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Published: Wednesday, April 30 2014 8:55 p.m. MDT

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GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Oh good! More mindless blather from Mike Lee, and it’s the kind of nonsense “Conservatives” love to hear.

Let’s see now. Mike Lee found a welcoming audience of fellow Koch Brothers employees at the Heritage Foundation, a pretend “Think Tank” funded by the Kochs. No surprise there.

And what did he say? Corporate Welfare and Crony Capitalism, oh yeah, there we go, two more buzz words with impact, Koch-brothers approved no doubt.

Crony Capitalism is bad huh? What would be an example of that? How about the 1.3 billion FEDERAL dollars that went to the Salt Lake City Olympic games in 2002? The LA games a few years earlier received a fraction of that amount. Well, somebody in Utah definitely has connections in high places. But that’s bad, right?

And then there’s “Corporate Welfare?” That term was appropriated from the Dems. The Kochs must have done a study and found that term plays well. What Corporate Welfare are the Kochs upset about anyway? . . . subsidies to Utah farmers?

I guess we will find out what the Koch Brothers really mean by that in future Mike Lee speeches.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

Lee is telling us what we have suspected all along; the lobbyists on K Street are writing the legislation and the campaigns are sponsored by big money. This system quickly corrupts even the most ethical new congressmen.
To make matters worse committee membership isn't decided by talent, background or geography. It is based on how much money you can raise for the party.
No doubt the system will eat Lee alive for telling the truth. GaryO has already begun.

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

Lee's hypocracy is boundless. He panders to the practitioners of crony capitalism and now criticizes them. He doesn't care what's good for the United States, Utah,or the people. He only cares about what's good for Mike Lee. I wish there were some way to impeach him. We deserve better.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

"Crony capitalism" is the republican's strongest platform. It's what they're all about.

Esquire
Springville, UT

Lee could start in his own backyard. He doesn't have to look far at all. While I agree in concept, I have no expectation that he will make this a bipartisan cause. When I read this article earlier today, I thought, wow, this is could be good. But as I thing about it more, I find it sad that his argument on crony capitalism is likely a cynical partisan endeavor. Will he support the overturn of Citizens United and similar cases that have turned the mega-rich loose on us? Will he support efforts to take away tax giveaways to profitable corporations and Wall Street millionaires? Will he condemn the very people who have funded him? Will he team with Sen. Bernie Sanders in his efforts to reverse the appalling trend of the disparity between the rich and the rest of us? Will he become a Teddy Roosevelt style trust-buster, or just another tool of the wealthy as they manipulate the American people into total and complete submission and fealty? Alas, I look for more than rhetoric, and doubt it will ever come.

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ Say No to BO, here is an issue that most of us agree on. GaryO is not attacking Lee for telling the truth. He is condemning the hypocrisy. Rather than condemn GaryO, join us, all from different perspectives, in calling on Lee to not play the hypocrite, but to actually work for real reform. We all agree with what you say about Congress and K Street. Please don't make reform a partisan issue by knee-jerk reactions to criticism and skepticism about Lee, who has been the beneficiary of crony capitalism. It's really up to Lee to convince us that his words have meaning and he will truly act to overcome crony capitalism. Forgive us if we need to be convinced of his sincerity.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey Say No –

“ . . . legislation and the campaigns are sponsored by big money . . . “

No kidding, the Koch Brothers OWN the Tea Party.

“GaryO has already begun.” Really? I’m the first person to ever identify Mike Lee as the willing dupe of Plutocrats he really is? That doesn’t say much for journalism in America, does it?

Ernest T Bass –

“Crony capitalism is the republican's strongest platform. It's what they're all about. “

Exactly! The Republicans are its biggest practitioners.

And you expect us to believe the Republicans are going to destroy their own power base?! It ain’t gonna happen.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Not worried about the system, but each guy that works the system.

BrentBot
Salt Lake City, UT

We could use 51 Mike Lee's in the Senate. Then Freedom would be restored in the United States.

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ BrentBot, how? Define what you think is the problem, a proposed solution, how to get it passed even with 51 Mike Lees, and then how to get it passed in the House. If Lee is right that big time money and lobbyists control, then tell us how to fix it. Expressing your love for Mike Lee is not really very helpful in getting to a solution. Where is the action beyond a speech or two? I'm serious. I'm beyond weary of talk and no action by Congress.

stevo123
slc, ut

Mike Lee is the pure definition of crony capitalism. Just follow the money.

Fitness Freak
Salt Lake City, UT

I support Mike Lee's efforts 110%.

Liberals complain loud and hard CONSTANTLY about the big money in D.C. controlling everything. Here's a guy who at least TRIES to do something about the "pay for play" attitude and, yet again, the libs. can find something to cry about.

Based on a few of the comments here; I'm guessing that the liberals LIKE crony capitalism?

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ Fitness Freak, other than a speech, what is Lee actually doing about it?

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

@Fitness Freak 9:25 a.m. May 1, 2014
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Liberals complain loud and hard CONSTANTLY about the big money in D.C. controlling everything. Here's a guy who at least TRIES to do something about the "pay for play" attitude and, yet again, the libs. can find something to cry about.

Based on a few of the comments here; I'm guessing that the liberals LIKE crony capitalism?

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I think you're mis-reading the comments. They aren't in any way praising or supporting+ crony capitalism. They are commenting on the fact that Lee says one thing and does something 180 degrees opposite to his words. His actions show that he is not "a guy who at least TRIES to do something about the "pay for play" attitude." By his actions, he is supporting, not contesting and seeking to eliminate, crony capitalism.

As the old saying goes, actions speak louder than words. Lee's actions show that his words are not true and accurate depicters of what he supports.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

Biting the hand that feeds you...

Believe what I say, not what I do...

That which has enabled Mike Lee to do what he has done, is doing, and will continue to do...

screams so loudly...

It's difficult to believe what he says.

RedShirtCalTech
Pasedena, CA

I wish they wouldn't use the term "crony capitalism". That is just a PC word used to hide what is really going on. The proper term is Fascism. The businesses are allowing the government to control them so that the government will use its power to destroy their business rivals.

To those of you that say that Mike Lee is a hypocrite, explain yourselves. You are making accusations but provide no verifiable facts to back up your statements. I might as well be saying that Obama wants to put your kids on plantations.

RedShirtCalTech
Pasedena, CA

To "OtisBDriftwood" that is not crony capitalism. That is fundraising. Crony capitalism is where government offices or power is used to promote or help one business over another. Just because a fundraiser is held that is expensive to get into does not mean that Lee used it as a way of using his public office to benefit one business over another.

Using your definition, that would mean that Obama is engaged in crony capitalism too. Are you really ready to say that Obama is a crony capitalist?

Jimmytheliberal
Salt Lake City, UT

@Red Shirt...Simply remove the blinders. Think for yourself and attempt not to allow our President's race effect your view. (That's what educated individuals would call racism). You know as is the ignorant statement you made in your post referencing plantations. A simplistic Google search reveals some startling facts regarding your buddy and soon to be ex Senator Mike Lee.

RedShirtCalTech
Pasedena, CA

To "Jimmytheliberal" wow, you threw in the race card out rather quickly. Again, if Mike Lee is engaging in crony capitalism as it is properly defined, then prove it. Where has Mike Lee used his position in Washington to benefit businesses by giving them money or help beyond their competitors? Give me a verifiable source.

Also, if what Mike Lee has is crony capitalism, then read about Obama being "caught" in Hollywood at a high priced fundraiser. See "Obama Is Hollywood's Man Once Again, But What Will Renewed Celeb Enthusiasm Cost Him?" in the Huffington Post.

To "OtisBDriftwood" where is the hypocrisy? Lee is doing nothing different than what Obama has done.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

where's the evidence of Mike's hypocrisy? Tell's the truth and look what happens, as usual! Mike Lee was given a standing ovation, the only one, at the Republican convention. These are smart people (just like me)! I am as close to a libertarian as one can be and still be called a Republican at the convention. Mike Lee is the Jefferson Smith of our day! I wish we had 99 more just like him. It would force all you addicted to government programs to start thinking for yourselves!

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