This will leave little doubt about how serious Utah is about basketball. I love
the direction this program is headed in. Go Utes!
Agreed, motorbike. Coach K has done a brilliant job bringing the Utah program
back to life. This facility will set the bar across the country.Go
Thank you John Huntsman! Go Utes
Simply another example of how conference affiliation and money produce more
separation between Utah and other programs in the state. The time to
respond is before the difference is so large that they are no longer
Back TalkFederal Way, WA"Simply another example of how
conference affiliation and money produce more separation between Utah and other
programs in the state." Why do you care about separation of Utah
from other programs in the state? You live in Washington.
The improvements to Utah's athletic facilities, and campus as a whole, have
been very exciting.Go Utes!
Very nice facility. The Utes have opened up the check book for football and
basketball. The program is on the rise; no doubt!
Back TalkOnce a little brother; always a little brother.The kids on the hill are obsessed with comparing everything the U does with
what's happening with their big brother's.Just to ease
your anxiety, plans for BYU's new basketball practice facility are well
underway and will be announced shortly.
Looks like it will be a very nice facility that Utah students should enjoy.
Don't know why some Utah fans feel compelled to compare everything that
happens on the hill with BYU, but that's their choice.
@GCActually I count one comment from a Utah fan towards BYU; and two
comments from BYU fans towards Utah. This is a story about Utah's
facilities; not BYU's. Now who obsessed with who? It appears you have this
"Don't know why some Utah fans feel compelled to compare everything
that happens on the hill with BYU"Actually, a BYU fan was the
first to mention BYU, but that's his/her choice, and your choice to read it
that way.The new facility should be great. Felt a little anxiety
watching photos and videos of Coaches K and L knocking down the HPER East
stairwell, lot of hours I spent in that building! Can't wait to visit and
see what it's like when this first phase is complete, and the subsequent
StGtoSLCDon't kid yourself - we all know who Back Talk was
referring to when he mentioned "other programs in the state", and it
Snack, whether he intended to or not, his comment applies much more to SUU, USU
and WSU than BYU, since those are the other state-sponsored schools, and who
subsidize nearly all of their athletic budget with University money, while
Utah's is becoming more self-sufficient each year. As a private school, BYU
obviously has their own system of facility renovation, and that's great,
good luck with that. But mentioning them here is akin to the the poster who was
upset earlier in the year that an article about Delon Wright failed to mention
Tyler Haws in it. The fact remains: BYU was never mentioned until a BYU fan did
Snack PACOlympus Cove, Utah"Don't kid yourself - we
all know who Back Talk was referring to when he mentioned..."Jay
Drew at the SL Trib ran a story yesterday about byu facilities falling behind.
Honestly, the desire to keep us is the only reason I can think of that would
explain why byu-provo folks would be interested in this story.Again,
my thanks to the Huntsman family for their continued support in the growth and
development of academics, research, and athletics at the University of Utah.Go Utes!!Go Pac-12!!
This is awesome for Utah basketball!! With this new facility and the new
recruits coming into the program over the next couple of years the Utes have a
great opportunity to be among the top teams in the Pac 12.
MyPerspective"Honestly, the desire to keep us is the only reason
I can think of that would explain why [BYU fans] would be interested in this
story."So how do you explain why the kids on the hill are so
obsessed with EVERY BYU story?The truth is, Utah's facilities
have lagged behind BYU's facilities for years and you're just starting
to catch up. You still don't have competition quality baseball
and track facilities of your own and your miniature football and basketball
arenas have been dwarfed by BYU's arenas for decades.
This does not seem like a very good use of a very large sum of money.
Didnt think my comments would be taken that personally by anyone. I
simply pointed out that BYU (and others) need to keep up with key facilities in
order to stay competitive in recruiting etc. Conference affiliation and sugar
daddy boosters play a big part in that by the money they generate. BYU has long reported a need and an interest in getting a new basketball
practise facility. Coach Rose has done so well at BYU that I hope he gets the
support that his team deserves so that they can continue to improve and he can
enjoy a new facility.Some people think it is only a matter of time.
Hopefully, that will be a matter of a short time rather than a long time.
"Why do you care about separation of Utah from other programs in the state?
You live in Washington."Ah, because there are fans of different
schools from all states.Hope BYU's mens and womans recent
recruits can look forward to being in a similarly great facility soon (2016?).
@MyperspectiveSpot on. Thanks for the reference to the Trib article;
interesting read. I have known Jay Drew since 8th grade and he remains a good
friend today. Good writer, good guy! Take Care and yes....Go Utes!
talkinsportsGilbert, AZ"So how do you explain why the kids
on the hill are so obsessed with EVERY BYU story?"What story do
you think you are commenting on? This has nothing to do with byu-provo. "The truth is, Utah's facilities have lagged behind BYU's
facilities for years and you're just starting to catch up."Catch up? Caught up and passed. My, my, how times have changed. You are
here because you, like Holmoe, are sensing a gap starting to form. byu-provo
fans are finally realizing that the ponies and rainbows Holmoe sold them on the
independence experiment were a dream and all of you are starting to wake up.
Regarding facilities, if byu-provo had developed a robust academic
and research infrastructure 50 years ago instead of building sports venues that
are no longer filled, byu-provo might have accompanied the Utes to the elite.
Rise and pout.
Back TalkFederal Way, WAQuestion: "Why do you care about
separation of Utah from other programs in the state? You live in
Washington."True Answer: Hope BYU's mens and womans recent
recruits can look forward to being in a similarly great facility soon (2016?).
So, Back Talk, your comment is all about byu-provo. Clearly, you
are also concerned about the widening gap. So, what do you think? Holmoe has
been talking up a basketball facility for ten years. Where is it and do you
believe that he now has a fire lit under him to take action or are his remarks
(again) purely coincidental with the ground breaking for Utah's facility?
I'd like to hear what you think.
Spokane UteSpokane, WAJ. Drew writes well. I often find
myself wishing he would write for the Utes but there seems to be some changes at
the Trib and the Utes are getting much better coverage, now. He
does bring an interesting edge to the facility question at byu. They (Holmoe
and Rose) seem to be getting concerned and have a greater sense of urgency to
The only sense of urgency to do anything is at the U. To catch up and to spend
the money before the source dries up.Mind you now, whatever the U
builds will pale in comparison to its so called 'power conference'
brothers in the PAC 10.So with that in mind we know and understand
what the U is really doing... just improving things locally. LOL
@ talkinsportsFacilities include more than just stadiums. The
Eccles Football Center and the soon to be Huntsman Basketball facility will both
dwarf anything BYU has on campus. I know for a fact that the athletic training
room in BYU's Student Athlete Building isn't even in the same
stratosphere as the one Utah put in the Eccles. I'm sure the same holds
true for the locker rooms, player lounge, eating hall, etc.As for
the stadiums. BYU's may be bigger, but RES and the JMHC are much nicer and
more comfortable. That will continue to be so with the upcoming renovations.
sammygSpringville, UT"Mind you now, whatever the U builds
will pale in comparison to its so called 'power conference' brothers
in the PAC 10."That's right, sammyg, byu-provo can no
longer compete with the Utes so take solace knowing there are those who can
compete. You'll sleep better at night. Brovo, sammyg, brovo!
I've said it before and I'll say it again:I love my Pac 12
membership and the Pac 12 money that basically grows on trees for us now!The biggest challenge we have is how to spend it all. And
this is yet another reason Utah is separating itself from the WAC programs in
the state.You think recruits care about state of the art over the
top brand new facilities?Yep!
Talkinsports,According to an article in the SL Trib the Utes have
surpassed BYU with the new football facility and now the basketball facility.
Tom Holmoe doesn't seem to have an answer when asked if BYU is going to
build a basketball training facility. BYU currently doesn't have one and
there are no real plans to build one. The basketball teams practice in the
Marriott Center, when it's available, and do their individual workouts in
the student fitness center. BYU has nothing to compare to what the Utes are
currently building, so this isn't catching up, it's flying past. The
Cougars are in the Ute's rear view mirror as far as facilities go.
The BYU athletic administration is in a tough spot. They know they need a
basketball training facility, but the donors they are asking to donate have been
asked by the LDS Church to donate to the expanded missionary effort. The Church
is currently spending tens of millions of dollars expanding missionary training
centers across the world and has asked members to increase their donations to
the mission fund of the Church to help with this. Tom Holmoe knows this and may
have even been told not to ask for too much money for athletics right now so
wealthy Church members can focus their donations on the missionary efforts. I
believe this is why when asked about the basketball facility Holmoe simply says
they are quietly conducting fundraising and don't have a timetable or a
When you have something as beautiful as the MC, you don't need a basketball
The Huntsman family are incredible people. The generosity to the University of
Utah and their world class cancer facilities for the people in the intermountain
area are tremendous. To CG: "Once a little brother;
always a little brother.The kids on the hill are obsessed with
comparing everything the U does with what's happening with their big
brother's."Big brother lives on the hill and has won a NCAA
National Championship, been to four Final Fours, had the #1 overall pick in the
NBA draft and won 20 more NCAA Tournament games with one less appearance than
little brother from Provo.Just to ease your anxiety, plans for
BYU's new basketball practice facility are well underway and will be
Talknsports,The Huntsman Center has hosted a final four. Also it
either holds the record or is close to the record for the mumber to NCAA
Tournament games hosted there. Marriott Center, not even close.Huntsman Center, all chair seats, no bleachers.The U does have a
new state of the art outdoor track facility.
@talkinsports"So how do you explain why the kids on the hill are
so obsessed with EVERY BYU story?" Says the byU fan on a Utah
story.Nice job Coach K on getting us excited for Utah basketball
again! Thanks Hill for doing something about that excitement!Go
Utes!Onward and Upward!
Dutchman, the McCarthy track is far from state of the art, but it is very
serviceable, and has the potential for future investment to become state of the
Talknsports,Also, the 15,000 seat Huntsman Center is the largest
basketball venue in the PAC 12. When the new basketball training center is
finished and the outer perimeter of the Huntsman is vacated as all that moves
into the new training center another major renovation of the Huntsman will begin
by widening the concourse and adding new restrooms and concession areas. It
just keeps getting better with age.
@Back Talk like the NIT appearances and losses? That is some pretty big
separation between other schools that go to a real tournament
StGtoSLC,The track has the same dimensions and surface as Oregon and
Texas as well as other top level track programs. I think that makes it more
To Mormon Ute: your comments concerning the track size is correct, however,
and it's a big however.... NO Bleechers.... Now how in the world can yu
hold a track meet of any stature without any place to sit. Puting people and
athletes on the ground is "bush league" especially in the PAC 12
Mormon Ute, the track at my hometown Dixie State University has the "same
dimensions" as Hayward Field in Eugene. However, it is in no way, shape or
form serviceable, although it does have a much higher capacity for attendance
than the McCarthy track. But like I said, it has potential for investment to be
much better. Seating and concessions amenities for fans is part of it, as is the
track itself.The track is a standard rubber track, what you find at
high schools, although it's in very good shape because it's still
pretty new. Additionally, its location and space limitations make it difficult
to have all field events on site. That's a tougher issue to solve, but not
impossible. If we want it to be "state of the art," we'd need to
front some cash for a mondo surface, increased seating, and more adjacent field
space. With those additions, the new softball complex, honors dorms, student
life center, and renovated Huntsman Center surrounding the track would make a
very inviting backdrop to host some great meets.