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Published: Thursday, May 8 2014 12:55 p.m. MDT

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Cinci Man
FT MITCHELL, KY

It is the sad experience of sports fans of teams not in the 5 power conferences that no matter what version is for choosing a national champion, it is always slanted toward those money conferences. The NCAA has always been first and foremost about the money. It's a business. It is driven toward the most profitable programs and policies. I expect the playoff system to do very little toward determining who is the real champion of football. It will always be the 'perceived' champion, as determined by the 5 power conferences. that's life. That's the NCAA. Follow the money.

54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

With BYU's horrendous schedule, winning every game won't matter for entry into the playoff system.

KVN/Hoff want 0-4 against UTAH
Ogden, UT

What I don't get is why doesn't byu just join us in the Pac 12 or join the Big 12?

Then your schedule would be way better, you'd play for better bowls, and you'd have access to the playoffs.

Don't byu fans want those things?

Lifelong Ute
Salt Lake City, UT

These byu fans and coaches talk like they deserve something. You only deserve what you earn. And byu has not earned a place among the power 5. If you had earned it, you'd be in. But you haven't, so you're not. Byu doesn't deserve a pathway to any playoffs if they haven't earned it.

Don't like it? Tough.

redthunder
Ogden, UT

@KVN/Hoff

I'm not sure you understand how it works...

Tajemnica
West Valley, Utah

@KVN/Hoff want 0-4 against UTAH

How much control do you think BYU fans have over these sort of things. I lot of fans 'want' them but they have ZERO control.

@Lifelong Ute

As a USC fan I can say you didn't 'deserve' it either. The main things holding BYU back are not a lack of deserving it nor a lack of invitations, it is the unique aspect of the institution such as the Sunday play option as well as the T.V. rights (since BYU has better production capacity than all of the PAC 10) that the high up theres from BYU and these conferences cannot agree with. utah was invited as leftovers because the PAC 10 and BYU couldn't agree to a deal (same goes for the BIG 12). And Colorado was invited because the PAC 10 didn't want just 11 teams. (the leftovers of the leftovers). I'd much rather have BYU than YOUtah in my conference. BTW good luck on October 25th. You'll need it going in likely at 2-4.

RSLfanalways
Why, AZ

Here is a question.

What is better, being one of the best teams in a lower division, or one of the worst teams in a higher division. Both have pro's and con's. Fans get tired of losing so it may hurt the higher program, or your team is winning in a lower division but can't play better teams in a higher division.

It would be smart to have the two worst teams demoted from the higher conference to the lower and the best two from the lower conference to be promoted. But that can create complications.

Che26
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Wow
It's amazing how 5 years ago Utah fans were just as upset about how unfair college football worked, and now they are coming out of the woodwork talking about how great the system functions. Talk about fair weather fans.
The fact of the matter is that the system stinks. Even if BYU was included I wouldn't be happy with where college football is headed. Lots of great programs that play great football are being left behind and it is just making college football worse.
It is very sad to see so many fans in Utah support a system that has actively been destroying the tenants that make college football great such as rivalry, cheering the underdog and sportsmanship.

CougOrUte..Naah
Nibley, UT

Based on University of Utah's record in the PAC 10+2, I would say that BYU, Utah State, Weber State, and Bingham High have about the same chance as the UofU does to make the National Championship Game. If I were a Ute fan I think I would prove that I should belong to a "Power Conference" before I threw rocks at non-Big 5 teams. The University of Utah is where it is because the PAC 10+2 needed more money, not because they proved they belonged. So prove it, before you talk down to anyone.

Brent T. Aurora CO
Aurora, CO

RSLfanalwaysRSLfanalways you've hit the nail on the head. Football should go to 4 conferences or divisions where annually the teams that finish last are out into a pool of teams that advances 4 qualifying teams into those four conferences. And even better would be tying the fates of basketball, baseball and other sports to the performance of their football team as to the conferences they play in.

Obama10
SYRACUSE, UT

It is funny how Ute fans think they "earned" a spot in the PAC 10+2. As has been noted, it had nothing to do with your performance on the field and everything to do with money and TV sets. Larry Scott was getting ready to negotiate a TV contract and needed the largest number of TV sets possible to maximize revenue. He asked Texas and Oklahoma who both declined. Option #2 was Utah and Colorado. Neither had a "great" history or tradition in football, but since all Larry Scott needed was a TV footprint for negotiations, an offer was extended. Being second choice is better than no choice, so I am glad for the Utes. But please stop acting like it was your "great" tradition, or your little 45,000 seat stadium that got you in the PAC 10+2. It was money and TV sets.

eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

Lots of chest-thumping from Ute fans (all the first commenters). Why do you guys care so much? I thought you had "Moved On" and BYU was "Little Brother".

I'm really happy for you being in a "Power 5" conference. But realistically, your chances of EVER playing for a national title are a zillion to one. About the same as BYU.

Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT

Che26
SALT LAKE CITY, UT
Wow
It's amazing how 5 years ago Utah fans were just as upset about how unfair college football worked, and now they are coming out of the woodwork talking about how great the system functions. Talk about fair weather fans.

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How is that fair weather? It's not.

Elitist, yes. Fair weather, no.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

Playoffs?! How BYU learns to crawl first? Try beating Utah. This year 12-0 won't even land you in a BCS bowl (Fiesta, Orange).

Tomahawk Red
North Salt Lake, UT

Brent T. Aurora CO
Aurora, CO
Football should go to 4 conferences or divisions where annually the teams that finish last are out into a pool of teams that advances 4 qualifying teams into those four conferences. And even better would be tying the fates of basketball, baseball and other sports to the performance of their football team as to the conferences they play in

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If that's how it was, BYU wouldn't get anywhere near inclusion.

FACTchequer
Salt Lake City, UT

Tomahawk Red

Don't kid yourself. Television market size is the ONLY thing that "earned" Utah into the PAC 12, just as it did Colorado in the PAC 12, and Rutgers and Maryland into the B1G.

Boise State has far exceeded anything that Utah, Rutger, Colorado, or Maryland have done in the past 10 years, but they're in a small television market.

AltaHawkFan
Sandy, UT

I just love how BYU remains entrenched in ute fans' minds. It's an obsession they'll never be able to put down. It's amazing that they seem to care more about BYU than their own team. It lends credence to the saying that many ute 'fans' are BYU haters first and foremost.

The college football landscape is by no means finalized. There are many changes still to come and BYU has too good of a football team and overall athletic program not to be included in some way.

Just a suggestion for the many ute fans here, try supporting your team more and help them to be able to compete in your new conference for once. It's kind of embarrassing to have you be at the bottom of every sport in the pac 12 yearly.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

"...as you shift now towards the playoff model, it appears to me that the same number of conference games ought to be played amongst all power-five teams, and that all power-five leagues should have a conference championship game." -- Bronco

Hmmm. Last I checked, there was only ONE league that didn't play a conference championship game, and that's because they don't have 12 teams. They USED to, but they don't anymore. And that's the very same league the cougars made a run at -- twice -- and failed miserably. So if I were to read between the lines, it sounds like Bronco thinks if he can make a push for NCAA mandated 12-team leagues, the cougars could make a 3rd run, only this time with the Big 12's hands tied in to HAVING to invite 2 more teams. And he likely believes this favors the cougars.

Personally, I think if the NCAA actually does mandate 12+ team leagues, the Big 12 would just pick two OTHER teams, leaving the cougars "Fully Rejected" yet again.

Mildred in Fillmore
Salt Lake City, UT

BYU has the biggest stadium and most worldwide fans. There are 4 billion Chinese people watching our games too.

Brent T. Aurora CO
Aurora, CO

Tomahawk Red -- my suggestion has two positive points that have nothing directly to do with BYU, but do cover Bronco's lament that the playing field be level -- for everyone.

Point one is that programs outside the so-called Power 5 could earn their way into a tougher schedule by building consistent programs (one year flare-up gets you into the door, but not the national title or will keep you there). Conversely, programs weak on the gridiron wouldn't stay just by association with a power conference.

Point two is that, even when you're having a losing season, there is incentive and something to play for in not finishing at the bottom of the conference. Actually adds meaning to late season games throughout the conferences.

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