@Pops:My "translated correctly" comment was sarcasm - a nod
to those who make the choice to justify ignoring that which they don't want
to do. I agree, the teaching of Jesus at the very least implies
voluntary choice. And the words of the Pope in no way disagreed with
that concept. His actions - not living in the Papal palace, investigating and
disciplining high-living priests, spending time in a simple Roman Collar (priest
suit) in soup kitchens - indicate that he does more than pay lip service to the
concept, and expects other Catho... Christians to do the same. I
enjoy the howls of the "religious right" when the Pope challenges them
with something like "inequality is the root of all social evil." These
modern rich young rulers are so quick to list their righteous deeds - voting for
God's candidate, owning the right gun, paying a tithe calculated to the
penny, never letting coffee touch their lips - and yet so offended at a phrase
that seems to closely fit with something a Jewish carpenter might have said.
@StormwalkerI think it was translated correctly.Christ's desire is that we voluntarily follow him. Satan's plan was
to force everyone to follow him. There could hardly be a more fundamental
difference than that.
@the truth: "There is not one scriptural basis for forcibly taking another
property and money. OR using force and coercion in any other way."True. There is, however, this part: “There is still one thing you
lack,” Jesus said. “Sell all you have and give the money to the
poor—it will become treasure for you in heaven—and come, follow
me.” Luke 18:22Probably wasn't translated correctly.As Stephen Colbert noted: "If this is going to be a Christian nation
that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just
as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to
love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just
don't want to do it."
So how does everyone propose we make everyone equal?Christ advocated
teaching morals and correct principles.There is not one scriptural
basis for forcibly taking another property and money. OR using force and
coercion in any other way.
Not a Catholic, not likely to ever be a Catholic, but I do like this guy.
Kinda shows who the real Christian is IMO.@Shaun;The
rich don't need to worry since they're not likely to be able to enter
into heaven anyway (if you take Jesus' words about them into account).
I never would have guessed that quoting from LDS scripture would get a post
denied at the Deseret News, but I guess that is the case:Doctrine
And Covenants 49:2020 But it is not given that one man should
possess that which is above another, wherefore the world lieth in sin.
Shaun: I think conservatives, defending millionaires and billionaires to Christ
might say something like:The monied man or women can suffer as large
a curse in the development of Christlike virtues as can the one who lacks it.
The prior can buy anything with his/her money including pride, vanity,
possessions, and freedom from the responsibility to help his/her fellow man. The
later's lack of money can canker the soul with envy, covetousness,
thievery, and malice. In the end, the very inequality so many
profess to hate, is the difference that allows each and every soul to decide if
they will follow Christ and personify his virtues or if they will reject His
message.We may come to find out, at some point in the future, that
inequality was the fire that refined the soul or left it to dregs.
I wonder how conservatives would defend billionaires and millionaires to Jesus.
I am not necessarily arguing inequality issues in the sense but when you make 20
million a year and you believe in Christian principles how do you defend that to
Jesus?Wouldn't the Christian thing to do is donate 19 million
and live off 1 million? Or is retaining the 19 million the Christian thing to
That definitely was an ambiguous tweet.On the one hand, that's
what the American Revolution was about - equality of opportunity.On
the other hand, some define "equality" as meaning equality of outcome. I
think that was Satan's plan.