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Published: Thursday, May 15 2014 5:20 p.m. MDT

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Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Cosmo's Cousin,

The BYU administration will have to compromise on broadcast rights to make that happen.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Flashback,

Uh, if BYU kicks the snot out of Virginia, fewer ACC teams will want to schedule BYU.

Also, yes we have played Pitt and beaten them at least twice. The first time was in the Fiesta Bowl.

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Flashback,

The Utes have had national prominence since we busted the BCS twice. Something BYU has never done and the Utes were the first team to do it.

Rob of NV
Las Vegas, NV

Utes11

Hardly unbiased opinion since you are a Ute fan. BYU is the only university that brings something to the table if the Big 12 were to expand. BYU is the only university that brings additional revenue with it, so that any economic affect of splitting up the "pie" between more conference members is minimalized. BYU has a national fan base, and travels well by filling up opponent's stadiums. Also, as has been stated earlier, BYU would in many instances not compete for the same recruits of current conference members. The more objective few of frankthetank.me has BYU and Cincinnati as the top two prospects for additional Big 12 members, and his reasoning is sound and objective. While I like independence and playing the variety of teams, I think the writing is on the wall that conference membership in the Big 12, most likely, is important to the future of BYU football. Besides, if BYU football did go away, what would all the UT trolls do with their extra time. The reason for their existence would cease, unless they found trolling the CO articles satisfying!

Veritas Aequitas
Fruit Heights, UT

Mormon Ute
Kaysville, UT

Flashback,

The Utes have had national prominence since we busted the BCS twice. Something BYU has never done and the Utes were the first team to do it.
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Beats all the Heisman, NC, Outlands, Davey O'Brien awards and other trinkets. Give me banners and stickers anyday.

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To the rest, the sky is falling, run for cover.

Parkite1
Park City, UT

It is time for both Holmoe and Mendenhall to go, there needs to be new blood and new ways of thinking and coaching. Anyone else think that it should have been the Cougars instead of Notre Dame playing for the National Championship and Hill instead of Nelson Qb'ing that entire season? Anyone else think that had Bronco been engaged in the game he would have run out onto the field and called a time out avoided the horrific injury to to Hill not getting in the Victory Stance? In the end Bronco fired his coaching staff, when Holmoe should have fired Bronco. Well now it is time for both to go and inject new blood into the program. Someone who will stand up to Church Leadership and say it is critical for BYU to get into the Big 12 now Sunday play cannot be negotiated but everything else including TV broadcast rights can!

Max
Upstate, NY

This really makes me mad. Yes, I am a BYU alumnus. No, I am not a big fan of the football team since Bronco took over. AND I am an ACC fan (having attended grad school and lived in ACC territory up and down the east coast for many years) THE FACT IS THAT THERE IS NO WAY THAT BYU shouldn't be considered as a high quality opponent. This is pure nonsense on the part of the ACC.

mcdugall
Murray, UT

BYU will be fine. The reality is BYU does not bring the big money potential to the table like the power conferences do. The SEC and ACC decisions are purely based on financial considerations.

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

Rob of NV "BYU is the only university that brings additional revenue with it, so that any economic affect of splitting up the "pie" between more conference members is minimalized."

The Big12 deal could reach $30 million per school soon as the money from the conference's media rights deals escalates later in the contract. What does BYU make from ESPN. $10M? $15M?

Are you saying BYU could bring $30 million to the Big 12 (two or three times what ESPN pays BYU today) plus a few extra million to sweeten the deal for the existing members?

That is a lot of money for BYU to shell out, just to finish behind TCU in a different conference.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

The Y can control its own destiny by winning against the BIG 10 and other major conferences. Last year the Y had the chance to beat both Notre Dame and Wisconsin but lost to both by around 13 points. This doesn't impress anyone. Had the Y won both games then people suddenly start to take notice. Winning works wonders as the U found out a few years ago by winning two BSC bowl games and then found themselves in the Pac12.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@ Flashback

"Utah has never beat Miami, Texas, Oklahoma, Pitt, etc."

Utah won a BCS bowl game against Pitt.

Elmer Fudd
Sandy, Utah

@ Flashback

"Let's see what happens when BYU kicks the snot out of Virginia. What will the ACC say then?"

The ACC would say "Congratulations on beating the worst team in our conference and avenging your heartbreaking loss to them last year. Even though you beat the worst team in our conference pretty soundly. Doesn't change the way college football sees your football program (mid-majors). BYU will still not count as a power 5 opponent going forward for the foreseeable future".

The Deuce
Livermore, CA

The writing is on the wall for a once great football program that has been allowed to slowly die on the vine. Unfortunatley, this will not be the last rejection. There is a reason that BYU is not considered a "power" team. The AD and school had a chance to make changes earlier and have failed to do it.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Why did the ACC make this decision?

Easy, is byu a mid-major or are they a power conference team. The rule is quite simple: All ACC teams must play one game against a power conference team.

The whole POINT of the rule is to play more power conference teams.

Not Wyoming
not new mexico state
not san jose state
not UNLV
Not byu

Those are all mid-major teams.

The whole point of the rule is to NOT play them

And in typical "we think we're better than we really are" fashion they come and want the ACC to give them something the rule was put in place to prevent?

LOL! Get over yourselves byu, you are a mid major like Wyoming!

Challenge to the Foe
Fargo, ND

Chris B-

The next time Wyoming wins a NC and has a Heisman winner, you can compare them to BYU. Until then, that's just a false statement.

I like being able to watch BYU play teams from all over the country. With this new development though, I know for a fact independence is not a good thing for BYU anymore. To parody the great Ronald Reagan when he told Gorbachev to 'tear down this wall,' I say Mr. Holmoe, get us in a conference!

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Not in panic mode?

LOL!

Do you byu fans believe that? I hope you don't. If he's not panicking, when would be time to panic?

When they bulldoze Lavell Stadium or possibly when the officially announce a membership in the Sun Belt conference?

LOL!

College football is moving on, without byu!

1978
Salt Lake City, UT

Heisman Trophy + National Championship >>>> Pac-12 (Lower Tier i.e. Washington State, Colorado etc.) Membership

That must be why the vast majority of comments on a BYU article are from... well you know

Rob of NV
Las Vegas, NV

SoonerUte

Amazing to have all these Big 12 alums that are U fans. I thought UT was supposed to be leading graduate educational institution. Why did so many end up at Big 12 schools?

Thank you for proving my point. You cannot name one other university that can bring $10 to $15 million annually to the table. I never said BYU could bring $30 million to the table. Obviously, $10 to $15 million would minimize the cost to other Big 12 members, More so than any other university could. Also, there would not be any potential conference buyout cost to the Big 12 for adding BYU, as might be the case by adding a university with a conference affiliation.

And for other UT trolls, let's not forget who the original BCS buster was, which was BYU when they won the 1984 national championship. This fact was one of the main reasons for the so-called larger conferences creating the BCS. You accuse BYU of arrogance. The BCS was the epitomy of arrogance, with the thinking that no school other than those in the "club" should be the national champion. Why shouldn't any school in the NCAA have the opportunity to be a national champion, much like basketball?

Stringer Bell
Henderson, NV

Rob of NV

BYU is the original BCS buster?? They are the original BCS creator. The BCS was created so that 1984 atrocity could never be repeated again. Beating an average at best Michigan team is not "busting" anything.

1978
Salt Lake City, UT

"Beating an average at best Michigan team is not "busting" anything."

True. But having a 22 game winning streak for two years that included road/nuetral victories over 4 ranked teams including UCLA in the year that they won both the PAC10 and the Rose Bowl is busting something.

That is an inconvient truth that many Utah fans love to overlook.

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