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Published: Thursday, May 22 2014 7:20 p.m. MDT

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tinplater
scottsdale, AZ

I sense he may indeed be falling on his sword…or in other words, the "fall guy"

Proud Ute
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Just wondering...... is this damage control?

10CC
Bountiful, UT

Have to feel for the guy, he was evidently a real resource to generations of players.

In this whole thing, Hoffman's refusal to answer questions is striking. Is he simply trying to cover for his friend, or does this thing go deeper?

Certainly talk of a "safe house" seems like maybe there was some skirting of the Honor Code going on, which would certainly explain Busby's termination, and not just a reassignment to another area of BYU.

Time will tell... or maybe it won't. There is plenty of damage that could be done, interests that could be damaged. Maybe Busby's on the beach in Fiji. I wish him well.

TrueBlue=AggieBlue
Logan, UT

I would expect an article like this from a BYU-worshipping newspaper such as this one. They tried really hard to make prolonged serious violations sound as small as shoplifting a candy bar, and they downplayed it further by painting him as some kind of hero for what he did for these people. News flash: rules are rules, and those who break them are not to be commended.

phatness
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Good article. Sounds like Duane was caught between helping people out, and ticky-tacky rules that are intended to stop people from gaining an unfair advantage. But really, while laws and regulations to make people behave well have their place, you can't really force people to be good.

I don't know Duane, but from the statements contained in this article, I wish there were more people like him; people that paid more attention to the Golden Rule than to petty rules of bureaucrats. And if there were more people that lived by the Golden Rule, maybe we wouldn't need those ticky-tacky rules in the first place.

From Ted's Head
Orem, UT

This is likely going to get uglier. The student athletes are not charged with the responsibility of tracking adherence to the NCAA rule book and their glowing comments about Busby to not diminish his alleged mistakes, mistakes which likely would have got him fired had his bosses known about them. From what we are reading it seems he gave himself the authority to put BYU at risk for NCAA sanctions, all in the name of helping out the athletes. If the allegations are true, BYU SHOULD be penalized for not having a better check and balance system in place. Great guy indeed.

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

I've known many people who had a gift for mentoring college age kids. When they run into problems, its usually because they forget to maintain a professional distance between themselves and those they are helping. Nonetheless, if the situation is as benign as the article describes, I would hope the system would be flexible enough to give this guy a second chance.

eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

A very soft, one-sided article. Why didn't the writer ask questions of players about the allegations? Why wasn't Busby interviewed? Where IS the guy? We want answers, not fluff. I don't care how great of a "friend" this guy was - he's liable already for quite a bit of damage to the program. Sounds like he was trusted too much and left on his own without accountability. Is this the way Bronco runs things??

Riley Mendenhall
Provo, UT

Bronco will proobably take zero responsibility in this.
But as the head coach it is his job to know what is going on in the football program. Staff and players shouuld be trained on this and he needs to be aware of what is going on.
How about more focus on complying to NCAA rules and less focus on firesides.

BYUalum
South Jordan, UT

Sounds like a really great guy who helped a lot of young men and helped influence and shape the lives of many, many now husbands and fathers. and, he did it without a lot of fanfare. I hope that is taken into account in the final say so.

And, I hope those who love to throw their poison darts of words at BYU for whatever reason on this comment board can show restraint and remain silent as this all comes out. Duane Busby was definitely a good man with good intentions!

goforit
Provo, UT

Anyone who thinks this is a one time instance is kidding themselves. There are many boosters committing small violations all the time. Most never get caught. It is happening at all universities. Spencer Hadley's trouble was in part a boosters involvement. You have Jim McMahon, the Volleyball Team a few years ago. I am a BYU grad who has become less of a fan throughout the years. Fans are so self righteous about being better than anybody else in college sports, them try and explain infractions away as little.

I think it is time for BYU to follow BYU Hawaii and Ricks and just do away with sports all together. They bring a lot of exposure for sure, but much of it is negative. Plus all colleges are tired of BYU's holier than thou attitude.

Silent Lurker
Cottonwood Heights, UT

So are we to believe that Busby did the wrong things for the right reasons? This is classic BYU spin from a sympathetic local journalist. Mr Call do you teach your children that it is OK to break the rules as long as they feel it is the right thing to do?

Flashback
Kearns, UT

The NCAA rules are like the Tax code. No one knows what is actually in it and the arcane rules don't stop stuff from happening. If a kid got some reduced rent, so what? If he got a pair of socks, so what? No one was getting fee cars or money from boosters or new wardrobes. This isn't even close to what happened when SMU got busted back in the early 80's and got the death penalty. They cheated and had the best team money could buy on the field and still got beat by the Y in the Miracle Bowl. It appears that Busbey took the care and keeping of the players to be more important than some idiot rules.

The fact that the Y have been investigating themselves is a good thing. The recognize that there has been some type of a problem and are willing to face the music themselves.

5
Orem, UT

I remember when Tark Arslanian, then head basketball coach at UNLV, called a press conference to announce that one of his players had just been notified that his grandmother, who had raised him, had passed away. He said NCAA rules didn't allow anyone to give the player money for a ticket to his grandmother's funeral, but he was publicly giving the player the ticket to go home for a few days. Because the incident was public, the NCAA never did anything about it. Thee must have been embarrassed about the silliness of some of the rules. I think the NCAA needs to follow their mission statement and actually show more concern for the athletes personal growth.

Snack Pack
Lehi, UT

You keep using the word "illegal". I don't think that word means what you think it means. The term is violation, not illegal. You can't go to prison for giving free meals. Only in the NCAA can someone (allegedly) give "free housing, gifts and other benefits" and be condemned and suspended. In the real world, that's called being Christ-like.

dpal
Provo, UT

Sure a lot of people who set themselves up as judge and jury. Like a bunch of vultures waiting for someone to do something wrong so they can pounce.

Danite
Salt Lake City, UT

Two things:

1. You play by the rules that are in in play. Even if they're ridiculous and need some serious reforming, the rules are the rules. If BYU did in fact violate rules they should be held accountable. It doesn't matter why they were broken or how good of an individual the perpetrator is, the buck has to stop somewhere. Let's not try and minimalize what happened.

2. The other thing is, if there are not rules, hard lined rules, college athletics becomes a free for all. Can you imagine what some big programs could turn college athletics into without some stringent rules? What goes on is repressed by hard lined rules, some are ridiculous but in the long run, I think they keep amateurism intact. I for one love college sports and the student athlete model, in the name of "reform" and "common sense rules" we can easily head down a slippery slop to professionalism.

goforit
Provo, UT

@Snack Pack

I agree it is Christ like if he was doing the same thing for others besides the football players. Otherwise I think it is only looking out to help him in his job. Good football players makes him look good. If third trumpet in Cougar Band is different in his sight then it isn't Christ Like at all. I'm not judging him, because he might do it for every one, just saying don't be too quick the other way in throwing out the phrase Christ like. I don't think Christ would break any rules no matter how small. Then again maybe Mr Busby didn't know it was against the rules. Only he knows.

Red
San Antonia, TX

I've never met Duane Busby, but he sounds like he is a great guy.

I will stand by him ALL DAY LONG!

In fact, we need more people like him.

Football is on a downward spiral because we are chasing away guys like Duane. The media is trying to act like they are really doing a great job exposing things. I think that everyone needs to back off of every sport at every school. The hype and pressure and hate is driving everyone away.

Let's get our world back to some more normal times when everyone was a lot less sensitive.

The great day of protecting everyone from everything is proving to be our ruin.

Life is hard enough without trying to punish everyone.

ksampow
Farr West, Utah

BYU and the NCAA are investigating. They will get to the bottom of this. In the meantime, there is nothing wrong with an article recognizing the good that this man has done. Let the investigation bring out the facts before you throw darts!

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