Wealth creationGod created it - the 1% tries to keep it all for
themselves - we have some taxes left to try to fix some of the maldistribution.
Conservatives like to start in the middle and believe they actually
created wealth. Chuckle.
@2 bits" But as long as people keep taking these positions at the low
wages... they won't fail."Poor, long-term unemployed type
people tend to not have much leverage in these situations since they kinda need
@Mike Richards. Value has nothing to do with it. If there is an over supply of
labor then it doesn't matter if you are highly skilled.
Everyone wants to think they are #1 but as far as quality of life, productivity
and standard of living the Swiss are kicking our trash!
Why do I get the feeling that this is just another attempt by localities to take
advantage of people and keep paying them bad wages?For 30 years we
have seen the poor and middle class losing their wealth. Even though their
productivity has gone up. So where has our wealth gone?I get tired
of the GOP hurting us just to help their top campaign donors.
This letter missed out on some historical facts. First, the minimum wage
wasn't enacted to make sure workers had a minimum standard of living. The
minimum wage laws were first enacted to prevent construciton companies from
hiring poor blacks from the south and bringing them to NY and undercut the Union
labor. Historically speaking, minimum wage laws were put in place to keep
unions alive.The other problem is that raising the minimum wage will
not eliminate poverty. Just look at Switzerland. They keep raising their
minimum wage, and their products keep costing more and more. The poor earn more
money, but then it costs more to live.
What's missing is "minimum wage = minimum value". Before a
"minimum wage" can be effective, there needs to be a minimum level of
ability. No one would hire someone to mow their lawn if that person did not have
the demonstrated ability to mow a lawn. Giving someone a "minimum wage"
just because that person draws breath is absurd. Demonstrated ability precedes
being hired. Being hired requires the employee to have already met certain
standards. Even the government requires applicants to demonstrate their ability
to do a job. To assume that someone has "value" in the marketplace just
because that person draws breath, is refuted by the government's hiring
@Schnee,I know some people who work at Walmart. They make a lot of money
(way more than minimum wage). They are happy there. So you may be waiting a
long time.What needs to happen is... people who don't make
minimum wage at these companies leave... then even Walmart would have to pay
more for these positions. But as long as people keep taking these positions at
the low wages... they won't fail.That's what I mean when I
say, "we have to have guts... and let them fail". Don't take their
jobs... they WILL change... or fail.If Walmart is not hiring people
who make you want to shop there... don't shop there... and if enough people
do that... they will fail.
@2bits"because the ones that are dumb enough to think they can attract
good employees with low wages... will fail (eventually)."Still
waiting on Walmart to fail.
Esquire,How is this not a local issue?-Where would it have to
be implemented and enforced (hint... locally)-And where would the impact
be felt first and most (locally)Why must it be done Federally (or
Nation-wide)?-Does it take the same income to live in LA or Manhattan as
it does in Texas or Utah? (No) So why have the same minimum in Utah as you
need in Manhattan?-Are local's not able to know what minimum
works there? Must it be determined by people in Washington DC?-Or
is it just that you feel you have such good control of what happens in
Washington... that you feel it must be done there (and not left to local
folks)?I think it could be done even better at a local level. A
Bureaucrat in Washington has no idea what it takes to live in Panguitch Utah...
And this will affect wages in Panguitch Utah... Some small town businesses
may decide they can't do it and close or move... how does that HELP
unemployment in these small rural towns?
In places like this you can't count on local elected officials to have the
interests of low wage earners in mind.
We already have local minimum wage laws. A minimum national standard is
appropriate, and if localities want a higher one, they may do so. This is not a
local issue, it has national implications for the economy.
I agree the minimum wage should be a "local" thing. Not at the National
level. Not even at the State, or the City level. It should be set at the
Organization level!Not all organizations should need to have the
same minimum wage.The minimum wage at McDonalds may not be the same
as the minimum needed at a Mechanic Shop, a bank, a law office, or a software
company.Let each organization/company set the minimum wage for their
company... what an idea!Kinda fits in a "Free Market
Economy"... which is the model we have.===But we
need to have the guts to let some company's fail too... because the ones
that are dumb enough to think they can attract good employees with low wages...
will fail (eventually).We need to LET THEM fail... so they can be
replaced by better companies (that pay better wages). We seem to keep propping
them up (so they can keep paying low wages, getting minimally qualified
employees, and giving their customers low quality service).Those
companies need to go away in the natural way... not by government fiat. And be
replaced with better companies.
Quote"Conservatives argue that the minimum wage resembles price fixing and
planned economies..." ironic since any sincere scrutiny into the
fast food industry that is largely profiting from low minimum wages also employ
price fixing on 99 cent menus enabled by the GOVERNMENT subsidized potatoes,
other vegetables and beef they get much cheaper than the average consumer.They pay 16 cents a pound for frozen fries while you pay $2 a pound for
the same frozen fries at the store. You pay something around $10 a pound at the
fast food restaurant. And STILL subsidized by your tax dollars. Get
the farmers off the dole first.
Republican legislatures in several states have recently passed laws prohibiting
city and county governments from raising the minimum wage. So there goes that