Published: Thursday, May 1 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT
While I agree with you, Don, that Mike Lee isn't a "patriot"; I
disagree about the next sentence. We don't need people who represent
"the majority of Utahns", we need to elect people who will represent ALL
@Don C. CunninghamAgreed. The problem, of course, is that the far
right extremists who control the political machine in Utah wouldn't let
that happen. Hopefully doing away with their "lock" on polical power
that the far right held because of their control of the caucus system will help
get true conservatives (i.e., moderate, mainstream Republicans and Democrats)
into office and do away with the stranglehold on power that the far right
The letter is wrong on many counts. Every Senator has taken an oath to protect
and defend the Constitution. The Constitution requires that Congress limit
itself to do ONLY those things enumerated in that Contract. No Senator can
propose or vote to accept any legislation that violates the limits placed upon
the Federal Government by the Constitution. Too many people think
that the people can demand services from the Federal Government that lie outside
the authority of the Federal Government. The Constitution protects America from
those people. The President shut down the government. He and he
alone executed the order to shut down the parks, even though the parks were
fully funded. He and he alone executed the order to shut down the FAA, even
though the FAA was fully funded. He and he alone executed the order to shut
down WIC, even though WIC was fully funded.Mike Lee and a few other
Senators have sufficient respect for their oath and for the Constitution to not
be bullied by the President or by people who demand that the Constitution be
"We have people like Mike Lee who shut down the government"Mike Lee didn't shut the government down. Senator Harry Obama Reid shut
down the government when he refused to take up the budget bill in the Senate
which was passed by the House. Remember, according to the US Constitution, all
funding bills are to originate in the House of Representatives... which it did.
And the Senate is to take up the bill and either accept it or reject it... and
it didn't.And Utah does have someone who represents the
majority. How do you think Lee got elected if not by a vote of the majority?
You who think you are moderate, ie liberals/socialists, have plenty of
representation in Washington. They may not come from Utah, but you have your
'guys'. It is us conservatives who are under represented
in Washington. May God bless Mike Lee. He is not perfect, but he
does the best he can, and he is making the conservative voice be heard. Without
him, the socialist agenda would move forward unchecked until we become Greece.
We need more people like Mike Lee who understand that government needs to be
What happened to accountability for failure. He and his mentor Senator Cruz
should have resigned.
Don,Nice letter. problem is... you demonstrate the exact problem you
lament.You conveniently ignore that the majority of UTAHNS (the only
people who can vote for Mike Lee, and the only people he commits to represent in
Washington)... VOTED FOR MIKE LEE...===You said, "We
(the voters) need to get rid of these kind of thinkers and elect GOOD people who
will represent the MAJORITY of the people of Utah....Your sentence
is full of judgmental false presumptions:Presumption #1 - Mike Lee is not
a "good" person.Presumption #2 - That the majority didn't
vote for him.Presumption #3 - That he doesn't represent the
"Majority" in Utah.-I think the majority of Utahns DID vote
for Mike Lee... and they probably will again. I mean we DID have an election,
and they counted the votes... and the majority voted for him... did I miss
something?-He is GOOD person.-He does represent the Utah
"MAJORITY". ===Just because YOU... and the
vocal Democrat minority disagree with him... doesn't mean the
"Majority" of Utahns dislike him (false presumption).Assuming whatever YOU want... is what the "Majority" wants... despite
losing the election... is bogus logic...
I agree with Don. We have not been represented by Mike Lee very well. Moderate
Utahns are not having their voices heard. His no compromising attitude on
ObamaCare is what helped shut down the government at the cost of the Utah
economy. As a state delegate, I was amazed at the standing ovation Lee got at
the convention last week. With delegates like that, we will be stuck with Mike
Lee for a long time. Time for me to drop the Republican Party. I am now an
Independent. I'll support any candidate who really understands the
I, for one, support Mike Lee and look forward to working to keep him in office
for another term.
Don apparently has not paid attention to what really caused the government
shutdown. There were several alternative budgetary bills presented in congress
by the Republican legislators but Harry Reid and the Democratic administration
refused to even bring them up for consideration. They preferred to
shut down the government and blame it on congress people like Senators Lee and
Paul. Regretably, many people like you failed to see the truth.
I agree with Mr. Nohavec about leaders in office in office not doing what the
majority of Americans want done. It was the dems, not the GOP that forced
Obamacare on us when the majority opposed it.We have people like
harry reid and BO who shut down the government (the house passed legislation to
keep it open, harry wouldn’t allow a vote) and cost the economy billions
of dollars, and they call themselves leaders? I think they are just the
opposite! We (the voters) need to get rid of these kind of game-players and
elect good people.Ranch,You mean how Matheson
“represented” me even though I disagreed with most of what he
did?One vote,BO was re-elected – yeah, where IS the
accountability for failure? a masterful, deceptive, divisive campaign and a
complacent lap-dog media remove any accountability for failure.
Mike Richards and WRZ are both wrong on almost every count. Mike Lee and Ted
Cruz did shut down the government. It had nothing to do with our President, nor
Harry Reid. These falsehoods have been firmly disproved. Mike Lee cost this
state millions. They did not stand up for any constitutional principles or
values. They betrayed Americans, and continue to do so. Every time they are
asked what they have done to better Americans, they have NO answers! None.
Then they go about saying the same things bad mouthing everything. CNN asked
Cruz what his solutions would be. It stopped him in his tracks! he had no
answer. He has no plan. They are not patriots and just because the
"majority" voted them in doesn't make them right. Oh
and thanks to his party poor people are yet again betrayed by the minimum wage
This letter writer is absolutely correct and expresses what most educated
Americans are thinking about now in regards to these right wing extremists.
Maybe they are good people, maybe even great people. But as a wise neighbor
told me once. "Sometimes great people don't make great neighbors"
Please be honest, all you Mike Lee worshipers. The Republican budget proposals
(engineered by Lee, Cruz, and their House counterparts) sought to defund (and
thereby cause a de facto repeal of) the Affordable Care Act. They declined to
pursue the correct legislative process to directly repeal the ACA, because they
knew they didn't have enough votes to do it the right way. It would have
been a total end-run around the Constitution. And Mike "Short-Sale" Lee
claims to be such a protector of the Constitution. Ha.
The Federal Government has three branches, the Legislative, the Executive and
the Judicial.Only the Legislature can legislate. Only
the Executive can execute the laws passed by the Legislature.Only
the Judicial can rule on whether a law passed by the Legislature and signed by
the President is legal.ONLY the President can shut down the
government. The branch of government of which he is a member is the only branch
that can shut down the government. The Senate does not have that authority.
The Court does not have that authority.59% of the people told
Congress to NOT pass ObamaCare. 59% of the people told Obama to NOT sign
ObamaCare. The Democrats in Congress refused to listen to the people. The
President refused to listen to the people. Now, Obama refuses to execute
ObamaCare. He has delegated himself the authority to legislate new law. Mike Lee did his duty as a Senator. He represents the State of Utah,
having been elected by a majority of Utahns. He is doing his job.Read the Constitution. You might be amazed at how clear things become if you
stop making up your own constitution.
It's funny that all those people who thump their chests about
"defending the Constitution" had no problem with Cruz, Lee, and the like
trying to do an end run around the legislative process. Want to
repeal the ACA? Fine. Draw up a bill, get the votes in Congress, and have a
president who's willing to sign it. The Tea Partiers couldn't do
this, so they threw a tantrum and tried to bully their way in instead. Thankfully, they failed.
IF Don is reading the comments to his letter....Please show us your
evidence that...1. He's not a "good" person2. The
majority of "we the people" in Utah... didn't vote for him.3.
He doesn't represent the "majority" in Utah.If you can
do that and support your assertions in your letter... I'd be surprised.===@RanchRE: "We don't need people who
represent "the majority of Utahns", we need to elect people who will
represent ALL Utahns".That's just a ridiculous
assumption... that ANY person could faithfully represent ALL Uathns'
views.Just look at these pages.... How could ANYBODY correctly
represent EVERY Utahn... that's just a ridiculous expectation...Do you have the same expectation of Obama and Democrats in Washington... that
they represent ALL Americans (not their agenda)?===@Utefan60,Re: "just because the "majority" voted them in
doesn't make them right"...Could you please re-post that...
and address it to Obama and Democrats...?===I hope
Democrats (OR Republicans) don't think they represent EVERYBODY... IF Democrats think the majority of Utahns are with them... check the
score board... Lee won...Dough... now I sound like an Obama fan...
The ONLY ones who think that Mike Lee et. al. shut down the government are the
"low information voters" who only get their news from the lamestream
media and the Obama cheerleaders who think this Pres. can do no wrong.I wonder what the liberals will do when THEY are faced with an executive
branch who, not only don't obey the law, but claim "5th amendment
privilage" - and the President backs them up on their lawlessless - and
that same Pres. controls the Senate eliminating the possibility of
impeachment?Remember libs: what goes around comes around!
Bill in af,harry's no compromise stand on Obamacare shut down the
government. funny, because he used every udnerhanded, skullduggerish compromise
he had to in order to get it passed.Curmudgeon,thank you for
your support in the true assertion that harry was responsible for shutting down
the government. Good to see a liberal admit the house passed bills that would
have kept the government open but harry refused a vote. most liberals will not
even admit such bills were passed. You evidently did not like the content of
those bills, but thank you for admitting they were there for harry to ignore and
cause a government shutdown.utefan60, just because you call
something a falsehood does not make it so. Soundly disproved? by whom? the
DNC? their lapdog media? rachel madcow?"They are not patriots
and just because the "majority" voted them in doesn't make them
right." sounds like harry and BO
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