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Published: Thursday, May 15 2014 5:20 p.m. MDT

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54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

So you're telling us that future schedules could be worse than this year's? Is that even possible?

Tuffy Parker
Salem, UT

Good article. Holmoe will work it out. Also, wanted to get here before Chris B. or one of his other dozen monikers.

El Chango Supremo
Rexburg, ID

While BYU is no Alabama or Michigan, They are certainly a bigger program than quite a few "power 5" schools... ESPN & Bleacher Report both ranked BYU as the all time #25 most prestigious program. (ahead of Utah, which was ranked #43 & #45 respectively)

This decision by the ACC & SEC makes no sense at all!

Dnquixote
Las Vegas, NV

Exactly what would it take for Holmoe to start panicking? How about only having 11 games against P5 schools scheduled over the next ELEVEN seasons? When you have to go all the way to 2025 to make your list of opponents sound relevant, it is time to panic.

Hailstorm is a coming
Riverdale, UT

El Chango Supremo
That was then, this is now.
I still think going Indy was a bad maneuver.

truthsandwich
RANDOLPH, UT

@El Chango

"ESPN & Bleacher Report both ranked BYU as the all time #25 most prestigious program. (ahead of Utah, which was ranked #43 & #45 respectively)"

Man, it's almost as if the ACC and SEC don't care about BYU's ancient football history as much as BYU fans do.

32843
PROVO, UT

I think BYU, and Cougar fans, are going to have to come to grips with the fact that they are not perceived as anything more than a second tier team. And if they hope to get into a "power" conference they are going to have to sacrifice the "exposure" BYUTV and ESPN gives them and settle for being just a small part of a whole. The only other alternatives is to rejoin the MWC, along with the rest of the irrelevant teams, or give up football altogether. At the rate of demand of those who wish to attend BYU, they could tear down LES to expand their educational facilities.

I wish I were wrong about the future of BYU football. It had a good run. But, I don't think those who run BYU have it within them to make the needed sacrifices (and I'm not talking about Sunday play) to make BYU football viable in the future. It's sad, but beginning to more apparent as time goes on, that UoU football will be the only game in town on the national stage. Oh well.

mercyfulf8
gilbert, AZ

Based on the ACC and SEC snubbing BYU there is no reason to think the PAC12, BIG10, and BIG12 will feel any different towards BYU. If I was a BYU fine I wouldn't be feeling too optimistic right now. Clearly the ESPN exposure and all time #25 prestigious program didn't mean much to the SEC and ACC.

DEW Cougars
Sandy, UT

I know we are suppose to schedule ND soon but they are part of ACC. Will ACC going to tell ND not to play BYU, hmmm, I wondered. Two more at home and two more on road with ND.

Sure we got espn but who wants to play on Wed, Thur or Friday night (late time)?

Don't worry, I am not panicking

Uncle Rico
Provo, UT

BYU lost to the worst power conference team last year (1-10 Virginia).
Virginia's only win vs an FBS school was against BYU.

BlueHusky
Mission Viejo, CA

We're not in a Big 5 Conference. Oh well. BYU has NEVER been in a big 5 conference and they've prospered. WSU, ASU, UofA, OSU, Cal, Colorado and Utah have not prospered. Occasionally they have a good year, but BYU has beaten all of them at one time or another.

All we have to do is win. We'll be ranked. We may get snubbed, but oh well. BYU will have plenty of chances of beating big 5 teams. They'll play them in bowls.

Just win baby. BYU will be no worse off than they ever were.

Nothing succeeds like success. After all, BSU, Utah, Hawaii all got into BCS bowls by beating weak schedules. Now we have a playoff. Will the Big 5 really control that? People will want a bigger playoff. 8 teams? BYU could make that list.

Riley Mendenhall
Provo, UT

Independence is not an option anymore.

Yes, Notre Dame is Independent, but not really. Notre Dame has an agreement to play 5 ACC teams per year, ACC bowls have the option to take Notre Dame or ACC team. Basically Notre Dame is an unofficial member of the ACC. Plus Notre Dame has the annual games with Stanford, USC, etc.

BYU's independence is more on par with New Mexico State or Idaho. Just fill an open spot when a team can't find anyone else. No bowl tie-ins.

Just because BYU is independent, why should their games count and not say Boise State. Anyone can go independent, other 2014 Independents include: Idaho, New Mexico State, Old Dominnion and Army.
Are they claiming to be better than Boise State? No.

truth in all its forms
henderson, NV

I am so grateful that Utah doesn't have to worry about this problem. They made the right choice by joining the prestigious Pac 12. I hope BYU can find a school from a smaller conferences to schedule. If they do that they might just go undefeated and be able to make it to a bowl game.

still_thinking
Draper, UT

@DEW Cougars
Notre Dame is not part of the ACC for Football so they can continue to schedule whoever they want.

More broadly I think those that criticize going independent need to realize that if we were still part of the MWC the ACC and SEC decisions would apply. Being independent is not what prevents us from playing the ACC and SEC. As for joining a Power 5 Conference I think we all need to remember a couple of things: 1) BYU is a church owned school and their first priority is not, was not, and will not ever be sporting dominance (I can already hear Chris B replying mission accomplished), and 2) No information has ever been made available to indicate we turned down an invitation.

Given the mission of BYU and the circumstances that exist, I think BYU has done a great job. If the only thing you care about is a National Championship then go root for Alabama (because Utah isn't getting one).

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

El Chango:

"ESPN & Bleacher Report both ranked BYU as the all time #25 most prestigious program."

You misread that article. That wasn't about the top programs of "all time". It only ranked the programs thru 1998 -- or "pre-BCS era". There's been some movement since then, but the cougars didn't fare so well.

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

DEW Cougars "Will ACC going to tell ND not to play BYU, hmmm, I wondered."
You misunderstood the announcement. The ACC is not banning teams from playing BYU. The ACC can play BYU and it counts as playing a mid-major opponent. Nothing really changed today.

Jefe-Ute
SLC, UT

@still_thinking.

It may not have been a power 5, but it was from a BCS conference at the time! They turned down an offer from the former Big East. Just look it up.

BYU couldn't stand to share the wealth. They only want it for themselves.

runnerguy50
Virginia Beach, Va

While listening to the Tim Brando show this morning on Sirus radio the commentator said BYU has got to find a conference and look for the Cougars to find one soon. It is not good news when the ACC and SEC say no thanks. Run to the Big 12 while you can...if you can.

Atrix
Vancouver, WA

I'm one BYU fan that will not worry. BYU will continue with success every year and reach bowl games. We'll play enough "big name" teams to stay in the national spotlight and keep the revenue flowing in.

I'd take this life over what the Utes program has. They sweep the doormats of the Pac-10.2 and mooch revenue from the power teams in the conference. They are never on national TV and nobody gives a peep about them except the few fans living in Utah. They serve as a hole filler for the Pac and they have to do whatever big brother says in order to keep the paychecks coming.

Take it for what its worth but I'm a proud BYU fan and always will be. I love the national exposure and the ever changing schedule. I'm proud of our Independence. Could the Utes ever fly has an Independent? Nope - they will always need a bigger brother to hold their hand.

Go Cougars!!!

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@BlueHusky

BYU has prospered against Bo Diddly Techs!

* BYU has a losing record vs P5 teams and that's playing 2-4 P5 teams a year not 8 or 9.

* When Utah and TCU playing 2-4 P5 teams they had the top 2 winning percentage of all mid-majors.

Winning percentage vs PAC-12 since leaving the MWC:

Utah - 34%
BYU - 28%

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