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Published: Tuesday, May 20 2014 8:16 p.m. MDT

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wwookie
Payson, UT

BYU is a great university for Mormons. They are in a comfortable environment so that they can listen to other ideas and perspectives without the pressure that plagues the majority of universities to accept radical or unusual views. They are not being indoctrinated, but rather exposed to new ideas.
My favorite class at the U of U was a world religions class, and I saw so many Mormons feel threatened by new ideas and it interrupted the learning that could have taken place for them and others. If this professor only received a complaint once in a two year term, It appears that BYU is creating the right environment to get through to the more religious students.

...of course when it comes to sports, no kind words... ;-)

Tekakaromatagi
Dammam, Saudi Arabia

A couple of months ago someone in this opinion. page speculated that because BYU was associated with religion that certain viiewpoints would be censored. A couple of weeks later Stanford ran into problems for censoring someone.

At some point in time liberal has been redefined and we did not pick up on it. BYU is a lot more tolerant than other universities that fall all over themselves with their more " liberal than thou attitudes".

Golden Eagle
Holladay, UT

Harry Reid spoke at my BYU law school graduation. But I wish he wouldn't have. All he did was talk about himself, and how cool his story was coming out of Searchlight, Nevada, blah blah blah. It was a yawner of a commencement speech.

Andre
Kaysville, UT

This was my experience as well while a student. BYU offers course in all of the traditional, major academic disciplines and I never had a sense that any topic was off-limits.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

One might be shocked that at BYU I was able to take a class on world religions from a guest professor who was Buddhist. Philosophical ideas ranging from Cleon Skousen to Karl Marx were discussed. In Biology (gasp people), Evolution was taught. At the library I could access about any periodical imaginable. I regularly attended forums that featured speakers from all walks of life who were on both sides of the political aisle. Again, I expected BYU to be a conservative environment (which it generally was a let's be realistic) but I was actually pleasantly surprised at the diversity of ideas our professors brought and even the administration allowed through guest lecturers, forums etc. Again, I'm not saying BYU is CU or Cal-Berkley or anything but I think there is more to the place than meets the eye.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Well, once you consider the fact that Jesus was himself Liberal, and taught Liberal ideas and Doctrines....

Then BYU SHOULD be a beacon of Liberal learning!

Mister J
Salt Lake City, UT

to Flashback

Byu is far from a classical liberal (Libertarian) Environment too.

re: wwookie

Interesting. A little turmoil is good. Case in point; Switzerland and Italy in the middle ages. Switzerland was calm while Italy had all types of chaos.

From Italy, we got DaVinci, Michelangelo, etc... essentially the Renaissance.

Whereas Switzerland is known for banking, chocolate, & clocks.

Mister J
Salt Lake City, UT

re: Understands Math

The curriculum for most Social Science & Humanities programs at Baylor have a course or two related to the bible.

Byu is nowhere near as "structured"; kudos to the school in Provo. I believe Notre Dame, Boston College, & Georgetown are relatively open minded as well.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Progressive vs regressive thinking?
They'll choose regressive every time.

GK Willington
Salt Lake City, UT

to Golden Eagle

A boring speech related to the legal profession? I am shocked, amazed, & astounded? Not really.

Lew Scannon
Provo, UT

I taught at BYU, in the business school no less, for 9 years. I was the resident anti-corporate on the faculty. Never did an administrator set foot in my classroom. Not once was I told what I could or couldn't teach. It was understood that you would get in trouble for attacking the Church or its leaders. But I had a great deal of freedom regarding what I taught, even if it went against the grain of what was "approved" dogma in the business curriculum. I'm sure the administrators in the business department reviewed the student evaluations of my teaching carefully. But they consistently gave me their support.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

And yet... BYU is still a respected University and attracts top students and faculty nationally and internationally.

Despite all the complaining from some... they seem to be able to do an adequate job at BYU. Many of their graduates excel and are very successful academically, socially, and economically.

Jimmytheliberal
Salt Lake City, UT

@Vanceone...Liberals that posses Ivy League Degrees are quite aware of what a "classic liberal education" entails.

Seldom Seen Smith
Orcutt, CA

I'm far from a BYU apologist, the reality is, the stifling hypersensitive political correctness run amok is so pervasive that BYU is now a place that promotes more diversity of discussion than the overwhelming majority of American colleges, i.e., allows more tolerance than the self proclaimed pop culture "people of tolerance". Yes there are specific topics that can be identified that are off limits at BYU, but overall, it promotes more freedom of speech and ideas. What a sad state of affairs.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

How funny.... It is most amusing that some have tragically cross link a liberal education with politics. They are hardly the same thing. A conservative can just as easily challenge the status quo, seeking understanding and further enlightenment, and still maintain conservative values.

The problem is definition of the word liberal has been hijacked by a select group of people in the media and warped the meaning into something resembling hard to rationalize. Joseph Smith was a progressive in that he challenged the common thinking of the day around religion and the nature of God - even the meaning of life. Many great theological minds throughout history have been devoutly conservative, and yet were progressive or even liberal when it came to looking for greater meaning than the common thought of the day allowed.

But to some, all things are political, and can't see beyond the media frenzied rhetoric.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Seldom Seen Smith
Orcutt, CA
I'm far from a BYU apologist, the reality is, the stifling hypersensitive political correctness run amok is so pervasive that BYU is now a place that promotes more diversity of discussion than the overwhelming majority of American colleges, i.e., allows more tolerance than the self proclaimed pop culture "people of tolerance". Yes there are specific topics that can be identified that are off limits at BYU, but overall, it promotes more freedom of speech and ideas. What a sad state of affairs.

1:02 p.m. May 21, 2014

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Really?

Like - Legalized medical marijuana?
SSM?
Immigration reform?
Wars in the Middle East?
Utah's horrible air pollution?
Recycling?
Universal Healthcare?
The Occupy WallStreet movement?

I'd bet my last dollar you mention ONE of those topics,
and Campus Security would walk you out, and call your Bishop.

Face it,
NuSkin products and other NetWork marketing "get rich quick" schemes are about the most controversial topics of conversation you'll ever hear at BYU.

BTW -- Do they still have an active "spy-ring" ratting out "Liberal" professors down there at the "Y" like they did back in my day?

If they do - it's a "secret"...

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