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Published: Saturday, May 17 2014 7:24 p.m. MDT

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ordinaryfolks
seattle, WA

How odd that you advocate for religious freedom in Africa, but won't do the same in the US. Many churches have no problem with same sex marriages and abortion. Yet the conservative religionists in this country are bound and determined to prohibit both.

If it is wrong to impose religiously based concepts on the unwilling in Africa, why is it wrong here. And please no references to the old, sad argument that same sex marriage legality violates your religion. NOBODY makes anyone get same sex married or to have an abortion. It is about your individual conscience, your vision of a deity, and your ability to be true to your own principles.

If Africa allowed this live/let live principle, perhaps they would not have wars. If America were consistent in its live/let life philosophies, the whole debate would just go away. However, conservative religionists in the US will not be content to do so. How sad.

JLindow
St George, UT

Education for women and access to birth control is what's needed to make these places better, not religion.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Religion is the root cause of the problem in Nigeria, among other places. It's not going to give up power easily.
What they really need is empowerment of women.

10CC
Bountiful, UT

In some parts of the world the concept of changing one's religion is highly, highly frowned upon, which may be part of the problem with the young Christian woman who is being threatened with execution.

I work with people from India, some whom are Christian and belong to a church founded by the Apostle Thomas - which is pretty amazing, a lost branch of Christianity that goes back to the beginning - but the understanding in India is you don't attempt to talk other people out of the religion of their upbringing. It is viewed as an insult to the family, their ancestors, etc.

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

If the religious freedom folks have the ability to control the oppression of women why is it that we still have sex slavery and women fighting for equality in America after 2 and 1/2 centuries? America is supposed to be the champion of religious freedom.

Education? Maybe. The problem with education is that it creates more competition for success and makes it harder for the rich and powerful to stay rich and powerful.

1aggie
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

It seems to me like the main focus of most religion is to hold down women and keep them as second-class citizens. Why should we support "religious freedom" to continue this hateful discrimination?

Stormwalker
Cleveland , OH

@1aggie

Religion thrives best when it fosters and "us-against-them" mentality. Part of that includes targeting and brutalizing less powerful groups, with the inherent threat that questioning the status-quo will mean you are targeted, too.

Yes, women are often targeted and controlled. But other target groups include race and ethnic minorities, sexual and gender minorities, immigrants, "hippies" and "protesters" - look at the scorn heaped on the occupy movement and the police brutality used against them - as well as unpopular political opinions.

When I hear that a group will "lead to the destruction of Godly American society" I know that religious fears are being poked to raise money and power by targeting a minority.

Uganda, like the rest of the world, does not need religious freedom, it needs freedom from religion.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Let's not forget that religious freedom among the Moslems in Nigeria has them circumcise their girls so they won't enjoy sex. And religious freedom among the Jews here in America has them circumcise their baby boys.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Without Religious freedom, America would be in the same position as most South American countries! If anything, if America weren't America, SSM might only be a distant voice in some prison cel, rather than being lauded as the pinnacle of human aspirations as the media would like every one to see! Judging from the opinions expressed here, I can only say with profound puzzlement that whatever Christian religion they are referring to, it is one I am not familiar. I've studied and lived among many different religious sects of Christianity and this is nothing of what I have experienced or seen. I will say without any doubt, however, that without Christ, the dark ages would not be a distant memory! Those who denigrate religion will one day find out how wrong they were, even if they spend their lives living off the light and knowledge it's influence has brought to the world.

John Jackson
Sandy, UT

Freedom of religion does have much to do with what is going on in Nigeria. That the girls were forced to renounce Christianity and pray to Allah shows as much. The issues of religious freedom might vary from what they are in the U.S., and some see this editorial as reason to debate things going on in America. Be that as it may, it is good of the Deseret News to call for religious freedom in Nigeria.
I also think of the criticism that this attention is a little late, for people have been being persecuted for Christianity for quite some time, with nary a finger being lifted until the 276 (or however many) girls were abducted. It would be good if we, the public, were outraged at it all, not just this incident. But, we only have so much time for so much news. I think of the story of the person walking along the beech, saving starfish, only to be told it doesn't matter since they all can't be saved. "It mattered to this one," he said.

John Jackson
Sandy, UT

It would be good to address the underlying need, which indeed is for religious freedom. That will not be easy, though, as the lack of religious freedom, in this case, springs out of hatred for Christians, a hatred that has been building up for decades, maybe centurys. As with many of the world's problems, the answer is love, but love is not an easy answer.

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

You can do all the education you wish, but it may not solve your problems. Our education system seems not particularly great yet we do much better than many countries even with the restraint Obama puts on industry. Property rights would do a great deal of good in Nigeria. Arming some of those Christians might also make Boko think twice.

TruthWins
Austin, TX

Guns are always the answer aren't they Chauncey? It doesn't matter than the bad guys are the only ones who know when they will attack and who. 2,000 armed men were on LAX property yet they could not prevent the murder of a security guard could they? Christ said turn your weapons into Plowshares, Utah and conservative followers of Christ say "Buy more guns".

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