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Published: Wednesday, May 21 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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embarrassed Utahn!
Salt Lake City, UT

When someone complains of a "slowpoke" in the HOV lane, you can bet they mean someone who obeys the LAW.

The LAWS level the playing field, make roads safer, and make our communities livable.

Obeying LAWS is also patriotic and we all know how patriotic Utahns are, right?

happy2bhere
clearfield, UT

You ought to drive in the Dallas Texas area if you want to see toll roads. I do agree however that there should be more opportunity to get in and out of the HOV lanes. And, signs that say if a car is going less than the speed limit and holding up traffic behind them, they are subject to a ticket. Let the slowpokes drive in the right lanes.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

I go every where with my girl. I like to set the cruise control and scoot along in the HOV lane. The only thing that irks me in traffic is the companion system. You know, that car that hangs with the passenger rear door, mile after mile.

wrz
Phoenix, AZ

"In addition, there are no double white lines keeping you trapped behind slowpoke drivers."

If you're trapped in the HOV from slowpoke drivers it likely because you're violating speed limit laws.

"These lines invite drivers to violate the law to get around them."

Why would you be concerned about violating the HOV double whites when you seemingly have no concern about violating the speed limit laws? Of the two laws, speed limit laws are the more critical since statistics show that speeding is the major cause of death on the freeways.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

"In addition, there are no double white lines keeping you trapped behind slowpoke drivers."

I have YET to be trapped behind a slowpoke in the HOV lane.
The speed limit is 65 mph.

If we are going to kick out those who break the laws of this land,
We should be doing it with ALL of them.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Erik,
I agree 100% with every point you made. I've been saying the same thing since we started them. We have a weird system here...

I think having the tiny exit zones actually makes traffic LESS safe. Because when you get to them there's a wild dash of everybody who's wanted to get out for the last 10 miles... and everybody who wanted to get IN for the last 10 miles... trying to get out/in before the dotted line ends. And there's usually that guy who stays right by your side or closes any gaps (if you signal) so you can't get in/out (it's a Utah thing).

I'm sometimes uneasy in the express-lane when they know I need to get across 5 lanes of traffic soon to make my exit and it's getting close... but I'm trapped by the double-white line until the point where the line painter decided everybody should be free to change lanes and make their exits...

Let people get in/out when they NEED To (not when the line let's them)... It's safer than the messy now-or-never mesh-points the current system creates.

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

I am beyond grateful that I don't have to deal with Salt Lake traffic but once or twice a month.

And the HOV lane? I don't use it. I HAVE been stuck behind a slowpoke in the HOV lane...more than once. And, despite the broad brush with which so many paint here, it wasn't because I was speeding or attempting to speed.

Not to mention the whole "jump in / jump out" rule.

"By dang, I got six kids and my woman in this here mini van and I'm going to get every last mile out of this special multiple kid lane, even if its at 56 mph!"

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT
"By dang, I got six kids and my woman in this here mini van and I'm going to get every last mile out of this special multiple kid lane, even if its at 56 mph!"

12:16 p.m. May 21, 2014

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And 56 mph is 56 mph faster than a traffic jam.

BTW -- 56 mph and hitting a parked car in traffic is like running into a brick wall.

45 mph in the far right hand lane is 100% legal,
and Tail Gating is illegal at ANY speed.

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

Does anyone in this forum realize that "breaking" traffic laws is NOT criminal?

SG in SLC
Salt Lake City, UT

I have issues with a several different "features" on Utah roadways (e.g., Continuous Flow Interchanges), but the HOV lane is not one of them. The trick is knowing when and how to use the HOV lanes. There are times when the ability to change lanes freely outweighs any potential advantages of driving in the HOV lane, and other times when the comparative lack of congestion in the HOV lane outweighs the potential to change lanes freely (sometimes very LIMITED potential, when there has been an incident somewhere ahead during rush hour). It is also advisable to exit the HOV lane one "dashed line HOV exit" prior to the one designated for one's chosen freeway exit, allowing for extra distance to safely maneuver across lanes.

Some people I know may have a tendency to drive with the flow of traffic, even when that means occasionally exceeding the speed limit (I’m admitting nothing, personally; I’m a Constitutionalist who firmly believes in Fifth Amendment rights), but that requires extra safety precautions, being a courteous driver, and understanding that driving with the traffic flow sometimes means driving slower than the speed limit when conditions warrant.

Don Bixby
Centerville, UT

Keep right except to pass. Anyone who has driven on the Autobahns in Germany understands how much more efficiently it works if you stay out of people's way. Yes, speeding is bad. But blocking people by driving slowly in the left lane which should be primarily for passing is as bad, if not worse, because instead of worrying about yourself, you're trying to be judge_jury_executioner of everyone around you. A UHP spokesman recently said it is not your job to slow others down that you think are driving too fast. A car going fast but straight is predictable. Cars driving slowly where you expect them to go fast and forcing others to swerve into other lanes is unpredictable, thus bad. Not allowing others to merge in front of you by riding their blindspot and moving up when you see someone trying to get in is as illegal as the speeders or those blocking the fast lane. You have to drive to allow enough space that a car can merge in between you and the car in front of you and allow that to happen. Whatever the law is, just be kind, and we'll all benefit.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

the double white lines create bottlenecks and choke hazzards. Whoever designed them should have his head examined.

LDS Lib,
why am I not surprised that you want to force the person behind you in the HOV lane to go no more than 65? I recall another individual who put forth a plan to force everyone to do right.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

Funny, I've never had any problem with the HOV lane except getting out of it at 4th South to get over to the West Valley exit.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

I agree it would be nice to get rid of the double yellow lines.

gmlewis
Houston, TX

I've been using Houston's HOV lane on I-45 for decades, and we don't use a double white line. Instead, we have cement blocks lining both sides of the HOV lane that runs down the middle of the highway. There are only a very few entrances and exits, and the HOV traffic flows south to downtown Houston in the morning, and north away from downtown in the evening.

The system works very well ... unless somebody's car breaks down in between the exits. At those times, I would prefer dealing with the double white lines.

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