KUSports.com, however, reporting that Heaps is still on the roster and attended a team meeting Tuesday
The more I think about it, he may come back to BYU if as I hear he is graduating
and will be available immediately. With Ammon Olsen gone to So. Utah, the
Cougars don't have a strong backup. Heaps knows the school, and
might get significant playing time if Taysom gets injured (and with that
run-fast-run-hard offense, and his 15-20 runs a game, I'm not sure Hill
will survive another season unscathed). They could let him start against the
1-AA school and give him a decent amount of 4th quarter action.We'll see, but it's not as crazy as I initially thought.
I'd be very surprised if he were to transfer to a third Division-1 school.
From the new school's view, there is no reason to believe that after not
succeeding at two schools that he suddenly "figured it out" and will be
a star. Other schools will likely look at him as little more than depth at
quarterback.My guess is he heads to a prestigious 1-AA school that
can provide a "similar" facilities and fan base (a game at No. Iowa or
Montana feels like a D-1 game). Montana St. and No. Colorado have already shown
some interest. I wish him well.
Why do we CARE!?!??!?!
I was actually very hopeful about Heaps when he first came to BYU. I know
nothing of him other than what I witnessed of him on the field. I later decided
he didn't have what it takes and welcomed his departure. All
you need to know about Heaps's performance can be summed up by watching the
mis-timed snap against Utah. You can find it on Youtube set to the music Yakety
Sax. So the snap itself is likely a center mistake, Heaps picks the ball up, and
then as he tries to pass, drops the ball into the end zone. Instead of getting
on the ball or kicking it out of the end zone, he dives over the top of it. The
only thing that came to mind when I saw it happen was that he was spooked of
getting drilled in the pile that was coming. Sooner give up s touchdown than
risk getting hit. The second factor that shifted me to being
pessimistic about him was the frequency in which he got in receivers' faces
after plays with balls that were poorly thrown. Failure to accept
accountability seldom leads to strong leadership. Whiny and entitled.
@ I Bleed BlueLight up Utah like he did in 2011? Ten
points, seven turnovers, and Utah posting something like 54 points? Yeah, I
hope he goes to Fresno too.
Jake Heaps gonna do what jake Heaps wanna do.
Ronald UharrietHeaps was given every opportunity to succeed at BYU
and failed miserably. It was up to him to produce on the field when he was given
the chance. Compare what Jake had to do to become BYU's starting
quarterback with what Nielson, Wilson, McMahon, Young, Bosco, and even Detmer
had to do.
With all the ethusiasm and talent, that Heaps had when he came to the Y, I feel
that it is very sad that we squelshed that enthusiasm and talent, instead of
capitalizing upon it. Heaps is now damaged goods. I heart cries out for him.
@Floyd JohnsonMahe transferred to Dixie which was still a JC at the
time then back to BYU.
Isn't Weber State still looking for a QB? I'm not sure SUU would be a
good fit as they just had Olsen transfer there from BYU. Not sure if Jay Hill
could contact Heaps or if Heaps would have to initiate, but it might be a win,
win for both parties.
If I were Heaps, I would only transfer if the prospective school had a better
academic record than the one is currently enrolled in. It's a tough pill
to swallow, but he's not going to the NFL and I wish he would see that.
Nice posts East Coast Coug Heaps...
A light bulb just went on. I realized BYU has an opening for a backup
quarterback, and I am wondering if an athlete has ever transferred back to his
original school in this type of situation. Reno Mahe transferred back from SUU,
but that was a different scenario. I think that he should do it just so we can
tell the story for the next 30 years.
Huge disappointment and he must have a Deseret News relative because my first
comment was denied when all I nicely alluded to was his last name
Let's not all forget that Heaps was grossly mismanaged at BYU by Bronco and
Doman. Being mismanaged by College coaches at Heaps' young age, did him in!
BYU was not the promised land that Heaps thought it was. Bronco had an undying
love affair with Riley Nelson, and Doman wanted Heaps to play. They were
constantly battling about the offense, when Bronco should have stayed out of
Doman's business. We all remember how productive Heaps was at the
conclusion of his freshman year, and then everything fell apart. BYU parted ways
with Anae due to the fact that Anae and Reynolds couldn't get along, and so
went Heaps career at BYU. Doman was to young and inexperienced to stand up to
Bronco and thus Riley became the overwhelming favorite at BYU. Heaps was great
coming out of high school. I blame the coaching staff at BYU for destroying his
confidence, and at that age in big time D1 football, it's hard to regain.
Kansas was never a good fit for Heaps. I just hope Heaps can play somewhere and
finish out successful. Sad to have seen this happen. Reason BYU is always
Transferring? I missed the press conference. Where is Jake going to win a
national title now?
Amongst all the changes surrounding Jake, one thing remains constant: Jake. The
young gun just may not be as good as advertised. His 49% completion rate last
season speaks volumes as he struggled with accuracy at BYU too. Dropping below
50% in Charlie Weiss passing offense is brutal. Should have stayed at BYU.
Would have been better to be a backup in Provo than Kansas, or Eastern Montana
Community College, or wherever else he thinks he can get playing time. Good
When will Jake and his family accept the fact he's not that good?
Agree with Eastcoast Coug.We shouldn't be so judgmental.You can't blame the kid for wanting to play. If he can find a starting
job at an FCS school, then I say go for it. He would probably do well at a
school like Weber State.I am not sure about the NCAA rules, but if he has
graduated, can't he go to an FBS school straight away, just like Carlino
did?Kansas was not a good place for him as a drop-back passer,
because frankly their O-line stinks.If he can find the right program with
a terrific O-line whose offensive scheme is conducive to a drop-back passer,
then perhaps he could showcase his talent. Fresno State comes to mind, but I
imagine they're pretty set at QB position, as well as just about any other
FBS D1 school.
I do not see where he would fit at USU. Chuckie Keeton is our man, maybe if our
3rd string QB goes down.
It could very well be that he will receive his degree before next season. This
is a current loop hole allowed by the NCAA. He would then be eligible to play
Lots of Big Sky Conference schools where he could land.
The most logical choice would be a school that he's familiar with and one
that has had constant quarterback issues since 2008; and even that quarterback
wasn't good enough to make an NFL roster.
If the player has already graduated, he can go to another division one school,
enroll in a graduate program, and play immediately. That may be what he is
looking at. He could probably do well at a school in a mid-major conference that
is playing a schedule of lesser competition. The most logical choices would be
the Houston Cougars, Virginia Cavaliers, Utah State Aggies, Nevada Wolfpack,
UNLV Rebels, or perhaps the Savannah State Tigers.
Advice to both Heaps and Carlino:1. You can't run away from
your shortcomings. Before looking at everyone and everything else around you,
look at yourself in a mirror.2. Start to focus on another career
outside of your chosen sport. You simply aren't good enough to excel
consistently at the college level let alone professionally.3. Good
I feel bad for the kid. Not everyone gets to have all their ups and downs
commented on by the masses. I am sure he understands his dreams of playing at
the next level are on life support with a hand reaching to yank the plug. He
may just want to end his playing career.... playing.For 98 percent
of all players, he is facing the realization that most at some point must
realize, that the end of his football days are drawing near. Hopefully he can
do so without too many people who haven't made it as far as he has making
complete fools of themselves by saying something really stupid...
So the kid celebrated his signing with his HS buddies. Big deal. What proof do
ANY OF YOU have that he is this ego-centric maniac that so many have painted him
to be??I don't really see much of any difference between Jake
and ANY of us or our kids today. Just that for a while he had a stage to do it
on and some of us think we know him as a result. Calm down, people.
Get on with your own self-centered lives. If any of you is without sin in this
department, cast the first stone...
A cautionary tale of what the hype machine can do to an athlete. Let this be a
lesson that having a private QB coach from age 12, putting up gaudy HS numbers
vs. KINGCO (suburban Seattle)competition, and hiring a PR firm to announce your
commitment to the Y at a sports bar, doth not guarantee success, fame, or NFL
@ flatlander:Your bias is once again on display. Let's get it
straight. The same thing happened to Jake at Kansas State as it did at BYU. He
started for awhile and then lost his starting position after his productivity
dropped off. Believe it not, that happens quite a lot in both the college
ranks as well as in the NFL. Trying to twist that into some sort of negative
BYU thing simply demonstrates ignorance.
What I don't get is why he didn't graduate after having a year where
he had to sit out. If he graduated he could go anywhere in the FBS to pursue a
graduate degree as long as he found one at the new school that wasn't being
offered at the old one. This seems like a bigger failure than not making it at
Kansas.It seems to me that Heaps just doesn't like the
physicality of College football. I also doubt he will go to SUU, that would be
poor form for them to accept Heaps after bringing in Olson.
He showed a lot of promise until that game on 9/17/11. After that his coaches
and team mates never looked at him the same.
@Yankees24,Except for the fact that Brent Casteel was a great
I had left the simple comment that Jake Heaps is a flake, denied by DN. What
that was meant to imply, deservedly, was that in transferring again, in yet
another situation where someone else gets thew starting job, he demonstrates he
unreliably cannot be counted on. At BYU, in the case of Riley, you have another
young man who transferred in with high hopes to start, lost the starting gig to
Heaps, but stayed, worked hard and got the starting job back.To
other a future programs who might accept Heaps transferring in, it is a history
that suggests caution as this unreliability (the very definition of flakiness)
translates to on the field play. Jake has shown he gives up and won't do
the hard work. If he had any professional aspirations, most assuredly pro
scouts will have noticed this.In any case, seeing this headline and
story, my first reaction (and I'm sure others felt this way) was --
The usual animus/thoughtful comments daily between BYU/UTAH...The
Sun Also Rises...My thoughts...I too was reeled in by
the headline...Shame on me.Going forward...The DN will also headline...(in large type)FOX News reports Ronald
Reagan Resurrected...Followed by sub-headline...(in smaller type)Heaven.com, however, reporting that Reagan is still on the roster and
attended a team meeting on Tuesday...My point...The
quality of this style of reporting is beneath the standard DN readers
deserve.Shame on the DN.
Good luck to him. He was thrown into the game too early his freshman yr. Back
in the 80's and 90's when BYU was a QB factory, we did not stick
freshman in games as starters. They typically did not start until they were
juniors or seniors. Tough to excel at QB if your line can't block.Debbie Downers, of which there is no short supply here, will say that
Jake is simply horrible. But then again, they're not Division I QB talent,
are they?Good luck, Jake.
Boy this kid just doesn't get it does he!!!!! He just isn't the QB HE
thinks he is. He must have an ego the size of California. "Ok if you
don't play me I will transfer"....boy what a joke!! Go back to high
school and grow up!!
I'm sorry that things don't seem to being turning very well for Jake
in the sports department. I hope he's faring better academically.But, my main takeaway from this tale of a touring college athlete is how much
more like professional sports the college sports scene increasingly seems to be.
Transfers between colleges are just like players being traded in the NFL, NHL
or NBA.I scoffed at the recent ruling concerning college athletes
forming a union. At the whole idea really. But since the reality of college
sports seems more and more to be little more than a prep for professional
sports, including training on moving from one team to another, perhaps things
should inch even closer to reality by allowing the players to unionize and be
paid beyond their scholarships for their role in procuring network sports
revenue and school booster donations.Frankly, I hate that idea and
think the emphasis should be much higher on the first word in the term,
Jake, Jake, Jake. What's the point? Your potential as a pro football player
is roughly the same as mine. Just suck it up at Kansas, be a man, accept that
you're a backup and be ready if you're pressed into action. Is the guy
seriously still thinking he has big-time potential if only he can find the right
fit? We really don't know anything about his work ethic, character, or
family (low blow, dude) but we do know he is a below-average D1 quarterback.
Jake, meet reality. Reality, Jake.To all the usual chucklehead
anti-BYU posters, answer me this: If Heaps and Apo had signed with Utah out of
high school, are you telling me you wouldn't have been crowing about it? Or
did the Utes just not want them? EVERYONE wanted Heaps, and apparently Texas
thought Apo was pretty good. Are you really saying Bronco mismanaged both of
them so badly they went from blue-chip recruits to quivering masses of
mediocrity? Or did EVERYONE just overestimate them from the beginning. Be
honest, if that's possible.
Hey, maybe he'll transfer to Utah, they have ongoing QB issues and no real
starter. Good luck Jake, too bad Ammon Olsen beat you to SUU, looks like that
option is off the table. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go to Utah or
flatlander"Let's see, sets records at BYU but can't
start for last place Kansas in the big 12."Conveniently leaving
out the "freshman" part of the "sets records" Since Freshman
have rarely started at QB at BYU, it's not surprising. Who knows, you might
be able to set some records as a freshman at BYU if you started at QB.
Jake Heaps is still trying to find relevance as a college quarterback. SUU or
Utah State maybe his final home as a backup.
@Uncle Rico"Jake, go back to BYU, they start a RB as a QB"Those who fail to learn from history....Jake left BYU last time
because they decided to start a safety as a QB, why would he want to repeat that
This is waht happens to athletes when they think "it's all about
me".....LOL!!!! Then again there seems to be a recent case of "College
athlete transferitis" in the state of Utah and throughout.
Time to move on.Jake has simply proven how over-rated "star"
ratings can be.4- and 5-star recruits sometimes fail miserably, and
walk-ons sometimes turn into all-stars.It's impossible to know
which will be the case for every recruit.There's a big
difference between throwing an accurate ball with little or no pressure against
vanilla high school defenses, and being an effective quarterback with changing
D1 college defenses and blitzing 250-pound linebackers coming at you from all
angles.Jake's biggest problem was he didn't like getting
hit, so most of his throws were rushed, and, he wasn't very good at reading
defenses and exploiting weaknesses.I hope Jake finds a home where he
can at least have a fun experience as a senior. More importantly, I hope he
finishes his college degree, because it's looking very doubtful that
he'll have a career in the NFL.
@FT Really? Heaps' FAMILY taught him to be a quitter? I am just
amazed at your comment. I am really quite fed up with all the judgmental
comments on some of these boards. It's one thing to rib a rival but some of
these comments reveal a very sad state on the part of some people.
Maybe Heaps and Carlino can be roommates?
Over hyped, too stuck on himself, a Dad who kept telling him how good he was.
If this kid got beat out by Riley Nelson, who had a ton of mental toughness but
little else, then you know that he had no work ethic. I feel bad for Jake that
he wasn't patient. He should have red shirted his freshman year or gone on
a mission. Anyone who had that level of arrogance to have a press conference
about his going to the Y was way over the top. I feel bad for Jake but
he's a product of his own making. If he transfers to SUU (doubtful) Ammon
Olsen will beat him out.
Another example of what an inexact science/art college recruiting is. Every D1
school has dozens of examples where a "can't miss recruit"
doesn't succeed at the next level. There is a lot of pressure and
expectations on these kids and at the end of the day it takes a combination of
natural talent, effective coaching and most of all hard work to succeed.
Hopefully Heaps will earn his degree and be successful in his chosen career.
Boise or Fresno as a graduate student might be a possibility if he wants to stay
in the FBS, or he could drop a level and go many different places. Either way
he probably has a very different future than he had hoped for.
I'm not sure where I heard it, but I seem to recall someone at BYU saying
that he didn't hit the weight room like other players. If, true, perhaps
he never got hungry enough to play to get to the weight room and other
conditioning applications. I wish Jake all the best. I doubt we'll see
him in the NFL. But if his work ethic is questionable at the college level,
then high school coaching may be his best career option. Perhaps he can help
shape other young men into fine quarterbacks. By his experience, he can teach
what it takes to make it at the college level; which are lots of hard work and
constant working on your game. Good fortunes Jake, wherever you end up.
Maybe Heaps put all his eggs in one basket. NFL or bust.
So sad to see how things are turning out for this kid's football career.
It's got to be so terribly devastating to him and his family, and I feel
for them. Expectations can be so cruel when things don't shape out as
hyped. Hope he can finally find a better fit for his talents and go out with a
bang in his last year as a college player. His best bet now is to think about
coaching rather than as a professional player. Then again, if he goes to a
school like Boise and tears it up then he might still be coming out smelling
like a rose.Good luck Mr. Heaps! Keep your chin up even if things
don't work out. Football is not the only game in life.
Sometimes being great in high school just doesn't work out in college. He
was just so sure he was NFL material that he couldn't take redshirting at
BYU and waiting his turn. Too bad. I hope he has grown up a little bit and
has a chance to go forward with his life now.
High school stud to Division I dud. He had his opportunities. Not everyone can
make it to the NFL so study hard Jake and join the rest of us.
He should have stayed instate from high school. He would have been a great
Let's see, sets records at BYU but can't start for last place Kansas
in the big 12.
I don't know Heaps well and suspect none of you do as well. I wonder how
many of the Heaps haters here have found linear (constant, upward moving)
success in their lives. Life and sports have ways of throwing something
different at us than we expect. I hope he finds what he's looking for and
more and more of it outside football.
At some point you have to accept that character supersedes talent. However the
kid's talent never seemed to measure up against the competition either.
Hope things work out for Heaps -- I don't think he has enough fire in his
belly to make a successful Quarterback.
Every time I see his name in the news it renews in me the fervent desire that
the Y coaching staffs have learned lessons about promising some kid (or his dad)
anything other than hard work and a chance for a spot. Steer clear of the
entitled ones, no matter how many stars.
Hey why not go to Hawaii at this point, just purely for location reasons,
What a nightmare for this kid. Gosh I hope he graduates with some
degree or maybe just goes into acting. Maybe he could get a part in the next
Napoleon Dynamite sequel as Uncle Rico's son or nephew?I'm
really tired of seeing this kid getting any attention. To see his name in a
headline is rarely good news.
Cval is right, doubt he would transfer to be a 3rd teamer at USU. Probably
should go to Utah and be a part of the QB herd.
Utah, and Weber are currently meeting with him.Jake is graduating.
His family taught him to be a quitter and now he's become quite good at it.
Here is hoping he ends up at Fresno State. It would be epic to see him light up
Jake should finish his degree and become an NFL referee.
BYU recycled the OC...if bring Heaps back...kind of like Ground Hog Day...
I don't understand how he could transfer to Boise or Utah State. He used
his redshirt year already, it seems clear that his only option is to move to a
lower division.I wish Jake the best in all of his future endeavors.
Utah State? He would be 3rd string behind Chuckie Keaton and Darrell
Jake, go back to BYU, they start a RB as a QB
I feel sorry for Jake. A lot of hype and promise coming out of high school that
never seemed to materialize.If the transferring report is indeed
true, then he'd have to transfer to an FCS school to play this fall. Or,
if he's on track to graduate from Kansas this spring (he has been in
college for four years now), he could transfer to an FBS school.
Perhaps Heaps should consider coaching.
Jake got his chance in Kansas but couldn't make it work. Too bad. Feel bad
for him and his mom.
"set several BYU freshman records in 2010, including passing yards,
touchdowns and wins.""Utah State and Boise State are potential
landing spots for Heaps"Good choices. Heaps was a good QB at the MWC
Jake never has been willing to get gritty and do the work necessary to excel in
D-1 football. Lots of talent and natural ability, no work ethic. Classic tale.
Remember when Chris B wasn't the first to comment on a BYU football/sports
related article? Neither do I! Obsessed, LOL
SUU is a draw with Crowton, but look what Crowton did with another LDS blue
chipper in Ben Ohlson. Poor kid, didn't live up to his own
hype. Lost his starting job at BYU to a LB playing QB (older brother to the
great "kicker") because the head coach valued toughness over talent.
Bad situation from the beginning, should have steered clear of Provo, all
together. At least he didn't have to pay for college.
Chris,It's almost as amusing as when Brent Casteel said he was
going to win the Heisman haha
I feel bad for the guy. I hope goes to a school with a good name and gets a
degree that helps him in life after football.
Kansas and Weiss were a serious mistake. How he was managed at BYU was a
mistake. My advice to Jake would be to drop out of football and focus on a
career outside of sports.
Hey Chris B they could have totally won a few national Titles.
Good luck Jake!
Always trying to move on to "greener" pastures
Remember when heaps and Apo and stout held a press conference to say they were
going to byu to win national title?Lol!
Amazing, everybody thought the world of Heaps coming out of High School.What a complete bust.