Sounds like he is on a tour of Utah Universities. SUU as a freshman, USU as a
sophomore, BYU as a junior and finally U of U as a senior.
I was another Cougar fan who at the same time was happy to see Carlino go AND
wished him well. At the end of the year, would you have traded
Carlino for Davis?Let's compare the two:We all know
the obvious numbers (Carlino 13.7-3.4-4.6 vs Davis 9.1-7.6-0.4)
--ppg/reb/assistsBut Carlino shot 38.5% from the field, Davis 50.3%.
Both shot 68% from the free throw line. Carlino gave up 2.0 turnovers a game,
Davis 1.6. Davis' game is tighter and truer. He doesn't do
as much as Carlino but what he does he does better. And here are
Davis' numbers against Mika, Austin & Collinsworth based on playing a
full 40 minutes per game:Davis: 14.5--12.2--2.1 (ppg--reb--blks)Mika: 18.5--10.0--1.1Austin: 5.7--11.9--1.3Kyle
C.16.7--9.7--0.5He's going to provide the Cougars good defense,
offense when they need it and he's not going to throw a lot of passes into
Oddman, I'm one Y fan who is not "sorry to see (Carlino) go." That
doesn't mean I'm rooting against him, but BYU was not going anywhere
with him running the point. I value consistency and good decision-making (in
both passing and shot selection) in a PG, and those are not things Carlino
brought to the table. He proved long ago that you can never have any idea what
he's going to give you on a given day. He also proved he's basically a
40% shooter, 30%-ish from 3. No thanks. Give someone else the minutes for
experience's sake and hope it pays off in 2-3 years.I hope this
Davis kid can give us something and that the Haws 2/Dastrup/Emery years are all
they're cracked up to be. I am suppressing my enthusiasm, though, having
lived through the supposed glory years of Bradley, the Reids, and Roberts. Like
so many other BYU teams, they were pretty good but that's it. "Pretty
good" is getting old.
When it comes to recruiting... through any objective eye... BYU has been the
class of the state and among the best in the west... Will this turn out to be a
Final Four team in 16'-17' or 17'-18'??? Who knows, but the
team will be loaded with the players and the coaches that can make that
happen...Haws and Emery in the back court... Aytes, Dastrup, Mika
and now Davis in the paint... with studs such as Chapman, Hartsock, Andrus,
Jackson, Toolson, Nixon in the mix... BYU will be a very tough team....It's safe to say that for this 5 or 6 year period, BYU will be the class
of the state (still)... Meanwhile, the utes will run their record against the
Cougs from their current 2-11 mark to 2-17 over 13 years... And their winless
record at the MC in Provo will go from 9 years and running to 15 year and
running.A real disappointment, not only for the big bad pac12, but
more so for the 6 NCAA Division I teams in the Beehive state who have
traditionally enjoyed a strong image in the world of College Basketball.
Coach Stew has run-off five or six players in the past 12 plus months with
"no" explanation by the individual players, Coach Stew or the University
Athletic Department. Being an Aggie alum with a lot of very fond memories of the
La Dell Andersen's years, I wonder just what's going on with the
program and how Coach Stew keeps his job. This Davis kid wasn't a
stud-impact player but he got the job done and had more than decent numbers. He
would have been a great role model for new recruits to the program. There's
no reason for him to have made the decision to leave USU other than there were
big-time issues with Coach Stew............and this is one Aggie fan who'd
love to find out what's the deal with Coach Stew in the past few years and
why players are leaving the program in droves and why Coach Stew has no players
to fill in the holes?????????????????????????
Down under--"Smart kid. He didn't want to be a ute. He
probably will ride the bench or get cut due tot the powerhouse lineup BYU has
coming in."What byu fan fails to realize is byu only getting
more of the same w/most recent recruits in skilled O players who've never
heard of D and, as a result, continues getting identical results via early exits
from Tourney....'Til dr preaches D/brings somebody in to teach it,
they'll reap identical result....Forget about Mythical "NC", where
FL team they lost to was equally named "NC"....Zero Mythical about
Dancing, as UO brutally indicated....Beware stating S.L.C. demolition
"flukish"....Coach K schooled dr, big-time, equal to provo previous
year, but then w/a significantly less capable/more inexperienced
team....He'll duplicate it this next year, save provo D miracle.We had precisely one year w/soft OOC schedule, for obvious reasons when
assembled, and already have two likely Top-10 teams scheduled for
'14-'15, among others. UT/ST in WK 1 before they were good, Ls to
every other school....Weak conference schedule....We're back! Beware!
Tom in CATop two or three, take your pick.
Looking at the pipeline of talent coming to the Cougs the next few years, the
four position looks like the only spot where we could use some depth. With that
said, Kyle will have an opportunity to make an impact. My guess is he will
back-up Aytes during his two years in Provo.
Smart move to get out of USU. Wish you would've stayed down south but what
can you do? Good choice leaving USU Davis.
I'm looking forward to Davis's return to Logan in 2015 ?,, I'm
sure Aggie Nation will have a warm reception awaiting him,,,, GO AGGIES !
"National media has Utah projected among the top several teams of the PAC 12
for this coming season".Stringer - Does that mean
utah is not amongst the bottom 3 or 4? It is pretty bold to proclaim you're
in the "top several" when the grand total is only 12. lol.
You've gotta love the insecurity of any Utah fan that needs to resort to
something like "He went from the MWC to the HS gyms of the WCC",
especially given that BYU had higher overall attendance than the Utes (by a long
shot) and played more ranked and higher ranked teams. Oh, and they also went
dancing. It's good to be a Cougar!
HA! "cheap administrative trick" ?!?!? That makes me laugh
:-) USU did not have to allow him to transfer ANYWHERE because of NCAA rules.Yep. Not a cheap trick but 'the rules.' Of course you want to
limit him transferring to your opponents. You have spent a great deal of time
and resources on him and do not want him to now use your resources against you,
BUT will allow him to go somewhere else.What is so difficult to
understand about that?btw: What does it say about this guy that this
is his third transfer.
I'm a grad of both USU and BYU. Can someone post what's going on in
Aggieville that 3 players have transferred out recently?
USU's apparent willingness to use whatever cheap administrative trick they
can dig up to restrict and try to punish Kyle for leaving their program likely
speaks directly to the reason he and others are leaving.
A 6'7" kid who plays the 4 is always welcome at BYU and nearly every
team can use depth at that position. I just wish he could play this next
season. Like others, I wonder what going on up at USU. The Aggies have such a
proud Bball tradition and I'd hate to see that change. Welcome aboard,
Kyle. Have a good year in school and we'll see you on the court before you
@stringer bellHow did utah fare in the HS gym last season of st
mary's? This is a good pickup by byu. they will need some depth at the
Why all of the comments about Utah? This Southern Utah University/Utah State
transfer has nothing to do with Utah or big-time basketball. He went from the
MWC to the HS gyms of the WCC. National media has Utah projected among the top
several teams of the PAC 12 for this coming season. Things are looking great on
the hill. Good luck with him.
Smart kid. He didn't want to be a ute. He probably will ride the bench or
get cut due tot the powerhouse lineup BYU has coming in.
He must be a walk-on for the 2014-15 season. One of the blessings of Carlino
transferring was that is brought BYU down to the scholarship limit. I imagine
he was invited to walk-on with the chance a gaining a scholarship.
Sunny, where you been hiding? Carlino was never ridiculed for his play or for
leaving BYU. Granted he had about as many detractors as attractors, however I
believe we are all sorry to see him go. He brought the crowd to its feet on
Great player who will help us go to the NCAAs and beat Kentucky.
I still maintain that if regular scholarship students can transfer to a
different college without any involvement restrictions, then scholarship
athletes should be able to as well. This not releasing someone to an in-state
school stuff is garbage and clearly not done with the student in mind, and the
university experience is for the student. If coaches can leave and coach the
next year somewhere else, athletes should be free to do so as well and at-will
for the start of the next season. It's plenty of time to find replacement
players etc. and would put some checks on the schools to manage the humanity of
their staff toward student athletes.
Welcome Kyle! You will thrive under Coach Rose and his great staff. You had
great training at USU. These decisions are typically personal and trying to pan
one program over another is the occupation of those without anything important
to add to any conversation. Let the monotonous droning of the ill-informed
resonate in their own ears.
Sad to see USU in the state they appear to be with guys leaving.Maybe
it's time for a coaching change after all these years just to shake things
BYU plays more nationally ranked teams than anyone else in the state. They play
in more post-season tournaments than anyone else in the state, plus they are
more accessible on TV than any other college basketball team in the state. So it
would naturally be the first choice of most quality players who can abide by
it's required standards.@ Chris B:When comparing
the 2 programs over the past decade, you've got to still have those funny
glasses on if you honestly believe Utah wouldn't be very happy to have
almost any player good enough for BYU to take. One solitary victory in SLC last
season doesn't suddenly change all of that. @ plyxply:Riley Nelson was a record-setting Parade All-American who could've played
anywhere in the Inter-mountain area and beyond. BYU was fortunate to get
him. He had more guts and determination than most players ever dream of having.
I don't know of any other player who willingly played with broken back
vertebrae and broken ribs. A true competitor and team leader. BYU will be happy
if Davis is able to contribute even half as much as all that.
I don't agree with Sunny. I certainly wish Carlino great success and I
think most people also do. I think Mr. Davis will help BYU. I am sorry if USU
is sad at his departure, but no one should want to keep a player who wants to go
Chris-You assume he wanted to be a Ute? Don't think so.
flatlander,If you read the article you would know what you just said
is not correct. Did you not read the article? He's already had contact
with Dave Rose. Are you suggesting a big rules violation has occurred then?
Max was right - You assume because byU wanted him that Utah wanted
UCSB and Hawaii wanted him along with byu? Good get for byu.
USU would nt release him to an instate school so he can't practice or have
any contact or aid from coaches for a year.
Huge USU fan. You never want a player that doesn't want to be there so
good luck to the kid.What's up? Any insights? We've had a
good run there for some time, but the wheels appear to be having some serious
issues.Welcome any comments.
Players are ridiculed when they transfer from BYU (Carlino).Players are
applauded when they transfer to BYU (Davis).
Wait doesn't he know Utah is in the prestigious pac ten?
Maybe the 3rd time is the charm for Kyle?
He's listed at 6-foot-7-inch, 225-pounds.
hopefully he'll have the same type of impact that Riley Nelson had
What's going on up at Utah State with the basketball team? There have been
numerous players transferring. It can't just be about playing time because
some of the kids leaving were getting lots of playing time.
Going from a starting position at Utah State to sitting out for a year at BYU
with no idea if he will start for the Cougars. I get it. BYU is a better
school. However, something is sketchy at Utah State lately.
This is a good pickup for BYU. Kyle Davis was a pretty good player for the
Aggies last year and was an absolute work horse. My only concern is injuries
that he incurred last season but with a full year recuperating for the following
season, he should be good to go. In addition, the 4 position has been the
weakest position for BYU to fill lately ever since Hartsock left. Averaging 9.1
points and 7.6 rebounds in 25 minutes of play is a pretty good average. I hope
he likes up-tempo because it's the complete opposite philosophy from Coach
Morrill's slow pace half-court set.
What is his size? What is the reaction of Coach Rose? Obviously he is welcomed
but I'm curious how he will enhance the star studded group that will be
collected for 2015-1016. What is his reason for transferring?whqt