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Published: Tuesday, May 13 2014 6:47 p.m. MDT

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Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

What's wrong with the "old" law - except that it doesn't get enforced?

Folks, what you are witnessing is a complete takeover of politics by the oligarchy of business interests. The smarmy businesses that want cheap labor couldn't care less how many jobs are lost by LEGAL American citizens. All they care about is that they make more money than you!

A "new" immigration law will bring another 30-50 million illegal alien trespassers, especially if nothing is done at the border to stop the flow (which I doubt).

The ONLY thing rational, law-abiding Americans have is their vote. You need to let your Congressperson know that they will NEVER get your vote again if they vote for (any form of) amnesty.

The amnesty that the chamber of commerce wants WILL result in the destruction of the middle class with: suppressed wages, higher unemployment, and ridiculously high social infrastructure costs.

The immigration lobby is hoping they can buy their way to amnesty through "donations" to congresspersons.

PLEASE prove them wrong.

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

This is all well and good, but it appears that many of the Congressional delegations from these states are the very ones holding up the show. Mike Lee is certainly a case in point. When he's not shutting down the government he's stalling on this and many other issues.

azresident
Mesa, AZ

In the late 80's, early 90's, three or four of the teenage boys who lived on my street worked part time construction of some sort. Usually they worked for a family member, friend, or friend of a friend. That is no longer the case. Those jobs go to the laborers hanging out on street corners, picked up by (?)and taken to a job site. While it is illegal to hang out on street corners looking for work, nobody enforces that law. Cheap labor is everywhere. Jobs for teens are not. This is wrong on so many levels.

drivebyposter
Orem, UT

Mike Lee was not standing in solidarity with the first pro-reform group, but was giving an opposite view. There was no proper translation to Lee's statements. Careless journalism.

The answer is so simple but for some reason so hard politically to implement. If you don't want illegal immigration, discourage illegal immigration! This means closing the porous borders as effectively as we can. It also means creating a higher-tech ID system in this country that can't be defeated by paying a few hundred bucks to the counterfeiter around the corner.

At the same time, if you want legal immigration,then encourage it! (I think this is a good thing, though many don't). This means lowering the maze-like bureaucratic and financial barriers to many good, decent folks who would come here and contribute to our nation. Yes, this includes humble, hard-working people who can't afford expensive lawyers in their home countries to do it all for them.

Let's lift our lamp once again beside the golden door, but only to those who come in the front door - one that opens from both sides.

Mr. Bean
Phoenix, AZ

"Fix nation's broken immigration system"

The phrase, simply put, means... give all illegal immigrants amnesty, allow them to invite their families and friends.

We tried that in 1986 and what happened? Illegals poured in by the millions looking for the same benefit. Expect more of the same.

Fitness Freak:
"You need to let your Congressperson know that they will NEVER get your vote again if they vote for (any form of) amnesty."

Too late.

Immigrants (mostly Hispanic) have developed a huge voting block that basically controls our political system. As it stands now, Democrats have the Hispanic vote. If Republicans hope to get the vote, they will need to promise amnesty and eventual citizenship to all illegals and their families.

dave4197
Redding, CA

Mike Lee (a Senator?) is the embodiment of the main impediment to immigration reform. We need comprehensive reform, we don't need little steps. The present policy is wrong, let alone out of date, let alone not workable, let alone immoral by separating families and stepping on the neck of the poor. The fence is a sad example of an unworkable and expensive idea. And it's a sorry emblem of our broken relationship with our friends from across that border. Mexicans are not our enemies.
The leaders of the 6 states are right about telling legislators to step away from politics (Lee didn't get it) and work together (not splinter groups) and (a) recognize the dignity of our friends from across our southern border, (b) recognize our own ability to help - with job opportunities, with education to name 2, and (c) make it possible to immigrate within months instead of decades.
I can always hope. Beinvenidos amigos!

daveterran
Salt Lake City, UT

We need immigration reform, but it won't happen with our current "do nothing" House of Representatives. Finding out who is here illegally and giving those people a path to citizenship is wanted by the majority of Americans and politicians, but the extreme minority in this country is holding this common sense reform hostage.

RichardB
Murray, UT

Time to find my lantern and go looking for an honest man.

Our laws were updated in the reform of 1996 and 2000. The laws of these "reforms" and the 1986 amnesty reform have never been enforced. People received amnesty in 1986 and 2000 (245i rolling amnesties 1994,1997,2000) but the enforcement promised never came.

I'm tired of business and it's supporters circumventing our immigration laws. Amnesty will just bring more people here illegally, more will die in the desert, more families will be separated, and they don't seem to care. It's time business learned to love it's neighbor.

John Randolph
RIDGWAY, CO

Why Are Washington's Illegal Immigration And Immigration Reform Such Confounded Messes?

The primary reason is that Washington does not tell the truth about either.

Washington's concern with its corrupt NAFTA trading partner Mexico outweighs its concerns for illegal immigration from Mexico. 1.25 billion dollars a day in cross border trade, second largest source of oil, and US investments in Mexico (Wal-Mart) trump any of America's complaints or concerns about illegal immigration to the US.

Washigton's corporate cronies profit from the use of undocumented labor.

Washigton's corporate cronies simultaneously profit off undocumented labor and billions of US tax dollars pumped into ineffective crony border and interior enforcement complexes.

Pete1215
Lafayette, IN

"by creating a road to lawful status and citizenship" That means amnesty. The illegals will vote for more government programs if they get lawful voting status. Since we are now spending 17 billion dollars a week more than we have (our Federal defecit), more spending will just sink this Titanic a little quicker.

RRB
SLC, UT

I am so tired of this fight for illegal labor. We all know amnesty will not help to enforce our laws, the enforcement part will be ignored. And more people will come without strict enforcement. It's been a never ending cycle.

Before 1976 we averaged 500,000 people a year coming here legally. Since 1976 we are averaging over 1 million people each year (legally), plus 3.2 million visa workers. With high unemployment those numbers should be criminal. We don't need or want illegal immigration, we already let in more people than the rest of the world combined. We need to stop this madness.

Uncle_Fester
Niskayuna, NY

We don't need some reworking of the old law in order to afford "dignity and respect" to illegal immigrants, what we need is enforcement of existing law and a barrier making it extremely difficult to come here unlawfully. Such comments by politicians are an affront to every immigrant who comes here lawfully. We don't need to respect the dignity of illegals, we need people coming here who respect our laws. I don't see why we would ever want to extend citizenship to people who manifestly don't accept the rule of law.

techpubs
Sioux City, IA

There is currently and has been since 1986 both a path to citizenship and a path to legal residence just for the purpose of working here and returning home. The main problems with this have been:
1. Some employers don't use it because it means that they would have to pay the same wages that they would pay a citizen.
2. Some people in other countries won't use it because there is a limit on how many are allowed in each year.
In 1986 Congress said we need "x" number of foreign workers each year to fill certain jobs. But "2x" to "4x" number of foreign workers want to come each year.

At this time we have not enforced our current laws in so long that we have no data to tell us how many workers we actually need in each industry. So the only real way to fix this is to seal the borders, enforce the existing laws, and create a new database to work from. And that means we have to punish the employers who are cheating the system harshly to make them stop doing so.

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

Yes, fix the broken immigration system:

1. Force Obama to obey the law and stop lying about how well they are doing.
2. Stop using illegal immigrants as ponds in a scheme to stuff the ballot box. (Yes, illegal immigrants are voting here and changing the election results.)
3. Establish a guest worker program where people can come here for limited periods of time (3 to 5 years) work and go home.
4. Allow guest workers to travel home and come back several times a year so they can attend family events (weddings, birthdays, holidays, etc.)
5. Make it impossible for illegal aliens to survive in the US.

A) Offer a huge reward to anyone (including illegal aliens) to turn in employers who employ illegal aliens without making a good faith effort to screen them out. Fine guilty employers massively.

B) Make it illegal to rent housing to illegal aliens. Landlords (or property managers) who don't make a good faith effort to screen them out will be forced to refund 100% of their rent. Every renter eventually moves and they all know who they pay their rent to.

(set illegal aliens, their employers and landlords at each others throats)

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

Shame on you politicians. Why must you pander for Latino votes?
Government does a lousy job telling people NO, especially where race is involved. But that's where the law comes in. Enforce it.
I have never seen the likes of it; politicians, preachers and police chiefs telling us to ignore existing law; apologizing for trespassers.
And make no mistake, this isn't like a speeding ticket. Illegal aliens break the law every day when they show up at work with their fake social security number and their falsified I-9 form. Or the ones who break tax laws by working off the books.
Let's get back to deporting people just because they are here illegally. Let's return to worksite raids. Let's establish partnerships with local police to detect and detain illegal aliens. Let's make it mandatory to use SAVE and E-Verify. Let's streamline the BIA process and deportations.
Most of all, let's stop the politicians from selling our sovereignty for a few votes.

U-tar
Woodland Hills, UT

Build a. Better wall and enforce existing law. Set workable standards for people to come here legally to be part of our great nation, not to tear it apart!

RRB
SLC, UT

Obama gave a waiver to the spouses of visa workers yesterday. It allows them to work also. The 3.2 million visa holders just increased a million or two, and they can be renewed for three years total. (9.6 million plus spouses) These are guest workers here on legal visas.

America's workers are being sold out. If these people did not supply business with cheap labor, the laws would be enforced, America would be back to work (17 million still looking for full time work) and the taxpayer burden would be less. Try 55,000 students at $8,000 per student each year k-12. (440 million just for Utah schools each year)

In the 1986 reform we were promised a border fence (like Mexico's south border) e-verify, interior enforcement and more judges, in the reform of 1996 we were promised a visa entry-exit system. None of it happened, and no enforcement laws under Obama will be enforced. Why pass laws when they won't be enforced?

CylonesRus
sunamn, IN

What is broken is those who are charged with enforcement starting with the presidents going back thirty year forty years, including Reagan.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Okay, if we are going to give amnesty to millions who violate our immigration laws, then we must demand the same for actual U.S. citizens. Start by ordering the IRS to quit enforcing our tax laws and let the less than 50% of the population who pay taxes to just quit paying taxes because "it is inconvenient, and would allow a better life for their families."

The push for amnesty is nothing but a huge step toward destroying the respect for the rule of law, for opportunistic political benefit (on the part of the politicians who support it), and some quick profits by the disgusting business interests who apparently have been using illegal labor for years by disobeying the law.

No amnesty, under whatever name! Ever! We tried it before and it has only made things worse.

Millions of good people come here legally, so we have a system that works. What does not work, is the enforcement of our laws to apprehend, charge and convict criminals who break our laws.

Obama's release of millions of criminal illegals back on the streets is a warning of how lawless we have become.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

Republicans will get around to immigration as well as other back burner issues like the economy, healthcare, etc., as soon as they finish the Benghazi investigation which should be some where around the mid-terms.

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