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Published: Friday, May 16 2014 10:57 p.m. MDT

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Meckofahess
Salt Lake City, UT

Bravo to Mr. Giovanni for standing up to this misguided and bigoted teacher. There should be no place in America for teachers who discriminate against students who want to exercise their freedom of religion!

DonO
Draper, UT

I agree that there seems to be more to this story than what we read here. Attacks on religious liberty are abhorrent, but so is it abhorrent when people and groups like the Liberty Institute manufacture supposed attacks.

Laura Bilington
Maple Valley, WA

“This is the most shocking piece of evidence I’ve seen in the 12 years of religious liberty work that I’ve been doing", says Hiram Sasser.

The teacher told the kid he couldn't read the book. She didn't beat him, publicly humiliate him, mock him in front of other kids, whatever. And this is the "most shocking" thing that Sasser has seen in 12 years? Is he serious?

You might compare this "treatment" by the teacher to the treatment frequently given to gay teenagers, by faculty and students. Religiously believing faculty and students. Then decide which is more shocking.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@Red
"Also, Can the teachers union self regulate? I'm calling all the teachers in America out.

Clean up your own problems. Kick these guys out of your ranks!"

Pretty sure you all would be throwing a fit if a teacher made anti-same-sex marriage remarks and got fired...

Frozen Fractals
Salt Lake City, UT

@Reasonable Man
" although many in the scientific community argue that evolution is science, it is not. It is a theory into which all findings "

'The formal scientific definition of "theory" is quite different from the everyday meaning of the word. It refers to a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence.' - US National Academy of Sciences

The Wraith
Kaysville, UT

I would describe myself as a liberal, very liberal even. I'm also an atheist and a teacher. But I simply cannot imagine telling a student not to read their holy book in the situation this student was in. I don't know what this teacher was thinking but what she did was clearly wrong. I've been through a few training sessions focused on religion and her actions - if they are as reported - went against everything I've been taught about these situations. This should be one of those situations where the school, teacher, and district just say well we messed up and we are very sorry and then move on. Sadly that rarely happens when mistakes are made, it's just human nature to try cover things up or deny wrong doing.

Now if the story isn't accurate then obviously that will change things but this seems to have some solid evidence behind it.

The Wraith
Kaysville, UT

To address a different point now:
@Reasonable Man

Adding to Frozen Fractals post about scientific theories you should know that the idea that germs, bacteria, and viruses cause illness is, like evolution, only a theory. The Germ Theory of disease to be exact. There is a law of gravity which describes the attraction between two objects. However, why objects are attracted to each other is known as the Theory of Gravity. Part of the Theory of Relativity is mass-energy equivalency and there is some excellent proof that this theory is accurate. When science talks about the Theory of Evolution it is in this same context. There are mountains of evidence for evolution both macro and micro. Scientific theories are also expected to make predictions and evolution passes this test as well. Evolution has been seen in the lab.

I'm not the first to say this but I invite all people who doubt evolution to take drink a glass of Ebola, or walk off a 40 story building.

A Guy With A Brain
Enid, OK

@ lonepeakstudent - Alpine, UT - "An isolated case does not religious persecution make."

You think this is an "isolated" incident? Really?

All you have to do is look around....

K
Mchenry, IL

Did the child already do the book for AR credit? The bible is a book that is read and reread. Reading time is spent on new books reports can later be written on or tests can later be taken from. Was the child reading the book aloud?

I would probably be mad as a parent. But this is not religious persecution. Religious persecution is being executed because your father was Muslim and you were raised Christian. Religious persecution is being lashed for marrying a Christian. Religious persecution is being kidnapped and forced to convert to another faith. Which conversion should not hold water with the leadership of that faith. We squabble. Then we resolve. I say to the family turn the other cheek. Why are demanding any action and simply forgive. Have the parents read the bible? I would say if any other scripture were read more parents in the class would demand to know why it's allowed? Something to think about. Although it's probably the lawyers keeping this in the limelight after the correction. Perhaps the boy should lend his copy of the bible to the lawyers?

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