Published: Tuesday, May 20 2014 1:30 p.m. MDT
BYU is a great university for Mormons. They are in a comfortable environment so
that they can listen to other ideas and perspectives without the pressure that
plagues the majority of universities to accept radical or unusual views. They
are not being indoctrinated, but rather exposed to new ideas. My favorite
class at the U of U was a world religions class, and I saw so many Mormons feel
threatened by new ideas and it interrupted the learning that could have taken
place for them and others. If this professor only received a complaint once in a
two year term, It appears that BYU is creating the right environment to get
through to the more religious students. ...of course when it comes
to sports, no kind words... ;-)
A couple of months ago someone in this opinion. page speculated that because BYU
was associated with religion that certain viiewpoints would be censored. A
couple of weeks later Stanford ran into problems for censoring someone.At some point in time liberal has been redefined and we did not pick up on it.
BYU is a lot more tolerant than other universities that fall all over
themselves with their more " liberal than thou attitudes".
Harry Reid spoke at my BYU law school graduation. But I wish he wouldn't
have. All he did was talk about himself, and how cool his story was coming out
of Searchlight, Nevada, blah blah blah. It was a yawner of a commencement
This was my experience as well while a student. BYU offers course in all of the
traditional, major academic disciplines and I never had a sense that any topic
One might be shocked that at BYU I was able to take a class on world religions
from a guest professor who was Buddhist. Philosophical ideas ranging from Cleon
Skousen to Karl Marx were discussed. In Biology (gasp people), Evolution was
taught. At the library I could access about any periodical imaginable. I
regularly attended forums that featured speakers from all walks of life who were
on both sides of the political aisle. Again, I expected BYU to be a
conservative environment (which it generally was a let's be realistic) but
I was actually pleasantly surprised at the diversity of ideas our professors
brought and even the administration allowed through guest lecturers, forums etc.
Again, I'm not saying BYU is CU or Cal-Berkley or anything but I think
there is more to the place than meets the eye.
Well, once you consider the fact that Jesus was himself Liberal, and taught
Liberal ideas and Doctrines....Then BYU SHOULD be a beacon of
to FlashbackByu is far from a classical liberal (Libertarian)
Environment too.re: wwookieInteresting. A little turmoil
is good. Case in point; Switzerland and Italy in the middle ages. Switzerland
was calm while Italy had all types of chaos. From Italy, we got
DaVinci, Michelangelo, etc... essentially the Renaissance. Whereas
Switzerland is known for banking, chocolate, & clocks.
re: Understands MathThe curriculum for most Social Science &
Humanities programs at Baylor have a course or two related to the bible. Byu is nowhere near as "structured"; kudos to the school in
Provo. I believe Notre Dame, Boston College, & Georgetown are relatively
open minded as well.
Progressive vs regressive thinking?They'll choose regressive every
to Golden EagleA boring speech related to the legal profession? I am
shocked, amazed, & astounded? Not really.
I taught at BYU, in the business school no less, for 9 years. I was the resident
anti-corporate on the faculty. Never did an administrator set foot in my
classroom. Not once was I told what I could or couldn't teach. It was
understood that you would get in trouble for attacking the Church or its
leaders. But I had a great deal of freedom regarding what I taught, even if it
went against the grain of what was "approved" dogma in the business
curriculum. I'm sure the administrators in the business department reviewed
the student evaluations of my teaching carefully. But they consistently gave me
And yet... BYU is still a respected University and attracts top students and
faculty nationally and internationally.Despite all the complaining
from some... they seem to be able to do an adequate job at BYU. Many of their
graduates excel and are very successful academically, socially, and
@Vanceone...Liberals that posses Ivy League Degrees are quite aware of what a
"classic liberal education" entails.
I'm far from a BYU apologist, the reality is, the stifling hypersensitive
political correctness run amok is so pervasive that BYU is now a place that
promotes more diversity of discussion than the overwhelming majority of American
colleges, i.e., allows more tolerance than the self proclaimed pop culture
"people of tolerance". Yes there are specific topics that can be
identified that are off limits at BYU, but overall, it promotes more freedom of
speech and ideas. What a sad state of affairs.
How funny.... It is most amusing that some have tragically cross link a liberal
education with politics. They are hardly the same thing. A conservative can
just as easily challenge the status quo, seeking understanding and further
enlightenment, and still maintain conservative values.The problem is
definition of the word liberal has been hijacked by a select group of people in
the media and warped the meaning into something resembling hard to rationalize.
Joseph Smith was a progressive in that he challenged the common thinking of the
day around religion and the nature of God - even the meaning of life. Many
great theological minds throughout history have been devoutly conservative, and
yet were progressive or even liberal when it came to looking for greater meaning
than the common thought of the day allowed.But to some, all things
are political, and can't see beyond the media frenzied rhetoric.
Seldom Seen SmithOrcutt, CAI'm far from a BYU apologist, the
reality is, the stifling hypersensitive political correctness run amok is so
pervasive that BYU is now a place that promotes more diversity of discussion
than the overwhelming majority of American colleges, i.e., allows more tolerance
than the self proclaimed pop culture "people of tolerance". Yes there
are specific topics that can be identified that are off limits at BYU, but
overall, it promotes more freedom of speech and ideas. What a sad state of
affairs.1:02 p.m. May 21, 2014====== Really?Like - Legalized medical marijuana?SSM?Immigration reform?Wars in the Middle East?Utah's horrible
air pollution?Recycling?Universal Healthcare?The Occupy
WallStreet movement?I'd bet my last dollar you mention ONE of
those topics, and Campus Security would walk you out, and call your
Bishop.Face it, NuSkin products and other NetWork marketing
"get rich quick" schemes are about the most controversial topics of
conversation you'll ever hear at BYU.BTW -- Do they still have
an active "spy-ring" ratting out "Liberal" professors down there
at the "Y" like they did back in my day?If they do -
it's a "secret"...
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