Amy, bases on the current standings, it appears that Lehi was battling Riverton
for the final playoff spot. Am I missing something?
When it comes to high schools, is it ever about the kids?
Right. punish the kids for the coach's clerical error. Wow.
Clerical error ...It is just a trivial infraction ...The
This is absolutely ridiculous. The U.H.S.A.A. is an organization that is a
fraternity of good ole boys, they write rules and procedures in confusing and
vague terms, they do not update or correct their web site for months, then they
make modifications with effective dates that are retroactive to the publishing
dates. This ruling is completely unfair to those kids. This appears to be a
simple, trivial mistake by a first year coach and probably has to do with the
rules of Tournament play which are confusing in the UHSAA rules in any case.
Additionally, the UHSAA is constantly taking away from baseball to accommodate
football and basketball and they have again shortened the baseball Season in a
State that already has one of the shortest baseball Seasons in the Country, I
think if they had their way they would do away with Baseball altogether. 17-0
ruling, give me a break, I wonder how many committee members have sons playing
on other teams in the same Region. Slap their hands, deduct 2 games from next
year and let them play out their Season - UHSAA should get real. BTW Lehi is
mathematically out of region contention.
This is not the boys fault. It was an adult's mistake. They don't
need to be the victims of an honest human error. It is inspiring to see the
passion and fight of the young men being impacted by this poor decision by the
UHSAA. Follow them at: #letlehiplay
Wow, the Seniors on the team have to be heart-broken. Not only do they have the
opportunity to end the season fighting for a play-off position, they don't
even get to play a final home game in front of their family and friends. Boo
This is the easy solution. Let them play and then cut all of their non-league
contests next year.
How many games do they get, I see several teams that will have over 24 games, if
I read correctly Lehi has played 22 as of now and has 4 more games scheduled so
that must mean 24 is the limit? Salem Hills, Park City, Layton, Taylorsville,
and Cottonwood are a few teams that have 25 games scheduled but if 24 is the
limit how is that supposed to work? I guess if tournaments that play 2 games in
one day only counts as 1 game that would be the case but Im not certain if
that's the way it works...
You can say what you want, but it is the school's responsibility to hire a
coach that knows the rules, hire an AD that checks up on it, and hire people
that look out for the kid's best interest.You cannot continue
the "what about the kids" argument every time a rule is broken. If you
are angry that your kid was affected by the bad choices of adults, then get new
adults in charge. The UHSAA rules are explicitly stated, yeah the
coach is stepping up and taking the blame. If he really wants to accept
responsibility because he is worried about punishing the kids, he can resign and
let someone else come do the job that follows the rules and looks out for the
kids.I am tired of these constant rules violations by coaches/adults
at schools, then whining that the kids are affected. Hire adults that do things
the right way!
Prep Fan 89:There is a volleyball coach that made this mistake early
on her career. She took responsibility but the administration of the school was
forgiving. Their reward was several state championships. Other
coaches have made mistakes in this area from time to time but again patience,
understanding and forgiving hearts by administrators and others were rewarded
with future success.Again, I'm not out to deny justice, I would
just delay not to take it out on the athletes of this particular team whose main
lesson they might learn is that adults are stupid and lack compassion and common
sense. Instead, I again suggest that a strong message can be sent by denying
Lehi several pre-season games next year. The difference here is that the
players, parents, and coaches know the penalties going in.Finally,
it seems like the UHSAA wheel of justice has no common sense. East and Timpview,
whose actions were more egregious, were allowed to play on in the football
playoffs. Indeed, let's show compassion and common sense and I would say
even consistency in punishment.
shadow: UHSAA rules say teams can play 22 games, but multiple games played in
one day in tournaments count differently. Lehi will exceed the limit by 2
games. Their coach should have known the limit and someone above him should
have caught the mistake. The rule exists so players don't miss an
excessive amount of class time.That said, I agree with eagle. It
was a simple, honest mistake that never gave Lehi a competitive advantage. Have
them forfeit 2 region games next season. It's ridiculous how these types
of mistakes lead to a witch hunt while teams that have been punished multiple
times for recruiting and playing ineligible players continue on to state
What about Taylorsville then they played at Bishop Gorman Tournament for 4
straight days they will be over by 3 games and should forfeit their last 3
games, Cottonwood is in the same situation having to forfeit their last 2.
Here's what the UHSAA Handbook says about the number of baseball games a
team is allowed to play:"Baseball: 22 games for 4A & 5A, 20
games for 1A, 2A & 3A. Each game played counts as one game.Schools may
exercise one of the following options during the season: play one (1)
multi-gametournament and count it as two (2) games (up to a maximum of
four games, if the tournamentexceeds four games, any additional games
would count “one for one” against contest limitations);and
play one (1) non-region double header on a non-school day for both schools and
countit as one (1) game OR they can play two (2) non-region double headers
on non-school days andcount each double header as one (1) game."I haven't looked at Taylorsville's schedule but I'm
guessing they took advantage of the "multi-game tournament" rule and
they probably played a non-region doubleheader on a non-school day. Those rules
allow teams to play more than 22 games. Maybe they asked for a waiver before
the season started to play more than 22. I don't know.