for a year. Makes ya wonder!
tinplater,$8000 a month leukemia pill. Do you think the reason they
might cost so much is because of the expense of discovering, testing and
licensing the new drug, etc.. They then go into a holding pattern until
it's approved by the FDA? Maybe the reason they cost so much is because
the government is involved. If we had to pay for or arrange for their purchase
through individual means I doubt they would cost $8,000 per month. But if the
government (somebody else) is picking up the tab, I'll eat them like candy.
Who cares about the horrendous financial cost? What cost?You say,
"we face a true medical crisis because of what has happened to require
health care reform". Was does that mean?Without financial
incentives, these discoveries and miracles won't happen. It is nice to have
the option for those who need and can afford miraculous medications. And with
Obamacare we can all afford it, unless they decide that we aren't worth
keeping alive. No longer our choice.Soon perhaps, the most
miraculous drug available will be - aspirin! But it will be free!!! Does
"VA Healthcare" set off any alarms for you?
Hang in there Dick. 10 weeks after total knee replacement I hopped on a jet and
flew to Fiji for some diving in the high current Somosomo straits. Had a ball.
The worst part was the long airplane rides.
Great story, I just want to know how you play basetball.
What we have devised is a very technically advanced medical system but at
horrendous financial cost. Thirty pills taken one daily for Chronic Leukemia
cost approximately $8000 per month…and because they work so well will be
taken for years. We face a true medical crisis…not because of The Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act but because of what has happened to require
health care reform. When one tries to blame Obamacare , I usually find the
individual has no idea of what the act provides, only that they don't like
the sitting President who took on health care reform. Their idea of what to do
is either non existent or a simplistic "revoke Obamacare and elect a
With Obama care we do not know what the future of medicine holds. I fear the
Federal bureaucracy will botch it up and we will have less competition, fewer
new drugs and treatments and less qualified people becoming doctors.
Super article Dick - thanks for sharing! Although the examples of medical
"miracles" you described are becoming almost commonplace, they would
have truly been considered miraculous only a generation or two ago. Modern
medicine is allowing not only athletes and aging golfers to flourish, but also
premature infants, handicapped children and pain-ridden people everywhere to
enjoy active, fulfilling lives that would have been unimaginable only a few
years ago. This article gives us a perspective that we all need. Great stuff
AggieAndeeHolladay, UT"It looked like questionable play to
me that gave Chuckie the injury in the first place."I recall
when Chuckie went down that his opponents would be assaulted in the media for
intentionally injuring him. I was relived and surprised at the time when the
slo-mo instant replay showed no contact on his leg when his knee gave out.So depending on your definition of "questionable," you may want
to find the video replay of the injury and clear up your unfounded concern.
Great article indeed! There's no denying the amazing effect of modern
medicine and medical advances in treatments we have today, and doctors and
nurses rightfully should get their due acknowledgement for the marvelous job
they do for sure. However, I think the number one acknowledgement that was
missing from the article is that of the divine, God, who is the source of all
knowledge including all these new technological advancements we're blessed
Miracle? Really? Might be time for a dictionary check, if not a priority check.
Medical marvels are great. I had an older brother who died young of a brain
aneurysm. (bulging weak blood vessel) One day my medical GP was asking me some
family medical history questions and when I told him about my brother, he sent
me right over to the hospital for an MRI. He said that aneurysm's tend to
run in families. I had the test and found that I had an aneurysm too!
Fortunately, I was able to to have surgery to repair it and although the surgery
did impair me somewhat, at least I am not in danger of suddenly dying or being
left an invalid from a ruptured blood vessel in my head!! Thank you
I have a friend with a similar story. He has two new knees, a new right hip, and
a rebuilt angle - all old football injuries. I was just amazed at how quickly he
recovered from each surgery and the elevation in his quality of life. He
doesn't even need a cane anymore. Simply amazing.
It looked like questionable play to me that gave Chuckie the injury in the first