You BYU fans can love your independence all the way to irrelevance. Why do Ute
fans love our conference? Because in conference play we play major bowl caliber
teams every week. Our conference also guarantees us access to bowl games every
year we are eligible. Membership in the Pac 12 also gets us better access to
the playoff with enough wins. BYU will be playing in the Miami Beach bowl
against a mid level AAC team even if they go undefeated this year. That is a
fact no Cougar fan can erase no matte how hard they try to talk it up.
@ Uncle Rico:BYU fans are not in any kind of denial whatsoever. What
a silly statement to make. Most are totally enjoying the fact that division I
conferences have been approaching BYU for bowl game affiliation months before
the football season even begins. Any way an unbiased observes spins it,
it's a feather in BYU's cap. That's just one of the
rewards of going 8 or 9 years in a row without a losing record and playing each
of those years in post season bowl games. I really wish I could somehow explain
to Utah fans just how great that really feels. But in your case, you'll
just have to keep using your imagination. Keep up that ongoing Ute
quest for an eventual winning season. As you so well put it... "it's
Uteology,"Utah's won as many bowl games in the PAC-12 as
ASU.2008 was 6 years ago.1996 was 18 years ago."Yeah, ASU made it to the Rose Bowl as a member of the PAC-10 having had
to defeat legitimate teams in the PAC-10 and #1 in the nation and 2 time
national champions Nebraska . Utah had to get there by winning against cream
puffs like Wyoming, UNLV, New Mexico, Colorado State, Weber State, and Utah
State. Really tough schedule to get there. Now that Utah is forced to play real
teams, how has that bowl track record gone? ASU had a has-been coach for too
long (ironically enough taken by Utah LOL) and since we've got rid of the
dead weight, We've been on the rise ever since. Utah and ASU trending in
opposite directions. ASU, beating Utah since 1977
@ WACPaddingOurSchedule: Why do some Ute fans take such pride in
demonstrating their obvious lack of college football prowess?What
qualifies this bowl as "a lower tier bowl game" as you put it?ESPN
is obviously happy with their BYU contract. Both make good money. It's
win-win. BTW... It's pretty obvious Utah is not getting any
help from ESPN, or any other group, not even their own conference in arranging
any kind of bowl game year after year. Even if this bowl was a lower tier, which
it's not, it beats the heck out of not going to any bowl game at all. You
and every other Ute fan should fully understand that by now. You truly do, but
pride still won't allow you to admit it. I absolutely guarantee
that Kyle Whittingham and the rest of the Ute football team would've
unanimously jumped at the chance to go to this bowl game the last few years if
given the opportunity. It's a no-brainer. But they weren't. And they
won't again this next season. Obviously, it's your frustration
creating such silly comments based on jealousy. So you're forgiven.
@ Tomahawk Red:You ask why would any Ute fan care about BYU signing
up for another mediocre bowl? You need to ask Chris B. He's was once
again the very first to comment on this announcement. He obviously cares a great
deal. And so do many other Ute fans who usually make up at least half of the
first page of comments to most BYU articles. I suspect it has a lot to do with
jealousy since newer Ute fans still don't know what it's like to have
their team participate in any bowl game at any level... great or mediocre. In fact, you yourself very obviously care since you took the time and
effort to comment to this BYU announcement several different times. So there you
go. You answered your own question.
Why must so many people get caught up in Ute problems? And why are Utah fans
more worried about BYU than their own team? They have enough to worry about--
even if some fans don't realize it. Good luck to the Utes.As a BYU
fan, I'm less than thrilled with this bowl. I suppose you have to get
something lined up and going without a bowl contract until mid-season may be
more risky than they'd like. We have to trust all possibilities were
exhausted but it's hard to see how we couldn't have done a little
better with some sort of tiered alliances. Have 10+ wins= Bowl X, 8-10 wins =
Bowl Y, 6-8 = Miami. Buffalochip on the Trib suggested this idea and I like
it. I'm not sure if bowls or conferences would be willing to be the
back-up plan if BYU gets more or less wins but it sure seems worth trying. This
sets a bad precedent that we're willing to settle for anything and
doesn't set us up to be included in future realignments. Something's
better than nothing but think we could do better. Go Coug's!
@Uteology"Utah's won as many bowl games in the PAC-12 as
ASU.2008 was 6 years ago.1996 was 18 years ago.Keep Questing!"Wow! That's your argument? Comparing
yourself to one of the perennial football doormats of the PAC 10? For your sake
I'll give you credit. utah is not as bad as some of the 128 FBS schools as
far as recent bowl appearances or recent bowl victories against quality
opponents. Any way you spin it though 6 years is a long time - 3 years is too.
Good luck to the utes with their #11 SOS next season. An honest and decent
prediction from me is 4-8 next year. If that happens, 10 years from now the only
thing people will remember is the utes had a bad year at 4-8 (or worse). Few
will remember #11 (preseason) SOS. Hopefully I'm wrong in the 4-8
Bronco - 9-9 versus PAC teamsKyle - 9-18 in the PAC 12 and not trending
well - 4-5, 3-6, 2-7Spin it any way that helps you sleep at night
Uteology, buta team that can't beat decent conference opponents
on the road (football or basketball), has no chance of ever being a conference
contender. After 3 full seasons in the PAC, the Utes haven't won a single
road game against a conference foe with a winning record. In fact, Utah
hasn't won a road game against a PAC team with a winning record in almost
20 years.Don't bother bringing up bowl games. Beating Cal in
San Diego isn't the same as beating Cal in Berkley.Rose Bowl
CougarSunDevilPhoenix, AZ"I'm just surprised that
powerhouse byu and ESPN couldn't get a bowl game against any power
conference?"So am I ChrisB, but it will come. When was the last
bowl game utah went to? When was the last bowl game utah went to against a
'respectable' powerhouse team? 2008 was a LONG time ago. A VERY long
time ago.--------------Utah's won as many bowl
games in the PAC-12 as ASU.2008 was 6 years ago.1996 was
18 years ago.Keep Questing!
CO Ute"When was the last time Utah played a bowl game against a
respectable powerhouse team? Well does Ga Tech or Boise count?"LOL at the inconsistency of Utah fans!Boise State and Georgia Tech
are "respectable powerhouse teams" when Utah plays them in a bowl, but
the same teams are considered "weak" opponents when BYU plays them in
back-to-back regular seasons.
@CougarSunDevil - I'm trying to understand your post about bowl games.
When was the last time Utah played a bowl game against a respectable powerhouse
team? Well does Ga Tech or Boise count? Many Y fans claim they are great teams
when they are on their schedule. If not I guess the U goes back to
Alabama but what does that say about your team? You did beat an unranked UCLA
team in 2007 and lost to an unranked UW team last year. You also beat an
unranked Oklahoma team in 1994. 1993 was a loss to #10 Ohio State. Maybe those
are the 'powerhouse' teams you reference. Still, in looking at your
entire history, I can't see that your team has EVER beat a top 10 team in a
bowl game. Careful about throwing stones!
First, I don't understand the obsession with one's conference. I
cheer for my team not the conference.Second, at what point will Utah
be hoping for an invite to any bowl versus sitting home in December? Is it now?
Or next year? Or the year after?Good for U that U got invited to
the PAC. But after three years, your play has proven that U don't belong.
If U were independent, could U negotiate a bowl invite on your own?P.S. I'm still waiting to read my first Utah "rivalry" comment
in the Denver Post. It's obvious that most of the Utah commenters are
still obsessed with BYU.
These BYU fans must be in denial.BYU was 2-5 against power
conference teams last year. Had they played as many power conference teams as
Utah they would not have made a bowl game. BYU lost to Virginia
(Virginia's only FBS win of the year, yes Virginia was worse than
Colorado). BYU also didn't even play a conference champion or runner
up.Occasionally upsets happen, but BYU claims to be a superior
program to Utah, but when was the last time a college football team lost to an
inferior opponent 4 years in a row?Congrats on playing 3 power
conference teams this year (2 of them are the worst in their conference too,
Virginia and Cal).I'll take a 5 or 6 win season with the big
boys coming to play in our stadium, rather than playing 4 games against AAC
opponents.Congrats on your bowl, but I think you should have waited
out and taken a spot from a conference that didn't fill all of their bowl
spots. At least then you could be playing a 7 win power conference school
instead of Tulsa or Tulane.Keep up your Quest for perfection 6.0
talks, it is entertaining...
I would much rather play in a West Coast bowl game between Christmas and New
Years, than to be relegated to a brand new pre-Christmas, low paying (under
$500,000 per team) "filler" bowl. BYU has spent it's history
"building" bowl games (aka, Fiesta, Holiday, Las Vegas)only to see them
yanked away by the BIG 12 and PAC 12. It's a shame that with the
so-called "partnership" that BYU has with ESPN, they can't get into
one of the larger multi-million dollar plus games. I loved the proximity of the
Las Vegas Bowl and I understand that it now (thanks in part to the sell-outs
generated by BYU) generates $1,000,000 per team. BYU desperately needs to become
a member of a major conference such as the PAC 12 or BIG 12 or risk becoming the
NAVY of the West.
toosmartforyouFarmington, UTTan Man, what did Utah win in 2008 other
than the game? How many people even remember (outside of Salt Lake City) who
they played? In 1984 a champion was crowned that people still remember to this
day. Say what you want, that's a bigger slice of a bigger pie. Period.___________Yet pundit's refer to the Utah win over
Alabama more than any BYU bowl game since. BYU vs Tulsa from a past bowl is just
lighting up the talk shows isn't it? In addition, this seems to be the only
play that the 84' title sham gets any props.
Tan Man, what did Utah win in 2008 other than the game? How many people even
remember (outside of Salt Lake City) who they played? In 1984 a champion was
crowned that people still remember to this day. Say what you want, that's
a bigger slice of a bigger pie. Period.
Funny how Chris B. slams the Big 12 for not being able to find 2 "worthy
teams" to go from 10 to 12 schools in the conference. Remember that the PAC
10 wanted to be the PAC 16 and they invited Colorado, then 5 of the Big 12
teams. The Big 12 told them to go pound salt and the PAC needed one more to
have 12 so they looked around and invited Utah. The Utes were #12 of 12, which
is about where they finish each year. The first year they actually had a
greased schedule to get to the inaugural PAC 12 championship bowl game, all the
stars lined up, and they promptly lost at home with Norm Chow as OC to the worst
road team in America, Colorado.Funny how the PAC 12 expanded by
seeking doormats; WSU, Arizona, and lately Cal have been very happy to have
someone take over the bottom spots. Those in the top echelon of the conference
have fans asking "Why did we take Utah...they bring nothing to the
table."Isn't it interesting that this discussion is even
necessary on an article about BYU? But the Ute partisans are so obsessed with
BYU they can't avoid commenting. Too funny!!
I went to the Citrus Bowl and it was a blast with a big half time
show...something the big bowls have eliminated.Although I hate the
idea of only bowl eligibility to get this bowl against any eligible AAC team
(not TV fun), I love Miami in December and I certainly plan on going!
I really feel that we are starting to see the end of the great athletic years
for BYU. Slowly over the years, the programs have been scaled down with little
view of where the program needs to go. I would say that within the next 10
years, these once great programs will be Div. II level, with an eventual
disolution of the athletic program all together. I hope not, but it has
happened at other church schools and BYU-Provo appears to be headed that
Just keep getting warm weather bowls. That will be the recruiting pitch! Look, I
know that weather in provo ain't like miami, but we get to play there in
Good move BYU. The only numbers that count are the seats in the stadium and the
eyes watching the big screen!
So am I ChrisB, but it will come. When was the last bowl game utah went to? When
was the last bowl game utah went to against a 'respectable' powerhouse
team? 2008 was a LONG time ago. A VERY long time ago.1984 was a lot
longer than that.
Hilarious! BYU fans essentially respond with "Cool, it will be a nice bowl
if we can't get something better." Ute fans essentially
respond with "It's not as good as losing in the PAC-12 and staying
home." We'll take your word for that.
This is a awesome bowl! I cannot believe how prestigious this bowl game is and
the national recognition the teams that are "invited" to play receive.
Cougar fans should be proud and should flaunt this to their lesser peers on the
hill because that is what you learned on Sunday, to be humble and meek. Turning
the other cheek to ignorance is weak and unacceptable, showing pride is what you
need to do in responding to an attack. Rise and Shout Cougars.GO
Can't U just feel the jealousy oozing out of the hill?
I am a Utah man and I live across the green...with jealousy about
BYU's new Miami Beach Bowl contract.
@ Tomahawk RedLogic says that your comment, "I understand that
the thought of anyone getting worked up over anything midmajor BYU does is
satisfying to you, even though it's entirely fictional." is completely
off base as you yourself are among the first 20 people to get worked up enough
to comment on this story. Hypocrist at its finest. Good luck with your
prediction of a loss for BYU in game 1 against UCONN. If anything, week 2
against Texas makes sense. I can also foresee utah starting undefeated. 2-0
before dropping six in a row.
Tomahawk RedNorth Salt Lake, UTWhy would any Utah fan care in
the least about BYU signing yet another terribly poor bowl contract with another
inferior conference?----------------And yet, here you are.
So, are you not a Utah fan or are you saying that this deal is not for a
"terribly poor" bowl contract? You can't have it both ways.
@ Chris B"Interesting that byu couldn't get into the Big 12
or Pac 12 by default."I have it on good sources that BYU would have
preceded utah with an invite to the PAC 12 and Big 12 had they agreed to sunday
play. utah was just the waste water left over after the gold fell out of the
pan.@ Tomahawk RedI'll give no guarantee that the
utes will be left out of the postseason so I agree with you on that. (although
I'm guessing they'll miss out again.) However barring some ddisaster
for BYU, it is as close to a guarantee as one can get in the preseason that BYU
will be at least bowl eligible with the schedule they have. Probably in the
first 8-9 games.
WiscougarfanRiver Falls, WINo wonder the trolls are all worked up
over this. -------------I understand that the thought of
anyone getting worked up over anything midmajor BYU does is satisfying to you,
even though it's entirely fictional.Why would any Utah fan care
in the least about BYU signing yet another terribly poor bowl contract with
another inferior conference?If anyone's getting riled,
it's the blue boys. Relegated to yet another lower tier bowl game once they
lose game number one, which will likely happen in the season's first game.
Challenge - I'm so happy you ute "fans" have been at home the last
few years bowl season.
@Chris BThey're all scared to lose to 'big time' BYU.
toosmartforyouFarmington, UTI'm just not surprised that BYU is
going bowling, yet again, while a local team (from a "power conference")
will be home for the holidays yet again.-----------Wow.
I'm impressed. Would you mind telling us all how exactly you already know
this when the season is still five months away?If ever there was an
incident of pure speculation masquerading as fact, it was yours buddy.
There was a time when BYU had to rely on a conference to negotiate bowl deals
and only one team from the entire conference was contractually guaranteed a bowl
invitation.Now, as an Independent, and with the World Wide Leader as
a partner, BYU has the national clout to negotiate its own bowl deals.Despite the whiny jealousy of our friends up north, this is something that
would be impossible for their regional, conference bottom-feeding program to do.
Very exciting news for BYU! Looks like I'll be making reservations soon.
Although I might want to wait as well. Have a feeling something special is in
store for the Cougars this season...Rise and Shout!
I'm not sure what Utah fans are making fun of? There are some very decent
opponents in the AAC conference. Cincy, UCF, Louisville, and SMU are all solid
programs. The AAC does not have an automatic bid to a "BCS" Bowl game
any longer, so we could very well be slotted against a ranked AAC champion or
the #2 due to the likelihood that they will be left out of the Playoffs as well.
I also just looked over the 2014-2015 Bowl schedule and the Cotton,
Fiesta, and Chik-fil-A bowls are all open to at Large teams, so if BYU does
clean up it's mediocre schedule and finished ranked in the top 12, we may
play in a BCS game after all.
Groan...Maybe I can take a vacation over Christmas and get out of Miami. A word
of warning to the BYU football team and its fans-stay away from the beaches in
Miami, as they are definitely not honor code approved.
Pretty much as good as Orange Bowl.
lol I concede. Yes, Utah earned its invitation by default. But, stop changing
the subject Mr. B. This is a story about the cougars! The cougars are going to
a bowl and the utes don't go bowling anymore.
Go cougars! Can't wait for football to start!
One would think.......1) That if your big time basketball team, from
a big time conference, but lost to a lower tier WCC team, in a step sister type
post season tournament, one would think they would have enough sense to simply
keep their mouth shut, and quit yapping. 2) That if your big time PAC 12
football team, who hasn't gone bowling for a few years, and the near future
isn't looking much brighter either, who's coach is on the hot seat,
and appears to be destined for mediocrity in that national power conference,
well, one would think this would humble them enough to zip it up until things
improved.3) That if a person had enough time on their hands to sit at
their computer all day trolling anything related to BYU, and have this over the
top deep-seeded need to be the first person to post on said sports team, one
would think that this person would some day get a job, and make something of
their life.just a thought!
Not excited about a mediocre bowl with a mediocre Conference. That doesn't
get us much to keep beating small teams. We have to consistently beat good
teams from big conferences to get any recognition. Glad we're going
bowling and I will watch the game, but I was hoping for more.
"I'm just surprised that powerhouse byu and ESPN couldn't get a
bowl game against any power conference?"So am I ChrisB, but it
will come. When was the last bowl game utah went to? When was the last bowl game
utah went to against a 'respectable' powerhouse team? 2008 was a LONG
time ago. A VERY long time ago.
@Pac 12,Interesting that byu couldn't get into the Big 12 or
Pac 12 by default.In fact, the Big 12 would rather be called the Big
12 even though they only have 10 teams and can't find an acceptable 11th or
If Taysom stays healthy, the Cougars will go undefeated.In the event
BYU is not invited to a more prestigious bowl game...In the event
BYU stubs their toe and looses a few games (6 or less)...The
inaugural Miami Beach Bowl is not a bad assignment...With BYU's
ability to travel well fully documented...34,000 seats should easily
be filled.Congratulations to the AD Dept., Coaching and support
staff as well as the players.
Great! Love the location, should be fun to go to the inaugural Beach Bowl!
I'm actually hoping we can't go because we get invited to a better
bowl.Go Cougars and bring on the season!Also hoping Utah
finally gets to a bowl this year, go Utes! Can't leave out USU, go Aggies
and win a bowl again!
I'll take it...and continue to hope for stronger bowl matches in the
future. I love watching the cougars in their annual bowl game.
Inking a deal with the conference formerly called the "Big East" (for
those of you who don't know who the AAC is) is not half bad, considering
the difficulties of scheduling as an independent. BYU will likely go bowling
again this year in a great location against a quality opponent while their rival
stays home for the couch potato bowl once again. No wonder the trolls are all
worked up over this. Go Cougs!
I'm just not surprised that BYU is going bowling, yet again, while a local
team (from a "power conference") will be home for the holidays yet
again. And I'm not surprised that the first few posts are from an anti-BYU
person, as this seems to be an obsession, commenting on all things BYU.
It's perennial.Go COUGARS!!PS: The way to national
recognition isn't through Tucson, Pullman, Boulder or Salt Lake City.
Sorry, it just isn't.
Sweet!! Lets go have a great year, beat the teams that you have scheduled and
hope for the best. Do your part and let the pieces fall where they may. Then
go have fun in beautiful Florida. BYU has set a standard of always going
bowling, no matter the schedule, and it wont end soon. Cant wait for the season
to start!GO Cougs
I don't have to say much - will just refer you all to what was said about
BYU in the article. BYU will definitely be bowl eligible and I look forward to
this bowl game barring an unexpected invite to the playoffs.
I'm just surprised that powerhouse byu and ESPN couldn't get a bowl
game against any power conference?Why wouldn't the pac 12 want
a big time bowl game against big time byu?Why wouldn't the big
12(only 10 teams because no one else is worthy) want a big time bowl game
against big time byu?Why wouldn't the SEC want a big time bowl game
against big time byu?Why wouldn't the Big 10 want a big time bowl
game against big time byu?Why wouldn't the ACC want a big time bowl
game against big time byu?