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Published: Thursday, May 1 2014 9:55 p.m. MDT

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nvfan
Cedar City, UT

Well, I am now 4 for 4 on my predictions. Region 9 just won 4 out of 4 of their opening games. Congrats to Cedar, Snow Canyon, Dixie and Pine View.

Hats off to Stansbury for playing a highly competitive game against Cedar that could have gone either way. I knew it would be a difficult game for either team to win. I just felt that the more difficult region schedule that Cedar had played would pay off in the end. Now we are coming to the second and more competitive round of games on Saturday. I predict, using the same logic I used for the first games, that every Region 9 team will again come out on top. This is not to say that any of these games will be easy wins, especially the Cedar/Park City and the Snow Canyon/Juan Diego games. But playing the extremely hard region 9 schedule will be the difference again.

future professor
MECHANICSVILLE, VA

The sad part is that Desert Hills, the 5th team in a region of 7, had to stay home while the other regions all got to send 4 out of their 5 teams. Still trying to understand how the folks at UHSAA do math.

nvfan
Cedar City, UT

I agree with you. Something needs to change for future playoffs. Desert Hills and also Hurricane deserved to play post season much more than many of the other teams that made it. Their was two teams that came into the playoffs as 4th seeds with only a 1 win, 1 tie record, playing in their weaker regions. Richfield drove all that distance just to get trounced 12-0. It doesn't make any sense at all. They should be playing in the 2a division not 3a- in soccer. It doesn't do either team any good to have Richfield get trounced that bad, especially in a playoff game.

WeberCatBasketballFan
Midway, UT

Seriously? The math is simple... 4 regions, 4 teams each... 16 teams. 5 rounds... seriously? Always been that way. It was never an issue until a couple of the 3A teams moved up to 4A in northern regions and the two 4A teams in the southern region moved back to 3A. Look at region 6 only half of them make the playoffs. Would you rather that the two biggest schools in region 9 move back to 4A and travel to play in regions 7 and 8? How about if one moves to region 12 so they both have 6? Right now it is simple, finish in the top 4 to make the state playoffs whether you are 3A, 4A or 5A.

WeberCatBasketballFan
Midway, UT

Actually your predictions are "1) all Region 9 teams will win their first round games 2) the ultimate State Champion will come from Region 9 3) both finalists will be from Region 9" so you are 1/3. 1/4 if you count "every Region 9 team will again come out on top in the second round." When Juan Diego wins in the semi-final and the championship, you will be 1/4 after the fact. :)

nvfan
Cedar City, UT

Nice count. I missed on the Snow Canyon game. Dang it. But if you count each game as prediction, which it is, it goes more like this. 1) all Region 9 teams will win their first round games (that is 4 correct predictions). 2) every Region 9 team will again come out on top in the second round. (that is 3 out of 4 correct). That adds up to 7 out of 8 correct predictions or 87.5% correct so far. Not too bad. Now we have two more rounds. 3) both finalists will be from Region 9 (One bracket is certain to be Region 9 and a 50% chance that the other bracket will be also.) Then we have the eventual champion We have a very good chance of that happening also.

As to your other post, if you remember, during the past two years, they have allowed a fifth team (rotated between the larger regions) to be allowed into the playoff. In fact the girls soccer teams this past Fall gave a fifth seed to region 9. The problem could then be solved in a similar manner. How about making all 4th seeds contingent on their record or some sort of play in game.

WeberCatBasketballFan
Midway, UT

Yeah, I remember, because my older son played basketball in 3A back then... but if I remember right, there was another region with 6 teams and they let the 5th from the south region match up against a higher seed from the other region with 5 teams and visa-versa (prior to the Judge, Wasatch move to 4A) and people complained about that too. The problem with using records is that if you have a loaded region and they beat each other up and a weak region where #4 has more wins in a really weak schedule, you are back in the very same boat! The only way to do it is either the way it is or to have a committee (educated preferably) seed them. Seeding would be better because it would also eliminate the regularly occurring "state championship in the semi or quarter final" which happens all to often here.

nvfan
Cedar City, UT

Not a bad idea. We might also have one more round for the 4th seeds from the weaker regions and the 5th seeds from the two stronger regions. That would just add two games.

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