As an Independent voter, who really make up at least a third of the Countries
voters, Jon Huntsman is the only viable moderate GOP candidate on a National
Stage. The rest truly come across as rabid as they fight to outdo who is more
conservative, thus shrinking their appeal further on a National Stage. Jon
Huntsman has the aplomb, smahts, and experience on the National and
International level to make a great POTUS.
@ GaryO:After reading your outlandish comment bringing Hitler and
Nazism into this topic conversation, it truly seems you've become a lost
cause. Sorry, but your strange line of reasoning speaks totally for itself.
No mainstream Republican can win a national election. the GOP must offer
someone with mainstream appeal who can win over independents who are
pro-business (e.g., won't shut government down in the name of ideology),
recognize the value of science (e.g., understanding the threat of climate
change, value of renewable energy), and are pragmatic on social issues (e.g.,
immigration reform, need for increased minimum wage, gay marriage rights, etc.).
Hilary will be tough to beat in 2016, and no Republican -- not
Christy, not Jeb Bush, not Rick Perry, not Cruz or Mike Lee -- will be able to
draw women, minorities, or independents to win at the national level. Huntsman really is the only GOP with bipartisan appeal.
John Huntsman Jr. is not a conservative. Pro-life Republicans like myself who
support traditional marriage will not vote for him. When he ran in 2012 he
refused to sign the National Organizational of Marriage's pledge to protect
traditional marriage. His views on this issue does not fly with the religious
conservatives who make up the Republican Party.
He was one of the finest Govenors Utah has ever had and left with high approval
ratings (the very opposite of Mitt Romney's track record in Mass) but he
has no chance. Additionally, like Al Gore, he could probably accomplish much
more by never winning.
I'm finding it kind of hilarious how many commenters here call Huntsman
arrogant. For saying he's open to the idea of running but frankly admits
he doesn't know how he would be able to get through the early primaries?
For offering candid praise for the competency of the leading democrat? If
that's arrogance, then what would humility be?
And once again, the extremists of the GOP will prevent the party from putting
forth a candidate who could actually be elected and could actually serve as an
I love all the complaining about the "extreme right" or Tea Party folks
by the likes of Furry and others. They want a centrist from the Repubs to make
the nomination who will eventually be elected. Have you not been
paying attention? Centerist exhibit 1 is John McCain. Exhibit 2 is Mitt Romney.
They didn't fare too well in the elections now did they. Huntsman is even
further Left than those 2.What we need is an actual Conservative to
run for POTUS so we can have a clear line in the sand to vote for Socialism or
come back to the Constitution. I choose the latter.But thanks for
your advice on what to do with the Repub party, even when you laughably claim to
be a member of it.
I thought he was a Democrat!
Huntsman has no chance of being nominated for 2016 because he cannot make it
through the primaries. The Neanderthals would have his head on a stick. If
he wants to be President, he should prep for later, running for another office
and serving in it before 2020.
Concinitti“I never used that phrase at all.” Sure you
did. Remember? . . . Something about my credibility going “out the
window.” . . . Doesn’t matter.Personal competence and
Party affiliation are both important. Hitler was pretty competent (aside from
being a little to overly optimistic, completely paranoid, and out of touch with
reality), but his Party affiliation just wouldn’t do it for me. I would
refuse to vote for him purely on the basis of his Party affiliation.The Modern Republican Party being what it is, I would feel extremely
uncomfortable with either a Republican or a Nazi President of the United
States, regardless of competence.
I think he was the only decent candidate. The only candidate (besides Paul)
really if you took out all the ones that weren't pandering.
"Of course you would be uneasy about a Republican president. We don't
yet know who will be on their ticket and yet you still make that kind of blanket
statement. That proves you're all about party affiliation and care nothing
about personal competence. That kind of attitude is a big part of why we
currently have such a disaster in Washington. Sadly, too many voters won't
simply judge candidates on their own personal qualification merits."
-ConcinnityI don't know why you are having such heartburn over
GaryO's approach to partisan politics; switch "Republican" to
"Democrat" and add ", state level, or local level" to
"national level" and you've just described the approach to partisan
politics of 70%+ of Utah voters who refuse to vote for competent, ethical,
responsive candidates who don't happen to have an "R" following
their name. Instead, we get the likes of John Swallow, Kevin Garn, and the late
David Gardner (or such characters as Curt Oda, Carl Wimmer, and Chris Buttars).
Unless you can honestly affirm that you haven't voted
"straight-ticket" Republican in the last however-many partisan
elections, I'm afraid that your complaint rings hollow.
Everyone keeps saying that no conservative Republican will ever be elected....?
When was the last time it was tried? Romney, McCain, Dole, Bush Sr., Bush
@ GaryO:Actually, you didn't help much. It just SEEMS to you
that you did. Where does your "out the window" comment come from? I
never used that phrase at all. But I do agree with you about it being a
good thing you're not running for public office. You would get eaten alive
in your very first person-to-person debate. That's deferring to reality.Of course you would be uneasy about a Republican president. We
don't yet know who will be on their ticket and yet you still make that kind
of blanket statement. That proves you're all about party affiliation and
care nothing about personal competence. That kind of attitude is a big part of
why we currently have such a disaster in Washington. Sadly, too many voters
won't simply judge candidates on their own personal qualification merits.
BTW... Few Republicans still claim Huntsman, nor has he done
anything in a long time to affiliate himself with their party. He's even
exploring running as a 3rd party candidate. So why be so adamant about him being
a Republican? Yes, reality does trump all. But you seem to be hiding
Hi Concinnity –Thanks for reaching out.Right
“out the window” huh? Well, it’s a good thing I’m not
running for public office,.As a “true Moderate,” I agree with
everything I said. And I didn’t say that “Huntsman is
competent.” I said he SEEMS reasonably competent. That’s a big
difference.However, I know that Huntsman IS in fact a Republican.
And Republican politicians, by and large, are just NOT good public servants on
the national level. That was not always true, but it is true now. And since reality trumps all, I defer to reality . . . And yes, I would feel
extremely uneasy about having a Republican as President of the United States . .
. Even if it SEEMS he might be a good choice.I’m glad I could
IF he runs... it will only be because he wants to insure the Republican
doesn't win (and I wouldn't put that past him).Because he
has literally no chance of winning as a 3rd party candidate.
A Joe Liebermann - Jon Huntsmann 3rd party ticket would be interesting.
Because it would take votes from BOTH parties (not just one). But Democrats
wouldn't like that so much. Doesn't insure THEY win.
Don't bother. It's a waste of time and money. You won't win.
You don't have your party's support so you won't win the party
primary.If you run as a third-party candidate... you stand no chance
of winning. The only thing 3rd party run can do is be a distraction, and
influence the election by taking away some of one party or the other's
votes.Until they can WIN... they are a waste of time, and just end
up insuring the party they are least like... wins (because they take the least
votes from that candidate/party least like them).So they end up
insuring the party they are LEAST like... wins.====Huntsman running as 3rd party only insures any Democrat will win (hint...
that's why Democrats are all for it).He would get about 10% of
the Republican\Independent vote... but that's enough to insure the Democrat
wins.The margin of victory has never been more than 10%, so IF you
can keep 10% of Republicans or Independents from voting Republican.... Democrat
will win every time.That's why taking the Womens vote was so
important last time.
Hey Redshirt -"Hey liberals, I hate to break it to you, but the
fact that you love Jon Huntsman Jr. so much only shows that he is not a viable
canidate."You are ABSOLUTELY Right.The American
people DESERVE a clear choice.They should have a clear choice
between a Liberal/Commie/Democrat like Hillary Clinton and a Great American Tea
Party TRUE CONSERVATIVE like Ted Cruz.
Wouldn't a little intelligence and wisdom be a nice change from the usual
Klown Car nonsense? Win or lose, Huntsman would bring a little of that.
Ben Carson would be a much better candidate and a much better President than any
others whose names have been mentioned thus far, either Republican or Democrat,
conservative or liberal.
Speaking of Day Dreaming out loud... How about a Clinton/Hunstman
ticket?That would garner 90% of the votes...Democrats -
Indpendants - Left - Center - and Center Right.vs. what?Beck - Palin - Perry - Gingrich - Bachmann - Huckabee - Trump?Seriously.The GOP has morphed into a Cartoon.BTW -- to
all you : "Huntsman had a chance and lost" types -- Romney took 3
times to squeeze into the nomination, only to get trounced in the General
Please not this Bildberg attendee again. He and Romney should be arrested for
treason for attending this meeting of Gadianton Robbers.
What a sight it would be if he teamed up with Hilary as her VP choice, because
that's the only way he will ever be elected. He is to fair minded for the
GOP we have now.
@ GaryO:You and those of a similar attitude could learn much from a
centrist like Huntsman. Your current and obvious over-the-top bias against
conservatives is indicative of what turns many people against democrats and
gives them a bad image among true moderates as well as conservatives.It's sad that in one breath you claim that Huntsman is competent, and
then in the next breath state that you would never be comfortable having him as
president because of his Republican heritage. It truly doesn't get much
more biased than that. It little wonder things are terrible in Washington when
party affiliation (past or current) becomes more important to some voters than a
candidate's level of competency to serve. What credibility I
may've previously had in your general acumen went out the window with your
Hey liberals, I hate to break it to you, but the fact that you love Jon
Huntsman Jr. so much only shows that he is not a viable canidate. McCain and
Jr. are about the same, and McCain had to get a conservative VP so that he had a
chance. Jr. isn't smart enough to get a conservative VP.Those
of you saying that he is a conservative are wrong. At best he is a moderate,
neither liberal or conservative. In reality he is more liberal than anything
Huntsman is not conservative? No rational person would say that. No, he
doesn't throw out red meat to the rabid, but he is definitely a
conservative. Apparently in today's Republican party, you are not
considered "conservative" unless you ONLY talk about: 1. Benghazi, 2.
your desire to overturn the ACA and replace it with...well something, and 3.
Obama the socialist who is purposefully trying to become the dictator of the
country, but is too weak to scare anybody anywhere ever. Used to be there was a
4th one -- your pledge to make sure no laws were passed that treated gays
equally in any way, but that one has gone by the wayside lately.
@bikeboy - I think they're referring to her political charisma. It was
well-documented (especially early in his presidency) that people often
questioned who the real politician was in the Clinton family. Bill's
campaign manager and later adviser told him that whenever he was trying to push
one of his initiatives he needed to send Hillary away on some kind of good-will
assignment, or off on a trip so she wouldn't outshine him. If she
didn't have Benghazi hanging over her head, she'd have a decent shot.
Huntsman's a centrist. I don't think he'll ever be
president, but he could be Secretary of State...
@Cats 6:57 a.m. May 7, 2014I don't think he has a
snowball's chance of getting the nomination. Besides, when you're the
Democrats' favorite Republican, that says a lot about where you are
politically.----------------Yes, it does say a lot about
him politically. It says he is right where a proper candiddate for president
should be politically properly to represent all the people in the country. He
is center-right politically, and that makes him a true conservative who is
Republican but can also seek and get support from Democrats. He is just what
the country needs.
@BB 8:32 a.m. May 7, 2014Jon Huntsman is NOT a conservative, which
is very disappointing.-----------------Jon Huntsman is a
true conservative, not an extreme far right wing fringe-dwelling RINO. Having
him as a candidate for President would be a good thing for the Republican Party
and the United States. having him in the White House would be a very good and
encouraging thing for all concerned. Howver, since the far right
fringe-dwellers probably wouldn't vote for someone who was rational,
reasonable and centrist at the nominating level, I find it unlikely that he
could make it to the general election. And that's sad.
He feels that Hillary has more "charisma" than Bill? THAT, if nothing
else, should prove that Mr. Huntsman doesn't see things the way most people
do. I'm not particularly fond of either of the Clintons, but Bill's
forté is his charisma! Hillary has as much charisma as a wet blanket.Is the Republican party doomed? The Democrats seem to do better at
reconciling the differences between the leftist/socialist and "moderate"
Democrats. The "moderate"/RINO Republicans and conservative/tea-party
types seem to have much more distance between them.If NOBODY in D.C.
is fiscally conservative, I don't hold out much long term hope for our
government or the way of life we've grown accustomed to. At some point,
there will be much weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth when the House of
Huntsman should run again, following the Ross Perot method. Use your own money
and your own party. Maybe the No Labels Party, huh?That way he can draw
from the GOP and the Democrats. Who knows? Maybe he can get 4% of the vote that
I enjoy all of the advice from liberals on who the Republicans should
nominate.I remember hearing that Reagan was an extremist and could
never get elected then he won two landslide victories and was so popular at the
end of his term that he helped George Bush get elected.Keep the
advice coming it is always good for a laugh.
Moderate Republicans are Democrats. Everyone says the Republicans won't
compromise--why don't they say the same thing about the Democrats. Look
what compromise has gotten us--17 Trillion of debt, entitlements out of control,
bigger and bigger government, imperial presidents, a left wing judiciary, an EPA
that's totally out of control.
Jon Huntsman is NOT a conservative, which is very disappointing.
The Republican party has lost its marbles. News flash: No right wing neo-con is
going to win a general election! Every time you put one of these guys (or
girls) up, what you're saying is we forfeit.The Republicans are
going to have to compromise and nominate a centrist like Huntsman - the
alternative is 8 years of Hillary Clinton.But Republicans are still
in this thought pattern where they will cut off their nose to spite their face.
He has no shot because he is an intelligent and honest person that realizes that
most Americans are a little to the left or a little to the right of center, and
that the republican party is determined by the morons that love Hannity and that
is who you have to have on your side to win the nomination. Bush won as a
"compassionate conservative" because he had the power brokers with him
from his father. Do not expect another republican president until a moderate
can win a primary.
Wow the arrogance is amazing, and i agree, Why would he go for the GOP, he
is way more a Democrat. And maybe they won'e even want him because he is
so wishy washy. Be a Man and donate the money to people in need and don't
waste it on your self.
Why is it anyone who doesn't tote the line of extreme conservatism but
calls themselves a Republican is labeled as a RINO?For years, Sean
Hannity said he wasn't a Republican, but is a Conservative. He did this
with the understanding that a party has many layers and not everyone in the
party think and feel the same way about every issue.That's how
parties used to and should be. Unfortunately, there are those that are trying
to oust anyone who isn't as far right as they are from the Republican
Party. These people are the cause of the headlines stating that Republicans are
racists, hate women, oppose science, etc.. For the Republican party
to win National Elections, it must be inclusive, not push more people away.
With an increasing amount of people in the country saying they like some or most
of the Democratic platform and less saying they like the Conservative Republican
platform, a Conservative Republican will be fighting harder and harder to get
even 40% of the vote.Mitt Romney couldn't get Independents to
vote for him. Don't stop the Republicans only hope because of
I don't think he has a snowball's chance of getting the nomination.
Besides, when you're the Democrats' favorite Republican, that says a
lot about where you are politically.
If he somehow made it past the primaries, Huntsman would have a real shot at
becoming President."I can't tell you how I get through
those early primary states . . . "No he can't. That's
because Right Wing Extremists dominate the Republican Party, and they won't
nominate anyone who could actually win in the General Election.When
it comes to Presidential races, the Republicans are their own worst enemies, and
maybe that's for the best.Even though Huntsman seems reasonably
competent and level-headed, his Republican pedigree (with all the nonsense that
entails) makes him too great a risk; and I wouldn't be comfortable with him
occupying this nation's highest office.But since the extremist
Right-Wing base of the Republican Party ensures us that no ELECTABLE Republican
presidential candidate will ever make it past the primaries, we won't have
to worry about a Republican candidate being elected president.Thank
you Extremist Republicans. Thank you for being you.
A lot of snarky comments - especially from the far right. The GOP is so warped
right now that only extremism gets their votes. The right wing is the way of
failure, in terms of political candidates and their view of what they want
America to be. They warn of a downfall, and then promptly lead us there.
I'm not particularly a Huntsman supporter, but he recognizes the folly of
conservatism that deviates from right of center.
Actually - Huntsman would be a more reasonable Democrat than Hilary. But not
To get the middle 60% Clinton is going to have Huntsman be her Vice President.
Many Americans are weary of the partisanship, so this compromise will be a huge
selling point: A Democrat for two terms and then it will be Republican
Huntsman's turn to be President. It hasn't been done for over a
hundred years, but they'll be looking to shake things up. It just might
Huntsman isn't positioning himself to run for president again. Rather, he
believes the election math again favors the Democratic nominee, & he
believes the most likely Democratic nominee will be Clinton. His intention, by
putting his name out there with his praise of Clinton, is to try & gain a
position in a Clinton presidency. He knows he doesn't have a shot at
winning the Republican nomination, nor gaining a position in a Republican
administration, if the GOP were to recapture the presidency. He is casting
himself with Democrats.
Wrong type of republican, could win the Presidency, but has no chance of winning
Please, for the love of Pete......say it ain't so!
Arrogance has no limits.
I hope he doesn't run again. At best, he would try to be a spoiler. I
don't think he has a chance at all in the Primary. I personally think he
likes to keep his name in the headlines!Republican? No! Democrat
disguised as a Moderate Republican (RINO? Probably.
Good grief. Didn't he get the message the first time?
I love watching people who have more dollars then "sense", waste money.
Please please run again, just for the entertainment value. Such a do nothing
genius, the guy has zero chance! Unless he switches parties, where they would
happily welcome his left wing politics.
After Hillary gets finished answering the questions about Benghazi - the
democrats MIGHT want Huntsman since Hillary won't be electable.Huntsman's probably a little better than Biden. But not by much.
run as a Democrat Jon - the GOP is done with you.
The big question on another possible Huntsman candidacy is:Which
party will Huntsman run on? He sure is not a Republican, or at least in line
with any of the Republican platform positions. Huntsman was a
mediocre governor (at best), although a very good Ambassador. He should quit
while he is ahead, and find some charitable operation or educational institution
to fiddle with.He is not fit to be President, even though I voted
for him as Governor.
I think Jon Huntsman's assessment of the 2016 campaign situation is
spot-on. The ultracon/tea party wing of the Republican Party would never let
Huntsman, a comparatively more moderate conservative, or anyone like him, get
anywhere near the RNC nomination. They apparently have more contempt for those
they consider RINOs than they even have for the Democrats. The smear that Gov.
Christie got hit with is a pretty good indicator of what would happen to Jon
Huntsman if he managed to get any traction in the primaries. On the
other hand, if he were somehow able to win the nomination, he would almost
certainly have broad appeal among mainstream Republicans, moderate Republicans,
a large percentage of unaffiliated voters, and even a significant number of
conservative and moderate Democrats who may not be thrilled with the prospect of
Hillary Clinton becoming "Madam President". It is very possible that he
could run away with a general election . . . if he could win the nomination; but
the ultracons will end up foisting someone like Ted Cruz on the Republican
Party, and the result will be four years (more likely eight) of President
Hillary Clinton. And that's okay by me.
He's too smart for the nat'l GOP, but would make a great centrist Dem.
Please don't bother, Huntsman ... you would not MAKE it through the
It would be a shame to waste all that money just to lose again. He has no
Oh joy!Be still my heart.
Oh please, it was miserable then and nothing has changed since.
How many years would he be willing to stick with the job? It would be a
stepping stone to what?
With Huntsman in the race, the Republicans would finally have a candidate who
could win the White House. Him running for president would be good news for the
Republicans and the USA.