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Published: Thursday, May 22 2014 4:12 p.m. MDT

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NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

rtimesr2
ALTADENA, CA said:

"@ Uncle Rico:
Try Nebraska and Michigan in 2015; Arizona, Utah, West Virgina in 2016; Utah, Cal in 2017; Arizona, Wisconsin, Utah in 2018; wisconsin, Virgina, USC, Wasington State in 2019; Arizona, Arizona State, Stanford, Virginia in 2020. Throw in Boise State every year too. Get you facts straight."

Yeah great, they are scheduled to play them. Any of those schools can back out at any time. Has happened before to BYU. With the new playoff format, expect more to happen.

NW Ron
ENUMCLAW, WA

Outside the state of Utah, BYU sports has consistently been a positive tool to increase name recognition of the church.
Inside the state of Utah, a group of "nay sayers" consistently try to dull the luster on BYU sports to promote their own agenda.
This includes Brad Rock - head "nay sayer" and general "reluctant fan" for BYU.

Old But Not Stupid
Moorpark, CA

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

"'Upsets happen and are just that... upsets. By definition, they don't usually mean much.'

Wrong. Upsets can define or ruin an entire season."

Two FF- did you mean to state that you agreed with the poster you quoted? He used a qualifier ("usually") and you avoided any qualifier such as "always" or "usually." Your simple usage of the word "can" which leaves your assertion ambiguous. This ambiguity leaves very little difference between the the two statements.

So do you want to revise your statement?

Wookie
Omaha, NE

I agree with the posts regarding how long the Church Leadership will tolerate how embarrasing BYU sports and some of their fans have become. This is no missionary tool. This is not representative of our faith. This is sad. I personally hope that BYU sports goes away and that they focus on efforts to display what good our faith does in the world. Once upon a time sports was clean, entertaining and uplifting. Now, when one wins a championship in the backs of most individual's minds, we ask, were they taking PEDs, was it rigged, was betting to blame, etc... I think BYU should focus on becoming the Harvard of the West and use the brain power and resources that are already there, and use it for good. Sports has not proven to meet this expectation of me and many others of this faith.

Go UTES!!

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Old But Not Stupid

The context is not properly portrayed in the small segment that I quoted. It was obvious that the OP was downplaying upsets that happen. He cited Utah beating Stanford and UVA beating BYU as examples of such. I personally disagree. Upsets are what make CFB so great, and they happen on a weekly basis. If they didn't then there would no need to even play a season. Just release pre-season rankings and that would be that....

#1 SLC Sports Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

@U-PAC: It isn't president Monson's decision alone, but rather the combined 1st Presidency & Twelve in conjunction with the Board of Trustees whom these brethren rotate on and off. There has been without question debate over the years about the future of college athletics at BYU, how it potentially detracts from the mission of state schools, as well as the future of post-graduate academics;
--The Law School could also be closed in a New York minute due to the John Swallow Scandal, and no doubt has been discussed.
--Some of the brethren have no doubt long opposed BYU attempting to move into a P5 league athletic alignemnt with either the Big 12 or Pac-12 feeling this will further make irrelevant the athletic programs of Utah State University, which is all BYU has really accomplished over the past half century.
What "could" happen at Utah Valley University with ahtletic program growth could be the wildcard in any future decision making about BYU and the future.

81Ute
Central, UT

Mr Rock are you insinuating that other schools have something to do with this? What is the purpose of this statement?
'Which brings up something else that occurs at most big college programs: jealousy and rivalries.'
Is this an attempt to deflect blame to some other university?

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

bradleyc:

"BYU will be just fine and football will go on."

What a great example of a true blue coug. For it has been written:

"And there shall also be many which shall say: Eat, drink, and be merry; nevertheless, fear the NCAA-it will justify in committing some infractions; yea lie a little, give advantage to one because of his recruit star rating, dig a pit they big brother to the north; there is no harm in this; and do all these things, for tomorrow we can point the finger at somebody else; and if is so be that we are guilty, the NCAA will let the refs throw garbage on us, and at last we shall be saved with a Big 12 invite."

Meckofahess
Salt Lake City, UT

Wow, what a bunch of over-reaction about nothing!. I say relax and get ready for another exciting season. Hope Utah's season is more exciting than it has been the last three years - can't be much fun going to the rump on the hump sofa bowl again after having another losing season.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

Maybe it is time to quit intercollegiate athletics at BYU

iNKSpot
Wilsonville, OR

I remember years ago at an Education Week presentation before hundreds of fans Coach Edwards cautioned all present against providing anything to athletes that might possibly be viewed as contrary to NCAA rules because of how it would reflect on the University and, ultimately, the Church.

GK Willington
Salt Lake City, UT

re: Brave Sir Robin

"...you have to wonder how long church leadership is going to continue to allow the church to be embarrassed. I doubt this latest scandal will have people flocking to the waters of baptism."

The church did nothing to offer a caveat when Glenn Beck was spouting off about Social Justice. So, I doubt anything will be done this time.

Now, if you so naive or shallow enough to let a college football program have any bearing on "real life" then you need a serious wake up call.

Pendergast
Salt Lake City, UT

RE Wookie;

"BYU should focus on becoming the Harvard of the West"

Byu isn't even the Northwestern of Utah County, but, its better to aim for the stars & miss then aim for mud puddle and hit it dead on."

BleedCougarBlue
Enid, OK

Article quote: "Utah ran afoul of the governing body in the 1980s for providing Jason Buck a 12-mile ride home after a recruiting visit. Former Ute basketball coach Rick Majerus got in trouble for things like providing cookies to players and taking them to a restaurant. Utah State fired a tennis coach for violating recruiting rules. Ron Abegglen, the former Weber State basketball coach, loaned his pickup to a player and ended up getting sanctioned."

Many of the NCAA's rules regarding "gifts", etc to players are not only ridiculous (trouble for giving someone a whopping 12-mile ride?) they are hypocritical in the extreme.

Big-time University X: "Our coach can't give you a so much as his half-eaten Twinkie because it costs money but yet we'll make MILLIONS off of you."

Riiiight.....

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