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Published: Tuesday, May 27 2014 2:04 a.m. MDT

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DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Passing out lots of "free stuff" and promising to do it again, and demonizing those who provide jobs will tend to achieve this result.

Shaun
Sandy, UT

@Dn subscriber. Taking a job for the sake of "pride" even if it is %20 percent of what someone use to make isn't helping anybody or the economy.

I would never take an $10 a hour job after making what I made. I would rather cut down on my expenses and stay at home with my kids. It does cost money to get to work and if you only $10 an hour it is really like working for $5 an hour.

Silent Lurker
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Sounds like the 47% aren't hungry enough for a job. I see help wanted signs every day.

Cincinnatus
Kearns, UT

@DN Subscriber and @Silent Lurker

I'm glad you're able to sit back and smugly declare that there are plenty of jobs out there, but people are just lazy, or get free stuff, or... whatever.

Taking a $8.00/hr job after you've been working for years making $15, or $20, or more per hour, just doesn't work. It doesn't pay the mortgage, medical bills, student loans, or other obligations.

I searched for months to find a job that was even near what I previously made. With 20 years of experience, and jobs skills that translated to many different jobs and employers, I got ONE interview. ONE out of hundreds of applications I submitted- and that even included some applications to fast food restaurants.

It is discouraging out there for many- especially when you can't even get an interview.

DLC/Orange County
Placentia, CA

A few words to those of you who would suggest that there are plenty of jobs out there and those of us unemployed need to take whatever job we can: I am 49 years old, have 20+ years business experience managing staffs of up to 300. I have applied to hundreds of jobs from management jobs to fast food and everything in between. I have received a grand total of 0 interviews. I would suggest unless you really understand the job market and what its like out there you really should just keep quiet. This economy if horrible and has been artificially propped up by the Federal Reserve printing press and other government freebies. Unfortunately round two is coming and because of the desperate actions and interference of the Federal Government it will make the 2008 recession look like a speed bump.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

@Cincinnatus

"Taking a $8.00/hr job after you've been working for years making $15, or $20, or more per hour, just doesn't work."

It works better than making $0/hr. I would do anything I had to do in order to support and take care of my own.

And yes, there are help wanted signs everywhere. I've been trying to hire someone for 18 months for a good, high-paying job and I haven't had a single qualified applicant the whole time. And yet half of all unemployed Americans have given up - they aren't willing to get retrained, reeducated, or take a job that they perceive is "below them." Welcome to the new America.

David
Centerville, UT

A Ronald Reagan type leader could turn this economy around. Unfortunately our current president & Congress is MIA with efforts to improve the economy. They never found a way to work together to get things done. Both sides are to blame.

Cincinnatus
Kearns, UT

@Brave Sir Robin

I disagree. What good is it to make $7 or $8, enough to put food on the table for a family, when you might not have a table left to put food on? What happens when I lose my house, but rent is more than my mortgage? Where do I go then? What do I do about my other bills?

I'm not saying people should quit looking for work, but having been there recently myself, I can understand how discouraging it can be to go months and months and months without even an interview.

And, unfortunately, people like DN Subscriber would take all assistance away, with the callous attitude that either people make it all on their own or die trying.

I have a friend who's been looking longer than I have and still can't get hired. It's not that he quit. He just can't get hired. Anywhere. Welcome to the new America.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Forcing people into taking horrific paying jobs is exactly what execs want.

No wonder why we have a dying middle class when folks like DN would rather label fellow Americans as "lazy" for wanting decent paying jobs. Folks, it's time to stand together and say "enough is enough!"

Time for the rich to trickle down their wealth! We've waited long enough!

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

" Passing out lots of "free stuff" and promising to do it again, and demonizing those who provide jobs will tend to achieve this result."

What a bunch of partisan rhetorical gibberish. That free stuff ends. There is no life line of free money unless you truly are on disability or something else like that - which is another subject for another day. But who is demonizing those who actually provide jobs.... no now I know from wither end of the poetical spectrum. Those that are being demonized are those who send jobs outside of the country.... yes... they do get demonized. But demonizing real job creators..... hog wash.

What I do question though is what are these people doing that just quit. Are they people of means that they don't need money any more. Are they part of a two income household that is being reduced to a single income. I get this.... I am in that age group where I am expensive... But I am not sure where this money tree is that people are able to just drop out of the job market. They still have bills... needs.... how are they satisfying these.

DSS0225
Midvale, UT

I think it comes down to a combination of things. I suspect the people who have given up are part of a two income household, or living off student loans, are back in with family helping them stay afloat, or simply not paying any bills and waiting for the collection companies to come get their stuff.

I have to agree with the part where employers want the 30year olds with Masters degrees and able to take 30k/year. The economics of that reality work in today's America. The high unemployment rate affects all, educated or not, because the more individuals vying for a job, the less incentive employers have to improve the lives of their employees, and simply sit on record profit margins while paying as low as possible, then stating they can't fill the roles they need to because of a lack of skills. The "Skills Gap" really means "willingness to pay vs. skills desired gap"...

For the record, I'm gainfully employed in a great job with a great company, educated locally in both Computer Science and Accounting. However, I can still see the writing on the wall.

prelax
Murray, UT

@Brave Sir Robin

You claim you have tried to hire someone for 18 months, when I make statements on here, people ask me to qualify it. I'm asking the same. Let's see if we can help you out, 18 months is a long time for a well paying job to sit idle. Why not post the name of the company here, with the type of job, and salary. If people are interested they can use a search engine to find your companies contact information.

I've seen many low paying jobs attract dozens of applications, and help wanted signs staying up for less than a day.

Brahmabull
sandy, ut

Cincinnatus

I am still confused... How in the world can you argue that a $7 - $8 job is WORSE then making $0 per hour? Unless you are on unemployment, then something is definitely better then nothing. Some food on the table is better then no food. You mentioned a place to live... how can you keep that place to live making $0 per hour? Why not take a lower income job for the time being and continue looking for the job you really want?

OneWifeOnly
San Diego, CA

The problem might be the disconnect between qualifications, location and self-awareness. Readers might be interested in examining the entire poll's questions and responses. There is a contradiction between the questions and answers. I'm not sure how someone who has completely given up on looking for a job also expects to find their dream job in the next six months. I noted a full 7% of respondents did not complete high school and only 22% received any type of college degree. The poll also posed a series of jobs and ask the respondents if they'd be willing to accept those jobs. The list included jobs that require education and skill such as medical professionals, graphic designers, and programmers. 83% or higher of respondents were willing to accept these jobs. But, without the education to support the applicant, how can one reasonably expect to receive an interview, let alone a job offer. There were also questions relating to whether the respondent would be willing to relocate. Only 20% were willing to relocate to another city, 15% to another state. It seems like many without education, skill or flexibility expect to be offered their professional dream job without making changed on their end.

happy2bhere
clearfield, UT

I hate to bring current day politics into this (since I'm sure none of you are thinking this way), but doesn't this just scream the need for a change in Washington D.C.? At the TOP?

happy2bhere
clearfield, UT

I'm reading some really sad/troubling posts about people with lots of experience not being able to find any work. It may not help with the big jobs, like management and such, but from experience in hiring the 10 to 15 dollar worker, it is many times the person who does more than just submit a resume' that get the job. The person who calls, and e-mails, and keeps in contact showing a real interest in getting the job is often the person who gets hired. Especially when you are competing with many people who would be qualified for the job. Just a little hopefully helpful suggestion for one of you looking.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

HOWEVER you can bet that Democrats are going to try to make the ridiculous and false suggestion that since unemployment numbers are down (because the labor participation rate is reduced) then the economy must be doing better. Yes as completley false and stupid as this is I can 100% guarantee you that Democrats will try to throw out more propoganda taking advantage of the misleading unemployment numbers and sadly the majority of uninformed / uneducated Americans will beleive it. America is in a death spiral while China is on the rise economically and there is no end in sight.

happy2bhere
clearfield, UT

Of all the seeming failures of the current administration, having discouraged Americans might be the biggest one of all. How sad. We need another "morning in America", instead of our current "mourning in America".

RRB
SLC, UT

"The 47 percent "have completely given up" figure may be a little bit misleading by itself, though. The actual poll found that "7 percent said they 'agree completely,' (with the statement 'I've completely given up on looking for a job.') 7 percent 'agree a lot,' 15 percent 'agree somewhat,' and 18 percent 'agree a little.'""

There is the fine print, the article is misleading.

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