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Published: Friday, May 23 2014 9:45 a.m. MDT

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2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Yes... it's a problem.

But not because they are racist. It's because Democrats have been so successful in using the media to propagate this myth that Republicans are engaged in a war on women, war on blacks, war on Hispanics, war on gays, war on every minority group you can define...

It doesn't have to be true... it just has to be repeated often enough, and by trusted media sources... often enough that most people start to BELIEVE that it's true.

Then it might as well BE true...

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This has been a great campaign the Democrats have been putting on. It has worked. It has gotten them elected many times. But these groups never seem to look into what those Democrats are doing for them. And I think that's the problem... that these groups expect their politicians to do something for them.

If Democrats don't deliver... this campaign will eventually begin to be less and less effective.

You can't pit Americans-against-Americans forever... without tearing America apart.

But they seem to think it's worth it...

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

@2bits, Those democrats, fooling Americans into thinking that republicans say racist things, by playing back media of republicans saying racist things. Perhaps if the republican's didn't make it so easy for the democrats.

Most racism and bigotry are taught and are not a natural state among children.
Looking forward, as more and more racists and bigots die off, they aren't passing on this bad behavior to their children.

What is surprising, was how quickly the conservative posters on the comment boards defended Donald Sterling, as being tricked, or it was OK cause it was in private. While I would defend his right to say these things, I would never defend what he said. It isn't about PC it's about what's right, saying it in private doesn't make it "OK" either.

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

“Ta-Nehisi Coates of The Atlantic argues that the real dangers are ... the much more subtle and less immediately offensive 'elegant racism.' .... 'Elegant racism is invisible, supple, and enduring,....'”
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As I got to the and of this article, with most of which I agreed, I and was struck by the fact that nowhere was mentioned one of the most glaring examples of racism we've seen in our country in decades.

Despite a brief reference to it with the single sentence, "The 2008 election was the most racially charged election in modern America...", it doesn't include the crucial fact that the vote among African-American citizens in favor of Obama in the last two elections was an average of around 95%! He also garnered a majority of votes by people of other races, but by much slimmer and typical margins. How much more obviously lopsided, racially speaking, can a statistic get than this!?

Ironically, to what do I attribute this amazing omission of an example fairly shouting of racism in this article on racism? Yes, you guessed it, racism. Perhaps of Mr. Coates' "elegant" sort

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Yes. And it's not the democrats' fault.

Sven
Morgan, UT

Is this article for real?

Let's deal with some facts and history, shall we?

First, Donald Sterling is a big time Democrat donor. Like other things, the media has desperately tried to ignore that little factoid.

Secondly:

* Jim Crow segregation laws were enacted by Democrats

* The 1924 Democrat National Convention was host to one of the largest Klan gatherings in American history

* The 1964 Civil Rights Act: Democrat support 61%; Republican support 80%. Interestingly, former Democrat Senator Robert K Byrd (former Exalted Cyclops in the KKK) filibustered the 1964 Civil Rights Act, as did Democrat Al Gore Sr.

* Democrat President Franklin Roosevelt gave us the disgraceful Japanese Internment Camps

* Democrat Senator Ernest Hollings and his history of racial slurs towards blacks


* Margaret Sanger, Liberal Icon and founder of Planned Parenthood, in her 1939 "Negro Project" had as her goal, the desire to greatly reduce the Black population, or as she referred to them, "human weeds." Ever wonder why so many Planned Parenthood Centers are in the inner-city? 13 million black babies aborted since 1973.

I could go on, but I think you get the point. It is the Democrat Party who has the documented history of reprehensible acts of bigotry and racism.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@2bits
"It's because Democrats have been so successful in using the media to propagate this myth that Republicans are engaged in a war on women, war on blacks, war on Hispanics, war on gays, war on every minority group you can define..."

Republicans opposed equal pay legislation and reproductive choice, even trying to limit insurance coverage of birth control, support stop-and-frisk, support voter ID laws in states that have negligible record of voter fraud (bit of a sore spot for people who fought for so long to have fair access to the polls), making English the only official language, support Arizona's papers please law on those suspected of being illegal immigrants (yeah I'm sure there'd be no racial profiling at all there...) and oppose same-sex marriage and anti-discrimination measures for sexual orientation.

Really, Democrats often don't have to do a thing other than hold a microphone up to a Republican.

@samhill
"it doesn't include the crucial fact that the vote among African-American citizens in favor of Obama... was an average of around 95%!"

Gore and Kerry got around 90% of the black vote.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Dems must be worried about November, they are dragging out the race card again.

Who are Nate Silver, Allison McCann, and five thirty-eight? What is their agenda?

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Sorry, just because a survey or poll says something that does not make it true. Such surveys or polls are basically a pop quiz on how effective the media propaganda has been. In this case, it has indeed been very effective, and the Democrats and the media (the propaganda arm of the Democrat party) have been branding Republicans as "racist" for decades.

Ignore the fact that any black conservative or Republican is vilified as a sell out, or "Uncle Tom" or "oreo", or that black kids who do well in school are told by their peers to "quit acting white" or that Democrats depend on keeping blacks dependent on welfare to perpetuate their power.

Bigotry does exist in our country, but it is not all racial, and it is not all whites demeaning blacks. Thankfully, the vast majority of Americans really do not care about a person's race, but rather the content of their character. Dr. King would be happy, even if Democrats are worried about losing the support of blacks which Lyndon Johnson asserted would last for 100 years (but that was 50 years ago).

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

EVERYTHING... is a problem for the GOP if you listen to some people.

Mark B
Eureka, CA

African American ties to the Democratic Party didn't start with Obama. John Kerry also got about (or maybe it was OVER) 90% of black voters. They noticed guys like Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond become GOP converts, and knew that was NOT who they wanted to be with.

slcdenizen
Murray, UT

By not recognizing racism, both historical and contemporary, is racism by omission. Most Republicans are definitely guilty as charged.

slcdenizen
Murray, UT

@Lost in DC

"Who are Nate Silver, Allison McCann, and five thirty-eight? What is their agenda?"

They are data analysts that rely on statistics and reality who accurately predict elections. Or, in other words, the liberal media.

Sven
Morgan, UT

Schnee said:

"Republicans opposed equal pay legislation..."

You are aware that Obama pays his female WH Staff 14-18% less than his male staff...right?

You are aware that Liberal icon NYTs fired executive, Jill Abramson, because she demanded the same pay that her male counterparts made...right?

We'll just assume you forgot to mention these.

Esquire
Springville, UT

If the GOP doesn't have a big race problem (it does), it is only going to get worse.

And after years of observations, you will never convince me that the unprecedented opposition to President Obama doesn't have racial discrimination involved in it. The Tea Party is clearly driven in large part by racial prejudice. Those on the right will deny it, but the problem is still there, and most of us can see it. Minority populations certainly do.

Mikhail
ALPINE, UT

A clever way of telling lies is to change the definition of a word. "Racism" appears to have meant something different to Martin Luther King that those who put "racism" out there as a huge problem. I believe that there is much more judgment made about content of character now - of all races - than there was when he walked and talked on the earth. It would appear now that if the content of character is judged, depending on the skin color and the political of the speaker, the charge of racism may or not be applied.

By the way, historically speaking, it was Senate Democrats who organized to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and Republicans in the House and Senate favored the Bill by a much larger percentage than the Democrats.

Racism and Bigotry, in their original meaning, are things not to be valued. Loving our neighbors, as ourselves, should be the objective of civilized society.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@Mark B, Schnee, and others...

RE: "John Kerry also got OVER 90% of black voters"...

Actually John Kerry got 88% (according to Yahoo answers)

That's what I'm talking about. Shnee says it (as if it's fact). Mark B hears and repeats it (as if it's fact). And pretty soon everybody believes it...

Political hacks do this... just hear something they like... and repeat it (as if fact) without checking it. And pretty soon we've all heard it enough times... that we ASSUME it's FACT!

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Kerry did not get 90% of the black vote. And Obama didn't just get 90%. He got 93%! The GOP challenger got only 6%! Google "10 Amazing Demographic Percentages of the 2012 Election" (National Journal)

That's what I'm talking about when I say this has been a VERY successful campaign. I don't think we could get 93% of Americans to agree on ANYTHING...

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And Obama didn't just get 96% of their votes... they voted in larger numbers than any election in history!

Google "Blacks outvoted whites in 2012, the first time on record" (CNN News)

66% of total eligible black voters voted... only 64.1% of white voters voted.

gmlewis
Houston, TX

@slcdenizen: "By not recognizing racism, both historical and contemporary, is racism by omission. Most Republicans are definitely guilty as charged."

You lost me. I'm racist if I don't recognize any racist feelings in myself? Guilty until proven innocent?

"Graceful racism?" What are earth is that!

Racism is not the same thing as Culturism, recognizing that there are general characteristics in common in people of specific cultures. For example, as a general rule Texan's have an affinity for the word Y'all. I say it all the time.

I think y'all got it wrong.

Sven
Morgan, UT

Mark B said:

"African American ties to the Democratic Party didn't start with Obama. John Kerry also got about (or maybe it was OVER) 90% of black voters. They noticed guys like Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond become GOP converts, and knew that was NOT who they wanted to be with."

Interesting. So, I guess the Black Community wants to align themselves with the Party that:


- Enacted "Jim Crow" Segregation Laws

- Voted in the minority in the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act (Democrat support 61%; Republican support 80%). Interestingly, Democrat Senators Robert Byrd and Al Gore Sr. filibustered this historic legislation

- Placed Democrats with history of racism in positions of power like former Democrat Senator (President pro tem) Robert Byrd. Senator Byrd was a former Exalted Cyclops in the KKK.


- Gave us Japanese Internment Camps a la President Franklin Roosevelt

You're right, being part of the Democrat Party has been so much better for minorities.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I wonder what people would say if 93% of WHITE voters voted for ANY candidate... it would be denounced as "racism". And they would be right...

Wonder
Provo, UT

I wonder what percent of Mormons voted for Romney? Clearly they hate everyone of every other religion. Makes as much sense as saying blacks hate whites (i.e. are racist) because they voted for Obama. Oh, yeah, when I do something it's ok. When anyone else does it, they aren't. Typical tea party Republican response to everything. As usual, they can't put themselves in anyone else's shoes. Look at it this way. You know how you really, really liked Romney because you agreed with his politics and it was also pretty cool that he was LDS? Well, maybe black people felt the same way -- they agreed with his politics, and they thought it was pretty cool that he was going to be the first black president. Liking his politics counted a lot more than the fact that Obama was black (hence the black community's lack of support for Herman Cain, e.g.)

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