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Published: Friday, May 16 2014 4:18 p.m. MDT

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FanOfTheSith
Vernal, UT

Thanks for this article. One of those things that people don't pay attention to and yet know of it's existence. Human smuggling and trafficking is a big problem, in all 50 States. Thanks for the reminder in making sure that we do pay attention to what is going around us and not remain in our bubble world of "unawareness."

Esquire
Springville, UT

Here is a good reason to address immigration reform.

Here's a thought. Liberalize immigration, move to more open borders with registration of immigrants, and let the free market dictate the movement of labor. Actually, that's what's happening now, but we pretend it isn't. Bigger walls, tougher borders, etc. will never, ever solve the issue. It never has in human history. The tragedies that we have seen like this one, or people dying in the desert, and other suffering, should compel us to change what we are doing.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

@Esquire

What you're proposing is exactly what France did and it has absolutely destroyed their economy and way of life. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

JanWindsong
Placerville, CA

Trafficking will never stop as long as the conditions of their own country are so absymmal, they'll do anything to get away. Who knows what these people were traveling for? Maybe to work as maids in fancy estate homes? Maybe nannies? Maybe sex slaves? Maybe field workers? Stop supposing the problem originates from us - it DOES not except as how we feed the culture by allowing hiring of illegals.

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ Brave Sir Robin, I'm very familiar with the situation in Europe, and I'm calling you out on your assertion. Dead wrong.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

If we want to limit the flow of illegal aliens we must push back. Gallup did a global poll in 2009 and determined that there are 165 MILLION people from the third world who would rather live in the USA. They aren't all coming across the southern border.
Our lack of enforcement is a problem. The encouragement to break the law, coming from police chiefs, preachers and politicians is a crying shame. The pandering is NOT a deterrent.

Third try screen name
Mapleton, UT

Maybe the illegal alien problem is kind of like a speeding ticket; at least in some cases.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

I often wonder: do the people who employ all these illegal alien trespassers feel ANY sort of guilt, shame, ambivalence......or - are just concerned that they get all the cheap labor they want?

This wouldn't have happened if employers refused to hire them!

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Esquire,
You reject the claim that France has had problems from their open border policy? So the areas of Paris with heavy mid-east influence where sharia law has been established and the French authorities dare not go – that is not a problem? Maybe you are not as familiar with the situation in Europe as you claim.

Your denial of Brave Sir Robin’s assertion – dead wrong.

Curmudgeon
Salt Lake City, UT

Good grief, everyone. Can't you just put aside your anti-illegal-immigration rants for a moment and focus on the fact that human lives were tragically lost here? Or the fact that they probably had families who depended on them? Are you happy now that they won't be taking jobs in the U.S.? Where is your humanity? Oh, I forgot. Illegal immigrants are not human beings.

RichardB
Murray, UT

In order to work here a person has to steal someone's ID and commit perjury on I-9 forms, both felonies. It's never like speeding.

Allowing 165 million people would destroy this country.

Not enforcing immigration laws makes human trafficking so easy, I'm surprised we don't see more of it. It's one of the drug cartels main sources of income. When will business realize the damage they are doing to this country by using illegal labor?

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

We do enforce immigration laws. Obama is being criticized by own party for deporting so many illegals. You can't secure a border that stretches from CA to Texas. How many ICE agents would we need? Maybe an entire army division on the border. Illegal immigration is more of an economic problem than a criminal problem. The solution to the problem lies south of the border with Mexico. Fix Mexico's economy, restore the rule of law, end government corruption problem solved.

RichardB
Murray, UT

@NeilT
Even the LA Times now admits that Obama's deportation numbers are fixed. He is counting people turned away at the border as deportations, unlike the Presidents that went before him. His party and LaRaza complaining is a ruse. Read the ICE unions website, you'll find out that Obama has told agents not to stop anyone who is eligible for waivers.

Mexico has built a wall on it's south border, and formed it's own border patrol. They think it's possible. Without interior enforcement, we are wasting time at the border, and Obama has the worst interior enforcement of any President. anyone who has had their id stolen knows how big of a criminal problem it is. Crossing the border, or overstaying a visa is just the tip of the iceberg.

I feel sorry for the families of the people who have died in accidents in Utah from human trafficking. The best way to stop others from dying is to enforce the laws, like the previous posts have said.

Brer Rabbit
Spanish Fork, UT

Corruption in D.C. and corrupt employers that knowingly hire cheap illegal labor out of greed are the cause of this sort of thing. Some say open the border and allow all immigrants that want to come to the United States to do so. That would probably be in the range of 3-5 billion that would like to have a better life. This would put more pressure on the environment and reduce the United States to the level of the third world counties, greatly increasing income inequality.

There is a labor surplus in the United States causing unemployment and depressed wages especially for minorities and unskilled working poor. If the labor laws were enforced the labor surplus would be reduced, unemployment would decline and wages would increase.

Immigration laws have been created to protect American workers from cheap foreign labor. The Obama Administration along with practically all democrats and many republicans, believe that the immigration laws should be changed to import more of the world poor for political purpose, or to continue to flood the labor markets with cheap labor for the benefit of the wealthy employers in order to increase profits.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Avoidable loss of human life is always a sad event.

In this case, simply enforcing our immigration laws would have saved at least four lives.

The humane course would be stopping illegal immigrants at the border, apprehending them moving around the interior, and preventing them from getting jobs (the economic incentive that lures many here) or prosecuting those engaged in human trafficking.

Instead, we ignore employers who illegally hire "undocumented workers"; have sanctuary cities where politicians or cops simply refuse to enforce any immigration laws; a porous border; and naively spend money rewarding bad behavior with beacons and water along smuggler routes, and refusing to apprehend, prosecute or deport even violent criminals. Then we wring our hands when illegal immigrants are hurt, or preyed upon by other illegal immigrants.

Four people died because we have surrendered the rule of law to the anarchy of rewarding lawbreakers for political gain, or fear of being labeled a racist.

Avoidable deaths, for sure.

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