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Published: Thursday, May 22 2014 4:12 p.m. MDT

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bradleyc
Layton, UT

BYU will be just fine and football will go on.

DonO
Draper, UT

This is more evidence to me that major college football, and all the obvious negatives that go with it, are out of sync with the stated mission of BYU and its owners. Unless or until both BYU and the LDS Church come to grips with and take steps to deal with this reality, what is normal for other schools will continue to be a distracting scandal at BYU and, by extension, Church headquarters.

Pearl.94
Riverton, UT

I have always been under the impression that athletic scholarships include room and board. Is that not true? I know that dorms and on-campus living might not be ideal. Are some athletes just too cool to live on campus in the 'free' housing that is part of the scholarship?

Brio
Alpine, UT

So someone gives a kid a ride home or a coach gives a player a slice of pizza... and that's supposed to be a notable infraction of rules? That both sounds and seems utterly ridiculous.

We've gone way beyond the intent and purpose of the original NCAA sports rules to worrying too much about the letter of the law... and there are now way too many letters written into the rules. It's become silly and is creating issues where and when there really shouldn't be any. The original intent of such rules has been lost in many instances.

daver
Provo, 00

Just when the team seemed to have all of the elements for a formidable secondary and a workable offense - now some key offensive players may have to sit. Shades of Crowton's demise. Thanks to all involved - just like in Crowton's deal: THE TIMING COULDN'T HAVE BEEN BETTER!

Idahotransplant
West Jordan, UT

If all this happened over the years and the if BYU has known about it sinch March, they have been quick to discipline (Brandon Davies, Harvey Unga, Spencer Handley, etc.). If they new of current athletes then wouldn't one want to speculate that those who may have been involved did not participate in Spring football?

Stringer Bell
Henderson, NV

Brio

"Ranked-team road-wins actually mean more to national ranking services."

Yes they do, providing you win the game. Losing to an "actual" bottom dweller like Virginia means more to national ranking services too. Be careful, it works both ways.

FT
salt lake city, UT

When you mix a missionary tool with athletics you get a lot more attention whether it's deserved or not. Outside of a few zealots, nobody actually believes when you do things right, on and off the field, magic happens.

Brio
Alpine, UT

@ Stringer Bell:

What part of "ranked-team road-wins" is anything but a win to you or anyone else? It's a simple straight forward term that means exactly what it says... wins. So exactly why should I need to be careful?

Most people and ranking services can keep the occasional upset that nearly every team experiences into proper context and will seldom read too much into singular instances like Utah tend to do.
Stanford's upset loss to a team like Utah (that hasn't been ranked in years) didn't ruin their season. And neither did BYU's loss to Virginia. Pundits saw that BYU statistically dominated that game with literally 50% more first-downs and yardage (both passing and running). As such, it was seen as fluke.
Upsets happen and are just that... upsets. By definition, they don't usually mean much.

Utah has beaten BYU for several years in a row. And yet national ranking services tout BYU's wins over a ranked Texas team or a previously unbeaten Houston team (on the road) as much more meaningful. BYU has continued to spend much more time nationally ranked than Utah through all those years.

Dutchman
Murray, UT

What is so bad about following the Gonzaga model? Drop the football program and play basketball in the WCC along with Gonzaga and allow the other sports to compete there as well.

Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT

bradleyc
Layton, UT
BYU will be just fine and football will go on.

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I love reading these replies.

It's the go-to for ignorist fans who don't want to give a serious look at the problem(s) because they are afraid of what they might find and the possible repercussions.

Instead, they choose to make believe everything is "just fine."

Hilarious.

SEC Rules
Seminole, FL

Say it aint so, Bronco !

32843
PROVO, UT

Moderate
Salt Lake City, UT
"That's one way to get exposure on ESPN."

It's the only way Utah would get exposure on ESPN.

caleb in new york
Glen Cove, NY

These boards are the go-to for people to come and overreact. If BYU is guilty of infractions, I hope they receive a fair and full punishment. I assume it would at most be like loss of a scholarship or two, a reduction of a few recruit hosting days, etc.

In the grand scheme of morality, this is like a parking violation. Sure it was incosiderate of the person who illegally parked, but he can pay the ticket without needing some drastic punishment to his driving privileges.

Oatmeal
Woods Cross, UT

If this story grows, BYU football is in serious trouble. Perhaps it is severe enough under the current scheduling conditions that we could see an exit strategy developed to eventually get BYU out of college football. In the long run, while it may break my football-loving heart, it may be better for BYU. BYU could then become more about academics and faith.

Adirondack Cougar
Loon Lake, NY

This article isn't that alarming, from what is known now. The U fans have visions of free cars, housing, trips etc. to players, something that would cause a 'death sentence' to the program by the NCAA. And they seem to delight in the possibility. I don't doubt that something happened, and as soon as it was discovered it was dealt with. None of us is perfect and we all make mistakes, so let's see what the mistake was.........free pair of socks or free cars? The punishment will fit the crime. Utah fans might want to slow down a little, it could be your turn next.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

"Upsets happen and are just that... upsets. By definition, they don't usually mean much."

Wrong. Upsets can define or ruin an entire season.

Ed Grady
Idaho Falls, ID

Yawn....

CA. reader
Rocklin, CA

How do get from BYU conducting an internal investigation to the death of football and all sports at BYU? Some of you folks are either so caught up in these things that you have no grasp of reality or you simply have no grasp of reality. Give it a rest. All your carping isn't going to get Utah out of the PAC10.2 cellar. My confidence lies with the BYU staff and the board, who happen to be General Authorities.

Guam_Bomb
BARRIGADA, GU

This really shouldn't be a huge issue. Nobody even knows what's happened because the investigation is just starting and people are already predicting the death of the program. If something has happened it will be dealt with in an appropriate manner, BYU's leadership has consistently shown a commitment to running a clean program.

As a Utah fan, I take no pleasure in seeing BYU's program facing this type of investigation. What seems to get lost in all the noise is that hundreds of young men have done things the right way over the years. It's must be a huge disappointment for those who are currently in the program to potentially see their opportunities diminished because a few didn't follow the rules.

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