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Published: Saturday, May 3 2014 5:00 a.m. MDT

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rw123
Sandy, UT

We live in a day when mental illness seems to have a little less stigma than it used to. It's still there, but with the education,the outreach, and the medical advances that have taken place, it has diminished. But someone who has such illnesses can feel isolated as society moves around them. They may have broken dreams from youth that they know they probably will never meet.

They can be in denial or fully aware of their illness. They may take their medications or they may think they don't need them. Or they may feel better when they take them, and therefore assume they no longer need them. Getting help from a competent doctor or psychiatrist is crucial. Also, getting counseling from a competent therapist with an understanding of, and a sympathy towards, gospel values can help significantly. The gospel of Jesus Christ can be a wonderful part of healing if the individual will pray for relief and seek help.

rw123
Sandy, UT

The author is right. The mentally ill need kindness and love. Almost without exception, every soul that comes into this world will respond in some positive way (either noticeably or just inwardly) to kindness and love. Being the caregiver is a daunting task, and can range from inconvenient, to difficult ,to heart-wrenching, to impossible for laymen, depending on the nature and degree of mental illness. But remember, to the Lord, there are no “throwaway” souls. Though the mentally ill may be at the bottom of human society, they won’t be ill forever. In the hereafter they will be free of their illnesses and we will see them as they are. And just as importantly, so will they.

sthomaslewis
Corvallis, OR

I agree that those suffering from emotional problems need support and professional counseling. However, they need to be discouraged from taking antidepressants, particularly th SSRIs such as Prozac, Zolofft, and Luvox. They can make people suicidal and homicidal. The shootings at high schools in Columbine and Springfield, Oregon had those drugs as a root cause. Children taking Adderal and Ritalin have died from cardiac arrest. Antipsychotics, such as Zyprexa and Risperdal, cause weight gain and diabetes. Please go to the website www.breggin.com.

Big Joe V
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

I am divorcing my wife who has BPD because she has worn me out emotionally, physically, and spiritually. You can only do what you can in some cases and then you have to move on to save yourself. I have clinical depression and it is not compatible. I poured my soul into her problems, but it seemed a game to see how far she much she could throw at me emotionally and suck out of me emotionally. Ant it is sad because she can't control it.

jeanie
orem, UT

As someone who suffered from a dibilitating mental/emotional illness as a young adult I remember being shocked at how dark my life had become, exactly like standing in the center of a cave when they turn the lights out. You are afraid to move and easily disoriented. I did not know such darkness existed. Everything I had been taught and believed as a child about God and religion abandoned me: God is always there, comfort reading scriptures, attending church, praying, etc.

I remember deciding that I would continue to attend church, pray and read my scriptures even though I often felt condemned and very angry. I leaned heavily on loved ones around me. Slowly, as I got help, the darkness began to fade.

It is now over 20 years since I was sick. I am so glad I made the decision to stubbornly continue to hold on to the gospel and thankful for the strength of those who loved me. My understanding of exactly how God fulfills his promises has changed and I am stronger & more resiliant for it. My life since then has been happy and successful, largely due to the lessons I learned during that awful time.

Big Joe V
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

@sthomaslewis.
There is a world of treatment with medication and therapy that over shadows your point of view. Don't ever council someone the stop taking their medication or against seeking help to receive medically prescribed treatment. The biggest hurdle to help for those with psychiatric problem is still the stigma that exists which is the point of the article. There are mental conditions that you never get over. Bi-polar, clinical depression, and others. Just like someone with certain diabetes it is a life sentence with no days off. Don't ever propose someone stop their psychiatric meds nor more than to tell a diabetic to stop theirs.

chemimagineer
Spanish Fork, UT

That talk was a breath of fresh air after 20+ years of dealing with it in our family...and the devasting affects it has on the spouse and the kids. No one ever knows what to expect...and my spouse refused the diagnoses and the drug forms of help...with "there is nothing wrong with me". In its place, my spouse would only take natural remedies...NONE of which worked...and we spent up to $15,000 per year for them. I must say the Q96 product holds hope but never could get my spouse to try it. Disappearances, temper tantrums, threats against the kids, activities outside marital vows, secret life, physical threats that were carried out a few times by my spouse, threats to put all the kids in reform schools for standing up to my spouse when SHE was caught in the wrong, secret everything with locks & secret spy cameras on all computer activity...the list goes on and on.

Ann Blake-Tracy
Henderson, NV

@Big Joe V Do not ignore the warnings of sthomaslewis. This information is correct yet far worse. It is only true that depression and mental illness can take years to overcome if you place your trust in the arm of flesh rather than the Savior. I see people overcome these things quickly without drugs. But knowing how to withdraw from them safely is absolutely crucial.

For almost two decades I have worked very closely with one of two scientists, Dr. Candace Pert, who made antidepressants possible and greatly regretted this voicing her concerns over their safety and calling antidepressants "monsters" while encouraging patients to turn to diet and exercise instead - our own Word of Wisdom? Candace was highly respected and served as Chief of the Section on Brain Biochemistry of the Clinical Neuroscience Branch of the National Institute of Mental Health(NIMH)for 13 years.

I have been testifying as an expert witness in criminal cases involving these drugs since 1992. And Candace sat on my Board of Directors until her death last fall. She and I both would tell you that you can overcome any of the health issues, mental or physical, you listed above, without drugs.

dobberdobber
Ivins, UT

For many the difference between a "life" and living homeless on the street is a strong family or friend support system. Having a son with mental illness (who has an angel for a wife) makes me realize that the only difference between many of the homeless on the street and my son is the support system he has. He has a great faith in God and Christ, but that alone is not enough. He and countless others need kind loving people around them to be a support and not a "judge". The movie "A Beautiful Mind" changed my son's life. It helped him accept who he is and not let the disease control his life. Early on a police officer almost ended my son's life by not understanding the condition. Had my wife and I not been there at the time I don't think my son would be with us today. If I had not stood between the office and my son, he would have been shot. The key to success is realizing it is the disease and not the person and have great compassion and understanding.

let's roll
LEHI, UT

@ Ann

Some may interpret your statement that you "can" overcome mental illness without drugs to mean that EVERYONE who uses exercise and diet WILL overcome their malady and that NO ONE who uses drugs will have a positive result.

As an experienced expert witness, I'm sure you're aware that experts who insist on testifying to absolutes (e.g. everyone, no one) are not credible with juries...juries have enough life experience to discredit "one size fits all" theories.

What about patients whose conditions persist after a diet and exercise regimine? Are medications never an option? Regardless of severity?

Everyone who undertakes any treatment program (including prescription medication and diet/exercise) should do so after examining the alternatives, with their eyes wide open to the fact no treatment is infallible and may have side effects.

Patients and their caregivers (guardians) are well-served to objectively examine all options, continue with those that prove most effective for them and, above all, remember "results may vary."

UT Brit
London, England

@Ann Blake-Tracy

Please never tell people to stop taking prescribed medication unless you are a qualified professional. Diet and exercise is not the one stop cure for mental illness. Telling people to live the word of wisdom while praying really hard is very dangerous. I have seen this first hand and its attitudes like yours that need to stop in the church.

Moontan
Roanoke, VA

@dobberdobber ... It sounds like your daughter-in-law isn't the only angel in your son's life. I was once a young law enforcement officer, untrained in how to deal with the mentally ill. I hope your post is read by many. Bravo, sir.

@Ann Blake-Tracy ... and having tired of law enforcement, I did 25 years in hospital administration. I sincerely hope you do not advocate cessation of antidepressants without the prescribing physicians oversight. That is just plain dangerous.

Willie deG
CALGARY, 00

Like all things prescription medicines must be used wisely and tested by the patient and caregivers to look for any signs of problems. I had bipolar disorder before I was 5 years old but did not realize it until I was over 60. I also have anxiety disorder which drives my manic side and OCD. I started on antidepressants when I was 49 but had to add lithium carbonate to level my moods. My wife was ecstatic because I didn't have the temper outbursts that I was infamous for. I had to stop the lithium carbonate because it was hurting my kidneys.

Willie deG
CALGARY, 00

I later stopped my antidepressants and tried a mineral/ vitamin therapy that had worked on others but after 3 months my wife told me they weren't working and by this time I knew she was my weathervane so I returned to my antidepressants and after a bad outburst of anger away from my home my doctor put me on seroquel to level my moods and I am running level for the most part. I have been running deeper into depression and would like to change my antidepressant but in discussion with my doctor I can't because of the good effect the Paxal has on my anxiety disorder. I am getting used to being at a lower level mentally emotionally and know that I may have to be this way for the rest of my life. I have not been active for 3 years but when I was active it didn't seem to me to make me any better than I am now. I still have a strong testimony of the gospel and I always will.

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